St. John's Wort Extract

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Septembersun
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   Posted 10/25/2005 11:16 AM (GMT -7)   
I am trying to go the natural healing route because I have had bad side effects from antidepressants. Has St. John's Wort actually worked for anyone here? And if so, about how long did it take to kick in? And how much per day did you take? I started with 300 mg yesterday, but was wondering if that was enough. Thank you. eyes

Rianna
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   Posted 10/25/2005 3:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I have heard of some people trying St. Johns Wort and have had very positive results from it.  I did a lot of research on it, and learned a lot about it.  It is being used now for severe depression from an article I read.  I shied away for years from antidepressants because of bad side effects - they were in the SSRI class family (such as Zoloft, Proxac, Lexapro, etc) and not only did I have really bad side effects, but they also numbed my emotions where I felt I was a zombie.  I then tried SAM-e and was on it for three years and depression free.  It is an Amino acid that is used for lifting mood and it supposed to be very safe and effective.  You can get more info on at at the www SAM-e website.  I took 400mg once a day about 45 minutes before a meal. Now, I am taking Remeron which is a tricyclic class of antidepressants and the only side effect I have had on it, is increased appetite, where I eat a bit more at meals.  Other than that, I have had no side effects and it has worked great.  Maybe the class of drugs were not right for you, and maybe a different class might be a bit better - I would check with your doctor.  They also have the SSNRI's such as Cymbalta, and I think Effexor is another one.

Rianna
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   Posted 10/25/2005 3:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Oops forgot about the standard dose for St. Johns Wort, I read articles that 300mg three times a day is the standard dose.  If you do a google search and type in St. Johns Wort, you can see some very good research articles on it and the standard dose and Hyperacin count, which is believe is 0.3 percent.  Make sure you get a good quality, because unfortunately, nutritional supplements are not regulated like antidepressants are.

Septembersun
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   Posted 10/26/2005 8:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much for all the info Rianna. Much appreciated. I'll look into the Sam-e.

Red_34
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   Posted 10/31/2005 6:06 AM (GMT -7)   
I had started St. Johns Wart about 5 days ago because though I was going to go to the docs but I decided against it because I didn't really want to take antidepressants. I believe that I have mild depression and in the past I had taken Wellbutrin to help me stop smoking, well this drug did horrible things to my emotions and mind. And because of that I am a little leary of other antidepressants. I'm sure there are others out there that I could try but I figured to give the all natural approach a go first.

At first it did nothing for me, but now that I'm on the 5th day I am noticing a huge difference. I don't feel like crying all the time and I'm starting to feel again. I've read that sometimes it takes about 2 weeks before the full benefit of this can be seen. I am taking 2 - 450mgs capsules once a day that is time released.


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Septembersun
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   Posted 10/31/2005 8:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Sherry. Can you let me know if you feel any side effects from it?

Red_34
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   Posted 10/31/2005 8:48 AM (GMT -7)   
So far I haven't felt any wierd side effects, just a gradual increase of improved mental status. But I will let you know after I've used it for a little while longer.

~~Sherry~~
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis in 1992
Currently taking: 9 Colazal (750mg) daily,
Diagnosed with Reynaulds Syndrome in 2004
Currently taking: Niacin-500mgs

~Life may take some unexpected rolls, the best we can do is roll with it~
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Squattie
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   Posted 10/31/2005 10:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I toddled on over from the crohn's forum. I have been taking St. John's Wort for several months. I take it along with valerian root. I tend to have bouts of anxiety and depression related to crohn's. St. John's Wort is great. Not only can it alleviate depression (mild to moderate), but it's also good for cleaning up the liver, aids in digestion, has powerful antioxidant benefits and helps to support the immune system. Because it does help to cleanse the liver it can also make some of your meds less effective. Might want to look up contraindications if you're on other meds and see if St. John's Wort is right for you. I think it's contraindicated for drugs that suppress the immune system.
.....Squattie


dbab
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   Posted 10/31/2005 11:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Sherry,
Don't let one experience with an antidepressants give you the wrong idea. I have gone through 5 (I think thats the right number) of antidepressants before I found the right one. I also had a very bad experience with Wellbutrin and I found out that it just wasn't the right medication for me. Just a note to be careful with St. John's Wort because it could have interactions with other meds that you are taking as with any herbs. Take Care
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Red_34
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   Posted 11/1/2005 5:44 AM (GMT -7)   
I have already checked for interactions on a nifty little website called drugdigest.com. It will tell you of any interaction between prescription meds, herbals supplements and/or food and drug. The only interaction that I found was not to drink alcohol with St. Johns Wart. That's not much a problem since I don't drink much anyway.

~~Sherry~~
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis in 1992
Currently taking: 9 Colazal (750mg) daily,
Diagnosed with Reynaulds Syndrome in 2004
Currently taking: Niacin-500mgs

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dbab
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   Posted 11/1/2005 6:38 AM (GMT -7)   
I use that website too!!! Isn't it great? I also use (I also use Walgreens or CVS website, forget which one) for a second opinion. The biggest things I have heard with the interactions with St. John's Wort is using it with anti-depressants. I don't know if its a problem with many people but I understand sometimes the desperation for relief from depression.
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diamond911
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   Posted 11/4/2005 7:34 AM (GMT -7)   
wrong time of year for this advise, but stay out of the sun. You will get a nasty burn. It makes you photosensitive.

whitewolf
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   Posted 11/4/2005 10:08 PM (GMT -7)   
HI I am new to this site. More like i stumbled onto it. But I have considered taking the St. John's Wort. You all seem very helpful and supporetive that makes things very nice in here.

Red_34
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   Posted 11/6/2005 6:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the advice diamond. I didn't know that but I will keep that in mind. Unfortunately I live in Michigan so the sun is not very ummm present as of late! lol The last thing I need is a sunburn, but I did notice the other day (when we did actually had sun) that my face felt much hotter in the sun then normal.

Update on my St. John's wart usage.....I am feeling great! Before I started taking, if a small incidence would come up, I would dwell on it for hours and do the what ifs. It would make me feel horrible... emotionally. It also did not help my illness any because stress plays a big factor in it. And I also believe that many of my aches and pains were coming from my depression. I was a walking mass of muscle aches. Now the aches have decreased and it couldn't make me happier. So yeah, I would definately say that this is working for me. It's been a year and half since I've actually felt emotionally "light" and I can laugh like I mean it now. It doesn't feel like I'm a fraud anymore, someone who is just going thru the motions of life but actually enjoying it now. It's awesome :)

Thank you Septembersun for mentioning this sometimes forgotten remedy!

~~Sherry~~
Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis in 1992
Currently taking: 9 Colazal (750mg) daily,
Diagnosed with Reynaulds Syndrome in 2004
Currently taking: Niacin-500mgs

~Life may take some unexpected rolls, the best we can do is roll with it~
Please help Healingwell continue to help others:
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