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penny64
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   Posted 11/27/2006 5:20 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
Hi all,
I'm new to this forum but have a question for anyone who might be like me.  I take zoloft but like to have a few beers.  It hasn't been a real problem until recently and I don't remember things when drinking.  I know this can be a side affect from alcohol and I'm sure mixing the two only intensifies the problem.  My question is, does anyone take an anti-depressant and drink and not feel it makes you feel alot worse or makes you forget things more easily?  I'm really thinking of trying something different other than Zoloft.  There's a generic version out there now and I think that has bee part of my problem
Thanks!
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   Posted 11/27/2006 6:07 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post

Hi Penny, Welcome to Healing Well we are happy to have you.  I was on Zoloft for many years and took up to 200mg a day dosage.  I went through a stage in my 20's where I drank quite a bit and I was on this medication while doing so.  I knew what the possible effects would be of mixing alcohol with antidepressants but at the time thought that of course nothing adverse would happen to me.  If I had a few drinks whatever they were I was fine except for a slight hangover the next morning and regret of drinking the next day.  If I drank in excess which was usually the case I too would have what you’re describing as "not remembering things".  Yes, drinking with any antidepressant is going to intensify this problem.  The generic version of Zoloft is Sertraline and I would very much doubt that going to the generic version would help your situation as their chemical compounds are very much the same. 

You can talk to your doctor about this and see if another antidepressant is going to be better for you and handle holding up to social situations.  I am sure that other members will also post to you with suggestions and advice.  Please do keep posting this is a great forum for information and support.  Take care


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   Posted 11/28/2006 12:37 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post

Hey Penny64,

Glad to have you on board.  Have you ever read the warning sticker on your meds bottle(s).  Or the pharmacy information they include with every prescription?  All anti-depressants warn against the use of alcohol while taking the medication.  Alcohol is a depressant, Zoloft is an anti-depressant.  See any conflict here?  It's like a milder version of a speedball - cocaine and heroin - which is what killed John Belushi.  Mixing medications with conflicting purposes is just asking for trouble.  You know, you just can't have it all.  If you need to take the Zoloft, lay off the beer.  Sometimes you have make sacrifices to fix a chemical imbalance in your brain.  If nothing else, try substituting a non-alcoholic beer.  That way you can be out and social, without the fear of something really bad happening, or doing things you won't remember the next day.

I made the mistake of drinking while on my meds back in October.  I had no idea that it would affect me the way it did.  I was drinking double White Russians faster than the alcohol was hitting me.  It started catching up with me pretty quickly.  I knocked something onto the floor, which I bent over to pick up.  I hit my head squarely on the bar and gave myself a concussion.  I remember nothing about the next half hour.  I saw friends, had conversations, and had to get an escort to walk me back to my room.  Good thing he was a really nice, well-built fireman, because my room was way at the other end of the complex.  I do remember bouncing off the walls a number of times.  Drinking was a stupid thing to do, and I knew better.  I thought I'd just test the odds.  Bad idea.  Don't keep making the same mistake.  It's just not worth it.

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   Posted 11/28/2006 5:48 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
Thanks for the lecture but I've been drinking for over 10 years on the meds and I haven't had an experience like you're talking about. I'm thinking of weaning myself off the zoloft and trying some sort of natural supplement.
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   Posted 11/28/2006 8:33 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post

Hey Penny,

I didn't mean to come across as lecturing, I just wanted to give you another perspective, since my mixing of anti-depressants and alcohol did not work out so well for me.  If you step back and look at your situation like it was some unknown person, you might see things slightly different.  You started taking anti-depressants for a reason.  Unless your situation is drastically changed, stopping prescription medication in favor of herbal remedies is a crap shoot.  Non-regulated herbal remedies are very sketchy in their effectiveness.  Because they are not regulated by the FDA, which would basically eliminate their existance, there is widespread disparity in what benefits they may offer.  In addition, the concentration of the "active" ingredient varies widely, not only from product to product, but within individual lots of the same product.  That's why the FDA wants to regulate all herbal remedies.

Drinking alcohol numbs you out, and seems to make your problems disappear.  But they don't.  It just prevents you from dealing with them.  Saying that you've been drinking on the meds for ten years is not a thing to brag about.  If you stopped drinking for a while, you might be able to confront and resolve your problems while still on your meds, and if you did that, maybe you wouldn't need to take them anymore.  Not lecturing, just giving you food for thought.  Lastly, you're not posting on this board because life, as you are living it, is working for you.  Just think about it.

Let us know how you are doing.  We care.

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   Posted 12/21/2009 1:17 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
I am 20 years old. I use lexapro for two monts i must say great anxiety and depression are gone. I found Lexapro online on google i must say great medicine

also for young people. http://www.antidepressantscomparison.com
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   Posted 12/21/2009 1:39 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
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   Posted 12/21/2009 9:57 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
If you are suffering from depression, drinking just adds to the suffering being it is a depressant. So expect to become more depressed. It is all about chemicals in the brain. So if you want to feel better, the best thing is not to drink. But if you feel you must drink, expect to be depressed. Sorry, but that is the facts.

I hope that you feel better. Keep posting as we are here for you.

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   Posted 12/21/2009 7:00 PM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
Hi Penny,
I'm allergic to alcohol, so I can't speak from personal experience, but I really think this question is better asked of your doctor. Everyone processes anti-depressants differently. Everyone processes alcohol differently. Some people like Leigh Ann will have serious & immediate consequences of mixing the two. Some people will have no immediate consequences of mixing the two, but will end up with liver damage from continuing to mix them for a year or more. Yet others will somehow manage to mix alcohol, antidepressants and a half dozen other drugs & will miraculously have no consequences at all.

Your doctor knows your medical history & can evaluate your neurological & psychiatric functioning. It is possible to have the symptoms you describe. A friend of mine had those same symptoms (though she didn't recognize them in herself, just about everyone who knew her would talk about it & try to discourage her from drinking; especially the last year or so when for some reason it seems her memory after drinking has gotten a lot worse).

I would agree with the post about there not being a difference in the side effects of the generic vs. name brand. By law they have to be nearly identical. Unless you are having a reaction to one of the inactive ingredients, nothing is likely to change by switching to the generic (there are some people who are lactose-intolerant, for example, who by switching between a name-brand & generic can benefit by having a lactose-free medication with the same active ingredient. it can improve general health & thereby decrease the severity of some side effects, but the difference even with that is typically not huge even if it is measurable).

Please do talk to your doctor. I'm assuming by the number of years you say you've been drinking that you're over 21 so there really is nothing to fear by bringing it up. There are even tests that can be run to check how your body is metabolizing the medication while on alcohol to see if somehow it is affecting you more.

take care,
frances
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   Posted 12/26/2009 6:32 AM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
PENNY, HI. i am jamie. due to t1 diabetes, and a genetic hormone condition i am wary with alcohol. i am 37, i alike most people enjoy the occassional drink myself. beer, a no no, brings your sugars down too quickly, thus, alike xmas time i only drink in moderation. alcohol is a depressant. i have seen the effects of others who are on medication and over indulge. it is not pretty. thx for your post, i would consult your doc about herbal/alternatives. i wish you well. keep safe and welcome. jamie.


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   Posted 1/16/2010 6:54 PM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
Hi everyone,

I would just like to add my story to this forum. It might help others, and I would be interested to know if anyone else has the same issues I had. The botom line is that my experience with alcohol and antideppressants has not been a good one. My behaviour has been very random and it took me years to figure it out.

I'm 43, I have been on Lexapro for about 6 years after having work related anxiety issues. I have just about got myself off the drug but not after a real rollercoaster ride which has almost ruined my marraige, my business and other personal relationships. This isn't bagging Lexapro. Its works well, but perhaps just a note of caution to what you mix with it.

I took Lexapro for anxiety. I used to drink about 5 standard drinks a day. the lexapro worked, but at some point I started to do really stupid things while drinking. Previously drinking would relax me, but more and more I was behaving erratically while drunk. eg. showing off, running up the street in my underwear when my football team won, riding shopping trolleys down busy streets, booking holidays and buying things online with my credit card that I could not afford. Dumb stuff like this. I would have random sex with strangers. I also got these strange 'highs' from drinking and I would drink more and more until I got very drunk and could not remember what I had done the next day. I didn't make any co-relation with my medication at the time.

After visiting my doctor, we considered that my behavour might be more than depression and anxiety but bipolar disorder. I had all the symptoms. I was put on a drug called Zyprexa, which made a tempoary improvement. After about 6 months I was getting very depressed, and could not work Did not want to get out of bed. I used to go to bed after drinking of course and hope I would not wake up the next day. Over the course of another 18 months my dosage of my Zyprexa and lexapro was increased to the point where i could no longer function. My drinking sessions started to become violent, my relationship with my partner broke down, and my business was going broke.

Luckily at this point, mother nature stepped in and flooded my business in a massive storm For the first time in about 4 years I was able to take some time off and think about my problems. I got off the Zyprexa and my depression went away immediately(again, this is not against Zyprexa. It just was not the drug I needed). I continued with a 40mg dosage of lexapro, and continued drinking. My behavoiur while drinking was still bad. I still did random things. Not everytime, but at least once every 5 or 6 drinking sessions. The obvious issue I had now was that i had become an alcoholic during this period.

As my workload was now different. I did not have the same stresses i used to have(which was the reason for using it in the first place), I decided it might be time to come off the lexapro. And thats where the magic has happened. Over 8 weeks i cut back from 40 to 20, then from 20 to 10, and now from 10 to 5mg/day. I would not recommend anyone to halve their medication like I did. i had some serious highs and lows when I did this but I rode through it. in retrospect I would have cut down in smaller steps.

The great news for me is that with this cut back, am able to have a single beer at the end of the day and stop, or maybe not drink at all. On a friday or sat night i can have 6 if I want, and NOT do anything stupid, I now just get relaxed like i used to. I am back to being a non-violent person which is what I want. I have my sexual function back so no more frustration. I have my conscience back so no more cheating, and best of all. I have a chance to make things right with my girl who i have put through hell in the last 3 years.


I would like to know if other people have had bad experiences when mixing alcohol and anti-depressants?


My advice to anyone on or considering anti-deppresants for anxiety is consider this.
1) if you are not coping with your job or your life, perhaps you should look at changing them, rather than taking medication to cope with them. The medication might work, but he side effects down the track can be devastating.

2) Seek professional advice from a shrink, rather than a general practitioner. They might cost more, but they are better trained. Just a few visits might save years of grief.


Problems you could have when using anti-deppressants(from my experience)
1) Loss of conscience- you can become lees concerned about doing the wrong thing. For me this led to infedelity.

2) Inability to have an orgasm. Again this can become a major problem over a couple of years and combined with 1) above, can lead to problems in your relationship, should you be in one. This one is mainly for guys. Unfortunately for us, when our life goes to crap, we still feel the need to. Unlike most women who don't seem to have this issue (well not on a daily basis)

3) Lack of compassion/closeness for your partner or those close to you.

4) Random behaviour when combining medication with alcohol.


All of these issue have casued me great problems with my relationship and I am only very lucky to still in with a chance at re-building it and my business


Be happy everyone!

Jason









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   Posted 1/16/2010 7:50 PM (GMT -7)    Quote This Post
Hi Jason,
 
Welcome to healingwell.  And to the depression forum. 
 
I understand what you are saying, but you seem to be blaming just the antidepressants for your problems when I think that the alcohol played a huge roll in it.  Mixing the two isn't such a good idea.  And alcohol is a depressant and makes the antidepressants virtually useless.  It fights them. 
 
Being that said, I am glad that you are drinking less, because of the fact that alcohol does depress you.  There is no question about that.  Regular use of it will cause a person to become depressed.
 
I am happy that you were able to go off of your medications and are able to live a normal life.  I hope that this continues for you and that you can be a happy individual.  Just becareful and try to keep the alcohol use to a minimum. 
 
You mentioned that you can be a non violent person now.  Were you violent before?  How violent were you?  You mention about making things up to your girlfriend, were you violent with her at all?  I hope not, it sounds like you cheated on her, has she forgiven you?  Does she understand that it was the combo of the meds and alcohol?  Do you think you can stay faithful now?  Are you drinking at all anymore? 
 
I hope that things work out for you.  And I hope that you and your girlfriend can be happy.  But I think that there are some issues that maybe you need to get closure for.  Talking to a therapist could be a good idea.  Just to go over the past and make sure that you are not going to run into this distructive behavior again.
 
Best wishes,
 
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