Excessive need for sleep - Depression?

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kellyinCali
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   Posted 8/31/2017 11:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi. I have been experiencing MDD for months on end. I've been on the Med Roulette. I take Benzo's and muscle relaxers for emergencies only as I am trying avoiding meds that cause somnolence. I need to understand why I am sleeping so much.

Has anybody experienced this during their depressive episodes? It is more typical for depressed people to not be able to sleep. I definitely have a delayed phase sleep disorder (Circadium Rythm) but now I'm wondering if I might have sleep apnea. I live alone (w/ fur kids), so it's impossible to know whether or not I stop breathing or even if I "snore." I've been told I snore before, but former boyfriends have never said "your snoring is a problem." Apparently, I used to snore sometimes. I never want to get out of bed. I know that I wake to pee several times a night but I go right back to sleep. I can sleep 12 hours before I'm ready to "get up." That is, if I have that luxury. I set my alarm for appointments and such. l also take naps. The problem with the naps is that I kick myself when I get up and also feel a little "down" because I took the nap.

I have requested labs for anything/everything that could cause excessive sleepiness.

Has anybody experienced this and what did you do to correct it?

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   Posted 9/1/2017 3:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Whenever I am depressed, all I want to do is sleep. It seems to be a coping mechanism of some sort. I am not sure. I can't correct it. It just goes away when I am feeling better. I hope you get out of the cycle of sleeping all the time.

When I first got fibromyalgia, I slept for two years. You can't get that back. I missed out on a lot of life.

I hope you find out what is going on.

Hugs, Karen...

PS we are heading towards winter months. Shorter days and all that. This might be coming from that. I read somewhere we have that need to hibernate as a lot of other animals do. You never know... It might be the case. I am sleeping more now than I did during the summer.
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kellyinCali
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   Posted 9/2/2017 2:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for your response, Karen.

I too have been DX with Fibromyalgia. I sometimes wonder if this is the first time my body has been allowed to relax in nearly a decade, perhaps the extra sleep is from burn out and now with depression, it is easier to sleep (for me). I'd like the idea of being a bear "hibernating" and doing what comes natural. I do not work right now so it is not as if I can't take the extra sleep. I've just been concerned about it as I have never experienced this before. I did read that both Bipolar Depression and "atypical" depression manifest in oversleeping more than typical MDD.

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   Posted 9/2/2017 5:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Everybody I have known in person with depression seemed to sleep a lot. I always thought it was a part of it, though I felt maybe I had chronic fatigue with the fibromyalgia. Fibromyalgia is a *****. I have had it since about 2002. Like I mentioned before I was in bed for about 2 years. I listened to life go by though the bedroom window. I hated it. I had to hang on to furniture to walk around the house. My husband had to take me to appointments. I couldn't even shop by myself. I hope yours doesn't last. I take Adderall to help me function. It is the only thing that keeps me going.

I hope I didn't scare you. It is just that it was such a struggle in the beginning. I am better now, but still not 100 percent.

I hope you can get a grip on it. I hope it doesn't take control of your life like it did to me.

One day at a time is all we can do.

Hugs, Karen...
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BnotAfraid
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   Posted 9/2/2017 8:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome,

Seems you either sleep alot or get insomnia...

Depending on the reason for MDD.

Ask your Doc or therapis about coping skills.

Peace
Trina
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"...when the gift of sight is cause enough for jubilation."
Billy Collins from the poem. HIGH

DX: reverse Trigeminal Neuralgia;Cluster headaches; Atypical face pain;Hemicrania Continua; raynauds;complex PTSD; recurring MDD,disassociative disorder;

kellyinCali
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   Posted 9/2/2017 8:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Karen -- My P-doc prescribed 5mg. Ritalin x 2/day because I wasn't even able to make it to important appointments. I was afraid to take it but at my dosage, it's harmless. It wears off after only 3 hours. A little trick I have learned to help me get up is to set the alarm 1 hour before I need to get up. Take 1 Ritalin and then reset the alarm for 1 hour later. I'm glad you are feeling better. I need more walking/exercising to help my Fibro. Surely you understand that vicious cycle. I think we are both fortunate that a doctor is willing to prescribe the stimulant if that's what it takes to help us "function" until we improve. I do not have an addictive personality (or propensity to become addicted) as I am pretty much a med phobe and do not enjoy feeling out of control or buzzy or zombie. lol

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Trina, I barely ever get to see my therapist but she is very much of the "Mindful" style. She catches the way I talk about things and helps me to re-phrase them all of the time. Thinking negatively when depressed is the natural default but we must change our thoughts and esp. what we tell ourselves about our situation in order to feel better. I admit, I am very hard on myself and trying hard to be "gentle with myself." If we are not gentle with ourselves, how do we expect others to be?

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   Posted 9/3/2017 5:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I am so thankful for the stimulant. I am glad you got one too. Ritalin is good for that. I took concerta for awhile, which is a Ritalin but it didn't always work when it was suppose to. I don't think my stomach acid was breaking it down right. I like regular Ritalin or Adderall much better. I am so happy you have something to help.

I hope you have a good day today. Happy Labor Day weekend.

Hugs, Karen...
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kellyinCali
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   Posted 9/4/2017 4:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you, Karen. Happy Labor Day to you as well. smile

BTW, other than a hiccup, I've been feeling so much better. Life is so different when your brain can see life as it really is.

cilly
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   Posted 9/7/2017 2:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Delayed sleep and shift in rhythm is a learned behavior as my ex doc told me.

I tend to sleep late as cannot work and don't have to answer a boss.

My MDD either makes me sleep 17 hrs a day not in stretch but long naps or no sleep at all .

My depression has not made much improvement because doc tried so many meds and dropped me.
My new doc might suggest some different alternatives.

I am trying to cope with it all and be active ,or bed will keep me.
My bedroom looks horrible,I m not even functional.
As do not work or have school yet..
My anxiety,depression and insomnia goes in loop which never stops.
Waiting for a day when I feel positive.
Cilly

kellyinCali
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   Posted 9/8/2017 12:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Cilly, I completely disagree with your doctor and so does the National Sleep Foundation. We will "naturally" fall back to our individual circadian rhythms if given the opportunity and that is when it becomes habitual, not a "learned behavior."

You wrote: //My MDD either makes me sleep 17 hrs a day not in stretch but long naps or no sleep at all .//

Are you BiPolar? I recently had a bout w/ insomnia and wondered "what in the world of waldo is going on here?" I actually needed the sleep that night. All the nights before, I could just sleep anytime. So frustrating.

I am so sorry to hear about your doctor dropping you. I have been on the med roulette too. I got the Lamictal Rash, I got Vertigo and Anakesia (sp?). Some meds simply didn't work. It's scary once you realize you are not only med sensitive but have treatment resistant depression.

I understand about not functioning. I have three pets and in order to keep them fed and the kitchen and bathroom clean is sometimes all I can manage. It really sucks to have these brain health disorders. I look forward to hearing a positive report from you soon. Hang in there. HUGS.

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   Posted 9/8/2017 12:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Kelly Cali

Awesome self advocacy in adjusting the medication to work with you and actually using the med as part of a coping skill so your diagnosis does not take over your life.

This is exactly what we want to do. We want to be in control of the diagnosis not the other way around.

I have MDD, C-PTSD, DISSOCIATIVE DISORDER with psychotic features. Also, I have neurological damage in my head and net mostly nerve damage which causes daily pain.

I would like to share my coping skills with you only because on the train ride of depression medicines are constantly tried, combined with, raised, lowered, and switched to the point of sometimes you don't remember what medication you are on.

So that being said, my constants to stay balanced as much as possible and try to get at least 3 to 4 hours sleep at night are the following.

Walk the dogs around the block
Art of any kind; you did not need to be a artist per se just willing to put your emotions out there in a creative way
Music. I find that what time the anger is released when I listen to and sing heartily to heavy rock and rock
When I am sad or that big emptiness comes into my life soft music piano instrumental cello violins sooths and kind of feels that emptiness for a while
mindfulness; too many ways to list there is a link in the resource thread at the top of this form

I do hope some of this helps it takes a lot of courage and hard work two the issues with depression

Peace and strength

Trina

Apologies 4 any misspellings and strange words I am doing this by speaker on my phone. My internet is down and my hands are shaking too bad to type
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"...when the gift of sight is cause enough for jubilation."
Billy Collins from the poem. HIGH

DX: reverse Trigeminal Neuralgia;Cluster headaches; Atypical face pain;Hemicrania Continua; raynauds;complex PTSD; recurring MDD,disassociative disorder;

BnotAfraid
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   Posted 9/8/2017 12:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Kelly Cali

Awesome self advocacy in adjusting the medication to work with you and actually using the med as part of a coping skill so your diagnosis does not take over your life.

This is exactly what we want to do. We want to be in control of the diagnosis not the other way around.

I have MDD, C-PTSD, DISSOCIATIVE DISORDER with psychotic features. Also, I have neurological damage in my head and net mostly nerve damage which causes daily pain.

I would like to share my coping skills with you only because on the train ride of depression medicines are constantly tried, combined with, raised, lowered, and switched to the point of sometimes you don't remember what medication you are on.

So that being said, my constants to stay balanced as much as possible and try to get at least 3 to 4 hours sleep at night are the following.

Walk the dogs around the block
Art of any kind; you did not need to be a artist per se just willing to put your emotions out there in a creative way
Music. I find that what time the anger is released when I listen to and sing heartily to heavy rock and rock
When I am sad or that big emptiness comes into my life soft music piano instrumental cello violins sooths and kind of feels that emptiness for a while
mindfulness; too many ways to list there is a link in the resource thread at the top of this form

I do hope some of this helps it takes a lot of courage and hard work two the issues with depression

Peace and strength

Trina

Apologies 4 any misspellings and strange words I am doing this by speaker on my phone. My internet is down and my hands are shaking too bad to type
Moderator - Depression

"...when the gift of sight is cause enough for jubilation."
Billy Collins from the poem. HIGH

DX: reverse Trigeminal Neuralgia;Cluster headaches; Atypical face pain;Hemicrania Continua; raynauds;complex PTSD; recurring MDD,disassociative disorder;

kellyinCali
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   Posted 9/8/2017 11:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I admit, I love to color but have not gone so far as to buy some supplies to have at home. New habits can be like the gym...the hard part is just starting. Thank you for the awesome reminder. Walking the dog is a must. In fact, my depression combined with a move has left my pug/daschund mix with long (black) thick nails because I couldn't get it together. I accomplished a bath and a nail trim today. I think he will enjoy his walks more and checking something off of the list (especially for the fur-babies) boosts my mood.
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