Councillor Confused me ?

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scotsgal
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   Posted 3/29/2007 1:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone,
 
After feeling so rubbish I finally got a visit to my councillor, which I shall say has not helped me one little bit!! There was a student nurse there with her who I didn't know was going to be there so immediately I sort of clammed up a bit, then I spoke about getting a new job as I am thinking about it and she seems to think I'm a lot better, which to be honest I completely disagree with. Anyway she said to me she thinks I don't have full blown depression, and that I have anxiety which has caused depression. But now I feel like she thinks I've made it all up, and she doesn't believe me, if I don't have depression then what the hells been going on with me for the past 4 months beacuse I feel anything but normal and anything but me! I don't understand how I have anxiety because I do not suffer panic attacks and I'm not scared of anything like going out etc, the only things I can maybe relate to anxiety is that funny short of breath tight feeling I get in my chest sometimes. I'm so confused now, do I not have depression? Have I made all of this up? I really don't have a clue what to do now, cry maybe?!
 
Sorry everyone :(

Gemsi
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   Posted 3/29/2007 2:20 AM (GMT -7)   
When I saw a councillor, the same thing happened with me. I'd been getting on really well with my psychiatrist, and really felt like we were getting somewhere, when she decided it was time I saw someone in my area, rather than having to travel 2 hours to see her. The councillor I saw was useless, had no clue what had been happening, even though my Psych had sent her a letter explaining everything when she sent my referal.
This councillor also tried to say everything wasdown to anxiety, and made me feel like I was faking everything.

I've started to get used to students personally, as I have them come bombard me, with every single appointment I make, no matter who it's with or what it's for. I guess everyone has to learn somewhere, and it's good for the students to see how a councillor actually talks and interacts with the patient.
It might be a it nerve racking having someone new in the room with you. I've learnt to just talk to the person I was going to see though, and just let the students dothere thing, and take there notes. Although,your councillor not saying there would be a student with them,was incredibly mean.
If they try to bring a student in in future,youcan refuse. They should understand that it's hard enough talking to one person, never mind 2.

Just saying everything is down to anxiety probably wasn't a wise move from your councillor. It does make you feel that you've spent all your time fighting a different battle to the one you were supposed to be fighting,and makes everything you've worked towards seem pointless.

Don't let the fact that the Councillor has suggested anxiety get youdown though. They will be on the same mission as you, just seeing things a different way if that makes sense.

I know I personally suffer anxiety and depression. The anxiety onlypops up though when something major is going to happen. The depression is there all of the time, and just makes me feel incredibly worthless and sad.

I hopethat my post will be of some use to you, and hope your feeling happier about things soon.
XxXxX


It's true!: Smile and the whole world smiles with you. Frown and the world turns upside down.
 Diagnosed with: Cystic Fibrosis, Asthma, ABPA, Clinical Depression, Mild liver cirrohsis, mild osteopenia. Waiting for final diagnosis on Muscular Dystrophy type symptoms.
 Allergies: Any dressing except Mepilex border. Even plasters make my skin blister. Hayfever, Tazocin, Tobromycin, Ibruprofen, Asprin, Codeine, Mirtazapine.
I have a pretty little port-a-cath on left side of chest wall

Post Edited (Darkies Gem) : 3/29/2007 3:23:06 AM (GMT-6)


scotsgal
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   Posted 3/29/2007 2:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks ,it has helped a bit =) It just me feel more down her saying that as I was like well why have I been crying, down, sad, tired etc for so long, I only get anxious when bad things are going to happen or when I think about my bf, I think this is maybe beacuse the weekend I snapped (it literally did 'snap') we'd had quite a bad weekend. I just don't get whats going on still but thanks for the info, at least I kind of know I'm not a complete nutter making stories up to get help :S

els
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   Posted 3/29/2007 4:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey scotsgal, I am sorry you had that experiance with your counselor...I believe they should all tell you when they have a student that is going to join in on your session...but you may live in a differant country than the US right?  So, confidiently laws would be differant, if you even have them at all.
Please dont ever let a doctor, counselor or anyone else make you feel that what you are going through isnt true, or isnt what your feeling.  Your feelings are valid and I am sure that the time you have spend on here and most likely doing your own research you know what your going through.  Anxiety is a whole seperate disorder but there are tie ins between it and depression.
I know it is hard to speak up sometimes when in these appointments...I try to write things down on paper that I want to discuss and make a point to stick to that so I dont forget things and chicken out as I sometimes dont always say what I should too.  Perhaps this may help for you next time....I dont know?  Also, you can try taking one of those depression surveys that is online and print it out to take with you.  They are very clear cut and ask direct questions...to this I dont think she would be able to deny if you have depression or not as the scoring is pretty clear on the scales. 
Hang in there and know we are always here for you dear...take care

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scotsgal
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   Posted 3/29/2007 4:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Hiya, I did one of those surbeys at the docs and got 19/23 I'd say that was high?! I tend to clam up when I'm there as I think she will laugh at what I'm saying behind my back or think here she goes again! I am from Scotland and I don't have a clue about confidentiality rights here! I find it hard to tell her how I'm really feeling I tend to put a face on it, the only one I can relly speak to is my mum! x

els
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   Posted 3/29/2007 4:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes 19 out of 23 is high...if you feel your counselor is laughing behind your back then please get another counselor!!  You dont have to take that kind of treatment from her.  That is not professional behavior and you do not deserve to be treated that way.  If my counselor acted that way I know I wouldnt want to talk to her either.

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scotsgal
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   Posted 3/29/2007 5:38 AM (GMT -7)   
well i don't know if shes laughing at me but thats what i think, thats what I think about mostly every one except a few close friends and family! I just feel no-one believes me thats all and thats why i tend to clam up to the people who can help, and the people who don't have the answers i can yap away for hours to. I just dont know if councilling is working for me or not, I'm only getting to see her once a month too, so that kind of doesn't help with the time lapses. My councillor is nice enough but I just feel its not helping!

ShynSassy
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   Posted 3/29/2007 5:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Scotsgal,
I had to try 3 different counselors before I felt comfortable with one.
I think that might be normal because you have got to feel a connection of some sort before you are able to tell them what is going on inside of you.
Don't give up hope,see if your doctor can recommend a different one.

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Gemsi
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   Posted 3/29/2007 10:38 AM (GMT -7)   
From talking to others, I'm pretty sure confidentiality rights are the same in England. I have a few friends who go to Gartnavel hospital,so I'm going to find out at this for you. In England, if you don't want a student in the room, all you have to do is say no, and no more will be said about it. I'll fnd out and get back to you about that, although, it maytake me a couple of days.

Thinking back I've actually had 3 different Psych's. The first 2 I used to clam up with big style, luckily, both of them left, as I always felt guilty about asking for another when all they were doing were trying to help me. It's only because the one I have now is so friendly and down to earth and knows how to deal with me, depending on my facial expressions, that I can get on with her. I agree with what others have been saying, that some councillors you will get on with better than others. Maybe it is that another Coucillor would be best for you.

I know from experiance thart you have to have 100% confidence with who your talking to. Which is why you will find it easier talking to someone you know, than someone you don't. Sometimes you can guarentee the confidence is there when you first meet a person. They will make you feel safe to talk about all your worries. Just in there facial expressions and there first greeting.

Has the survey been seen by your councillor? Maybe it is good to mention that you did a survey. I'm not sure how the surveys work, as I've never personally done one.

I'll get back to you soon about the laws on student nurses, in the mean while keep your chin up chuck!

XxXxX
It's true!: Smile and the whole world smiles with you. Frown and the world turns upside down.
 Diagnosed with: Cystic Fibrosis, Asthma, ABPA, Clinical Depression, Mild liver cirrohsis, mild osteopenia. Waiting for final diagnosis on Muscular Dystrophy type symptoms.
 Allergies: Any dressing except Mepilex border. Even plasters make my skin blister. Hayfever, Tazocin, Tobromycin, Ibruprofen, Asprin, Codeine, Mirtazapine.
I have a pretty little port-a-cath on left side of chest wall


Gemsi
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   Posted 3/29/2007 11:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Ok, they were quicker than I thought.

It'snot law, but you can just trun around and say no to students if you wish.
Just tell em to stuff it and show them the door:P
It's true!: Smile and the whole world smiles with you. Frown and the world turns upside down.
 Diagnosed with: Cystic Fibrosis, Asthma, ABPA, Clinical Depression, Mild liver cirrohsis, mild osteopenia. Waiting for final diagnosis on Muscular Dystrophy type symptoms.
 Allergies: Any dressing except Mepilex border. Even plasters make my skin blister. Hayfever, Tazocin, Tobromycin, Ibruprofen, Asprin, Codeine, Mirtazapine.
I have a pretty little port-a-cath on left side of chest wall

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