frozen shoulder

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landolakes
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   Posted 2/11/2007 11:12 AM (GMT -6)   
redface  Anyone out there suffer from frozen shoulder?   I have had this condition now for 6 months and have tried alot of different avenues to heal.   Anyone out there care to comment or start a chat?  Hope so.  Thank you

LondonGirl22
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   Posted 2/12/2007 9:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi landolakes,
 
Welcome to Healing Well.
 
I am sorry I don't have any answers for you as I don't know much about frozen shoulder's but I hope someone can come along and offer you some advice.
 
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landolakes
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   Posted 2/12/2007 9:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for the welcome Victoria.  I also hope someone on this site can offer insight on frozen shoulder.   Anyone out there please come forward. I want my shoulder to thaw!                      Thanx yeah

ozfm
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   Posted 2/12/2007 3:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi landolakes
 
I haven't got a frozen shoulder as such, but do have a shoulder injury quite similar.  I'd suggest all your choices, but one at a time, :-) although physical therapy would probably be the best starting point.  If you can find a really good therapist, try a sports physio, they will also give you exercises to do at home that will help release the problem and then as time goes on, strengthen the shoulder.  Gentle massage is also great if it is too painful, but myotherapy gets deep into the muscles if you can stand it.
 
Good luck
 
 
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Monika
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   Posted 2/12/2007 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
What is "frozen shoulder."

landolakes
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   Posted 2/12/2007 10:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi:  Well you know how you  have regular rotation of your arm.  With frozen shoulder your arm has barely any rotation.  Hence the name frozen shoulder or adhesive capsulitis.  I have had PT, accupuncture, used castor oil packs, etc.  Yes I have seen a specialist, I can have surgery with no guarantee, pt with no guarantee, accupuncture with no guarantee.  I think I just have to pray a lot over this one.  Any other suggestions. :-)

Minti
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   Posted 2/13/2007 8:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Landolakes, yes, I have a frozen shoulder, a condition up until two months ago I hadn't even heard of.  I am 52, female, and I just woke up with it one morning.  I put up with it for a couple of weeks before my boss at work suggested I go see a physiotherapist and it was she who told me what I was suffering from.  I could only afford two sessions of physio so I then went to my doctor who said physio usually wasn't of great benefit, nor steroid injections, nor cortisone injections, nor manipulation under anaesthesia etc.  He said it may take 2 1/2 years to get back to normal and there wasn't much he could do to aid recovery.  At first I just accepted it (with much moaning) but I've now got to the stage where I will try anything to rid myself of this constant pain.  I completely lost the plot the other day when a colleague said, casually, that they'd had a frozen shoulder when all they had was merely a bit of stiffness once.  I could have floored him.  For anyone who really does suffer from adhesive capsulitis you will appreciate what I'm saying.
 
Landolakes, I'm sorry I don't have any answers for you, but if you have any hope or encouragement for me I would love to hear from you!  I guess I'm just looking for a sound board on this forum as my poor long suffering husband is losing his empathy fast.  I can't tell you how painful this condition is.  I realise I'm still in Phase 1 but, quite honestly, the loss of function in Phase 2 would be welcome compared to the constant pain I'm in.  On the other hand, there must be so many others out there with chronic, life threatening illnesses who would gladly trade places with me.  Please forgive me for my thoughtless comments. I appreciate that by comparison I am at the lower end on the pain scales.
 
However, one thing that pain drives you to (or me anyway) is the hope of a cure from anyone who offers, genuine or not.  I went to see 'a bloke called Frank' last weekend who said, for a fee, he could 'do something' to help me. Daft, I know. He did some painful manipulation on my shoulder and arm but I spent the rest of the weekend crying from additional pain.  I just want it all to go away.  What a whimp I am!

landolakes
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   Posted 2/13/2007 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Minti:    I share not only frozen shoulder with your, but also age and gender.  I have had this condition for about 6 months. My condition was caused from a fall down the stairs.  Anyway as far as doing anything to help, I can tell you I am there.  I have tried accupuncture.  I have only had 3 sessions, it is costly and of course not covered by insurance.  I do intend to continue with a few more sessions as I can tell you that this nagging pain I had in the upper forearm as a result of the accident has been relieved.  So I would suggest seeking out a good accupunturist.  Ask around.  Some physicians may even have a recommendation.  Some hospitals may be able to refer you.  My physician (MD) is very open minded and suggested the accupuncture to me.   I did have a shot of cortisone, however, I do not think it did one thing.  I have used castor oil packs.  I pour castor oil onto  unbleached flannel and place on my shoulder area, I then put on a pc of plastic (saran) and then over that I place the heating pad, you could use a hot water bottle.  I leave this on for about 30 minutes.   I have seen my chiropractor.  There is not much she can do for it and has been very honest about that.  I did see a zero balancer ( ZB: Zero Balancing (ZB) is a hands-on bodywork system designed to align your energy body with your physical structure. Simple yet powerful, it focuses on your whole person, even when addressing specific needs) in her office, to no avail.  Maybe more session would have been beneficial.  But when insurance does not cover the alternative approaches I can not afford to continue.  I did give it two tries.  I did order some ointment over the internet called Rumalaya, you could look that up.  Some people think it really helps.  I could see no difference. I have had Physical Therapy.  I could see little results with that.  My physician wants me to undergoe intensive PT right now.  So I am going to try that. My insurance does cover that.  yeah     I just ordered a book by Brian Schiff (through internet) on frozen shoulder.  I have not read it yet, but plan to this week.  I also ordered a shoulder wrap for pain, called Coldone.(on internet)   Just ordered it yesterday.  It will help with pain after the physical therapy.  The supplements I take are MSM, BFC (Bone . Flesh and Cartilage) by Natures Way,( I order from vitacost.com)., I take hydrolyged collagen, glucosamine, and silica.   Maybe I forgot something, oh yes, epithelial tissue.  Yikes  I mean maybe you can go overboard with everything, but I don't think so.  You just have to keep trying.  So if you know of anything else Minti please let me know. I am open to try anything.  I also use 1 T. of Flax seed oil definetely every day.  Health to you!!   yeah PS  I am looking into EFT.  Emotional Freedom Technique, I hear it helps a lot of people with a lot of conditions.  Why not!  

Minti
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   Posted 2/13/2007 3:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Whhooaaaahhhh, Landolakes, I am mightily impressed with your efforts to self cure!  I can see I have been burying my head in the sand for the last two months.  My meagre efforts to help myself are nothing compared to yours.  I will re-read your post and consider my next move.  I have not heard of most of what you suggest but will check it all out.  All I've done so far is just dip my toe in the water it seems (apart from a lot of whinging).  My boss at work has a sister who practises Reiki (don't know how you spell that!) and I was up for it at the time but then he said 'she could even cure you by just looking at a photo of you, she doesn't have to meet you' and I deflated.  He did offer to go halves with me on the first session which I thought was sweet of him.  She is going to send me some details in the post.  When I spoke to her on the phone she said she has a holistic approach and asked whether I'd undergone any kind of emotional trauma.  The only thing I can think of is that my daughter got married last November and it started the week we got back from the wedding (she lives in South Africa).  The only incident that got to me was when she was upset about something and she confided in her mother in law and not me.  I accept I've been displaced (we used to be so close - she's been over there 4 years) and I really like her mother in law so I'm not sure this 'trauma' is the source of my condition.
 
I've been on 101 doctor type websites researching this condition and they all seem to pick up on the same things: non-dominant arm affected, site of pain, often starts for no reason and the predicted three phases (Phase 1 - pain, some loss of mobility, Phase 2 -frozen up, Phase 3 - defrosting).  In terms of cost of treatment, I think we may be in different time zones.  I'm in the UK and we have the National Health Service here.  Theoretically free but waiting lists are long, depending on where you live.  Some people have private health cover as part of their job package, but not me unfortunately.  Any healing treatment I attempt I will have to fund.  My doctor says I can have a steroid injection, followed by a cortisone injection, but from what I've read on other websites they don't work.  I'll have a go anyway just to see so I'm going to make an appointment with my doctor next week.  My Reiki contact says she uses ball bearings (?) pressed into the skin.  I'll let you know how I get on!  I have just remembered, I have a magnetic bracelet upstairs, I may dig that out in a minute and start wearing it.
 
The only other avenue of thought is a technique I read about in a library book.  It's some kind of manipulation therapy by a chap called Simeon Niel-Asher (www.frozenshoulder.com).  My nearest practitioner is in London and I'm about 70 miles away.  The book shows you how to apply the technique but I may need to send away for the dvd to get to grips with it and, even then, it's not something you can do on yourself.  You need a partner to work on you.   Oh joy of joys!  Apparently, this condition affects only 2% of the population in the 40-60 age bracket and you and I are in that 'lucky' 2%!
 
As regards supplements, the only thing I take is a multi-vitamin for the menopause which, thankfully, is not causing any problems.  I just don't want to get osteoporosis like my mum and nan.
 
I will keep you in my prayers Landolakes and let's hope we get better soon.  x

landolakes
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   Posted 2/13/2007 7:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Minti:  I will look into that Niel A. technique.   I looked at his free newsletter and there are some exercises.  You might look at that.   I need more time to view that site.  I wanted to say that I have had reike work done once.  It is really not a massage, but more energy work.  Well kind of both combined.  It did not help my shoulder, but I felt wonderful the following day.  When I went to the reike woman I did not tell her about my shoulder.  Kind of stupid, but I was not having a ton of pain when i went to her.  Maybe I should give it another try.  I did not know they could do it telepathically. 
I forgot to mention my doc suggested I purchase a magnet.  My choice.  I can only do so much, as magnets are expensive and I would have to pay for it.  Off to finish dinner.  I am so open to ideas and want to thank you.   So, Thank You.   I live in Ohio.   take care and thank you for the prayers.  I too, will pray for both of us.  Health and Happiness to you. 
 

AngMichelle
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   Posted 2/14/2007 5:07 PM (GMT -6)   
i would ask this post on the chronic pain forum
I hope the best for you,
ang
DX-Migraines:Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome:Kidney stones: IBS:Ulcers:Depression/Anxiety:Non-Epileptic Seizures:Buldging Disc:Joint pain
 
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landolakes
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   Posted 2/14/2007 6:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ang:   ahve you also had frozen shoulder.  You sure have been through  al lot.   Live, love, laugh
blessings,
landolakes :-)
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