Post Edited By Moderator (Admin) : 1/2/2007 10:55:59 AM (GMT-7)
Stop doubting your ability to carry on. Remember, feelings change, and just as sure as you felt differently a year ago, you will feel differently than you're feeling now. So hold on to that hope that your feelings will change, and for the better. I would distance myself from the violence and arguing that's going on in your family. Find somewhere quiet where you can try and find some peace even if it means going to the library. Paranoia often accompanies anxiety so try not to listen to those thoughts. Those thoughts are lying to you. And this thing about losing your friends. Ask yourself what that would mean, and you will find that fear of death is at the bottom of it. If I lose my friends then I'll be all alone, and if I'm all alone no one will be able to help me, and if no one can help me how will I survive that means I'll die. You're letting fear run your life. The cure for fear is faith. Start believing that God is taking care of you. Give God all your troubles and all your worries and all your fears. Let Him have them so you can rest. The self harming will stop as soon as you take away whatever reward it is you feel like you're getting from that behavior. People don't continue to repeat behaviors that they're not rewarded for, so you have to ask yourself, "What reward am I receiving from this behavior?" As soon as you realize there's no reward you will discontinue the behavior. Changing your thoughts will change your feelings. You are thinking thoughts that are basically are negative and untrue. You're magnifying the negative and minimizing the positive. Start writing down your negative thoughts, and then write a response to the negative thoughts that is more true and more reality based. You'll find that most of your thoughts presently are false and exaggerated once you start talking back to them on paper. Stop letting all those bad thoughts bang around in your head producing all the negative emotions and feelings you are experiencing. When you think "I feel like I'm going mad." You write next to that thought. "What indicators do I see that are leading me to this conclusion?" "How could a mad person write asking for help?" "If I were mad I would already have been taken to the nut house." "Mad people don't know they're mad now do they." So on and so forth until you've satified yourself that your original negative thought was and is indeed untrue. You are letting a bunch of untrue thoughts and ideas run your life. Talk back to those negative thoughts and watch them disolve under the light of reason. God bless you.
Post Edited By Moderator (els) : 1/1/2007 7:45:41 AM (GMT-7)
the purpose for this board, forum, and thread is to share experiences, ideas, and to present alternatives tio each other. this is what i attempted to do in my last post and what you did in your previous post. don't let a loud noise freighten you. it's only a big noise. and there is truth and light to be fopund there, too - just get through the media and get to the essence of the message.
i enjoy your postings and sincerely hope that you don't abandon us.
Major Depression, Anxiety/Panic Disorder, ADHD, Binge Eating Disorder, PTSD, Degenerative Disc Disease (post 3 Surgeries including Fusion), Advanced Osteoarthritis, Fibromyalgia, Interstitial Cystitis, IBS, GERD, Larngopharyngeal Reflux
God, Please Grant Me,
The Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The Courage to change the things that I can,
and The Wisdom to know the difference……….Just for Today
Leigh Ann, I have removed your post due to it violating forum rules#12 No Flaming of another member (including insulting). Should you of had a problem with this member you should of e-mailed a forum moderator regarding your concerns instead of airing them on this board. Thank you. Elisha
Post Edited By Moderator (els) : 1/1/2007 7:24:10 AM (GMT-7)
Mr. Christian, I am so very sorry that you feel you were attacked for your beliefs and your postings. All that I can say is that on this web site we do attract many people from all over the world and due to this and to try to minimize as much confilict as possible we do ask that members limit religious postings or referenences to "my prayers are with you" or a brief quote. Only to be intended as a offering of mutual personal support. This is forum rule # 10. America is all about freedom of religion as you stated however, this web site is privitely owned and asks that members follow these rules. I can see that you have a lot to contribute here and would like to see you keep posting. Thank You ~ Elisha
Post Edited By Moderator (els) : 1/1/2007 8:10:29 AM (GMT-7)
Dear Leigh Ann:
It's a new day. No more arguing. I will rescend my frustrated vow to leave this site because I know I can help the people here. It's a new year, and my intentions are to help others like I'd like to be helped. God bless you.
I'm not advocating trying to look for good things in a bad place. I was putting forth a cognitive approach which believes that if you change your thinking you can change your feelings. Now, initially this will be troublesome because usually we've built up a storehouse of bad thoughts that we now have to go about dismanteling one by one which takes time, but at least you'll be headed in the right direction instead of being in the downward spiral you were in before. So it's not looking for the positive so much as it's talking back to the negative thoughts with more realistic thoughts because 99% of the other thoughts are full of exaggeration and fortune telling (imagining how horrible it's going to be down the road over and over). So stop looking for the positives, and start challenging your negative, exaggerated, lying thoughts with reality based thoughts which will change your feelings because feelings follow thoughts.
For instance you say of positive thoughts "most times I can't find them." I'd challenge that statement with a statement more reality based such as "Often I find it difficult to see the positive when I'm hurting but when I try I can think of at least one, if not several good things in my life. Lets see. I have food. I have a place to live. I can see. I'm not dying of cancer." Do you see what I'm talking about. Gratitude will change your attitude. You can always find something to be thankful for.
I understand the desparation I hear in your words. I've experienced it through the years on many different occassions. When you get in a desparate place the first thing you need to do is to imagine circumstances worse than what you're experiencing. I begin by imagining experiencing my current problems being complicated by being blind and in prison. Now that particular thought makes my present difficulties seem rather simple. Again, gratitude will change your attitude. You can always be thankful that you are not at some level of pain that would be infinitely worse than your present condition. Just imagine if you didn't have anyone to talk to, or that you didn't have money for food, or that you were homeless. All those thoughts will stand to bring you to an appreciation of how bad it isn't, rather than how bad it is.
Hey, athmlldy411 don't worry about the others getting mad at me. Man, that kind of stuff rolls off me like water off a ducks back. I've had to put up with criticism for one thing or another most of my life so it's all in a days work for me. I'm real good about being able to handle critics. In fact I've come to enjoy it because it helps me to stay sharp and agile using words to defend myself. I enjoy a good argument, so don't worry about me because when it (depression, anxiety, panic) didn't kill me, it made me a lot stronger. And I'm here to share that strength with those who are hurting.
First things first. You need to find a good doctor who can make an informed diagnosis about your condition. But if your senses are telling you that you seem to vascilate between being really up with spending sprees, or delusions of grandeur (believing you're someone famous), or sexual promiscuity, then I'd say those would be pretty good indicators of mania. Of course depression is not so hard to recognize, and if this is your first journey there don't worry it's not as bad as it seems. Once you realize that you will return from the darkness you won't fear it so much the next time. The goal is to minimize the "next times", and that's what a good doc and some good medications can help you do, along with a toolbox full of all kinds of methods and strategies that will enable you to cope more efficiently with whatever it is that's ailing you.
Being new to these symptoms it's not at all uncommon for you to feel very panicky and nervous, but be assured millions before you have been there and returned, and so will you if you employ the coping mechanisms suggested by those who've used them successfully, and if you get in touch with a knowlegable doctor who can prescribe the medication that will help right your ship. I'd admonish you to take it on a one day at a time basis, and stop worrying about tomorrow or any things that are beyond today. That philosophy will help you stay more focused in the present which will greatly reduce your apprehensiveness about your problems.
Hey brother/sister, you don't ever have to ask me for forgiveness. You never did anything that needed to be forgiven. Take Leigh Ann for instance, and the little spat we had. Heck, my pulse stayed the same during the whole skirmish. I see where she's coming from, and I understand her feelings, and all is well that ends well. You take care of yourself first and foremost by finding a doctor who's competent, and who knows manic-depression when he/she sees it. Then talk, talk, talk, until you get it all out. After that take your meds everyday, and on time.
This too shall pass.....
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Post Edited (hopefulmigrainer) : 1/1/2007 1:54:59 PM (GMT-7)