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   Posted 6/30/2007 10:27 AM (GMT -6)   

Hey  Leigh Ann, I have removed your post here as it is violating forum rules....

3. No posts that attack, insult, "flame", or abuse members or guests.   Respect other members of the community and don’t belittle, make fun off, or insult another member.  Decisions about health and well-being are highly personal, individual choices.  "Flaming" and insults, however, will not be tolerated. Agree to disagree. This applies to both the forums and chat.
11. No cryptic posts.  Using cryptic messages to "skirt" the rules is not permitted.
You may have a differant view/opinion regarding another members situation in life or what they post here but, this site is for mutual support of the members.  If you cant give that to someone then please dont post to them.  Thank you ~ Elisha

Post Edited By Moderator (els) : 6/30/2007 1:32:42 PM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 6/30/2007 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Leigh Ann,

First, I'm trying to understand what she's going through and want to get feedback on what I should and shouldn't do for her.

Secondly, not all five kids are hers (we didn't plan on five). I have two from a previous marriage that are with us half the time, I adopted her two and we have a 2 1/2 year old together. The thing you may have missed (or I may not have said in the postings) is that I am the one who does the meals and the picking up after the kids and the grocery shopping and over half the laundry and I'm the breadwinner to boot. You may have also read that I'm at the end of my rope with the situation because my wife isn't exhausted, she's just not taking care of the things she needs to in order for our household to keep going. She watches TV constantly as an escape (been there before myself, so it's very obvious). She leans on the older kids to watch the 2 1/2 year old A LOT as well as my taking care of her when I'm home.

I have MANY times told her about this site and others, but she is in the place where she doesn't want to admit that there's a problem. She isn't seeking help at all. She has only "gone along" with my suggestions that she seek help. She talks to others and says that she's perfectly fine, but when we speak alone, she tells me that she isn't happy and she just doesn't see herself getting happy anytime soon and that her happiness isn't as important as everyone else's. I try and get her to see that there's more to it than that. That if she can balance it out and find something that makes her happy (a hobby, a college class, a work from home business - whatever) that she might be surprised at how her outlook could change. A happy mom and wife is a much better scenario for everyone than one who is miserable and making sure that everyone else knows it.

I have even offered for her to read my posts, but she's not ready for that yet. I haven't said anything here that she can't read.

The other thing you may be missing here (and again, I may not have said this) is that she wasn't depressed when we met. She was ecstatic that she found a guy who loved her and her kids and wasn't an ***hole (her words) to her. She said and did all of the right things. I didn't make the depression connection for easily three years. I think that it was a grass is greener situation and that once she realized that having a husband who loved her and having her and her kids taken care of didn't change the things going on in her mind, she started to slip again. That's when I started to make connections to other times in her life and her mom told me a few things as well as her friend from high school who told me that she had self-esteem issues way back then.

So, while I'm mildly offended at you saying that I'm "making myself out to be the perfect concerned husband", it really doesn't bother me. I don't care how I'm portrayed. I care about my wife, our marriage, and our family. I want to move onto a better path with her because I've been taking the "step back" approach for years and created an environment where she could thrive, but she didn't. The problems got worse until things blew up a couple of months ago. Everything is all out in the open now (we didn't talk about it before much), so I am taking advantage of that and trying to help her get to a better place. I literally can't sit around and watch her spiral further. My taking up the slack around the house (she is a stay at home mom) has caused my business to slow down, which is NOT good for our family. I have to focus more on work.


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   Posted 6/30/2007 2:03 PM (GMT -6)   
nono  Just a note~
although we may feel that someone is handling a situation or situations differently than you or I would, we must be constructive in our critizism and feedback.
we all want the best for each other on this site so it is my thought that we need not pass judgement on other's opinions or actions.
i know we are extremely passionate and caring members and that we give alot of advice from our hearts.
singer69, keep an open mind and know that we care.
" We are each of us angels with only one wing, and we can only fly by embracing one another."
Luciano de Crescenzo
" Love is being stupid together."
Paul Valery
" Tonight I sent an angel to watch over you, but it came back. When I asked why, it told me that angels don't watch over other angels."

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Date Joined Jun 2007
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   Posted 6/30/2007 2:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Teresa,

I am keeping an open mind and I do know that everyone here cares. I just was responding to the assumptions - I wasn't angry.



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   Posted 6/30/2007 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I am sorry that I wasnt able to view this thread before now. 
I dont think we have a right to judge anyone here or what they are going through.  I believe that it is a good idea for everyone not to post any longer to this thread.  It isnt conductive to what HW stands for.
Thank you

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Date Joined Feb 2007
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   Posted 6/30/2007 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   

I read your post with interest because your wife sounds like I did in my 30's. You also remind me of my dear hubby who passed last month.

When I was young I couldn't tell anyone how I felt. I felt useless and all I really wanted to do is escape. Sure I loved my hubby but I just felt so darn tired. It was more than that. I learned later I was absolutely depressed. I used to think if I was with someone else it would be different. It wasn't. we divorced but basically stayed together and then remarried.
I suggest you tell her that there is NOTHING she could say that would change your mind. But is there really? What if she told you that she didn't love you any more? Maybe in her mind she likes you but thinks she doesn't love you? I thought like that but found out that I was wrong. I was trying to rationalize to myself why I was doing everything wrong and didn't feel happy and no joy. So I figure that it had to be him. These things are hard to face. A while before my hubby passed he told me that "he never thought it could be this good with me".
I trusted him with my life and soul but it took a long time to get to that point. I know you don't think of yourself as "Mr perfect" just trying to find out how to change things. A family with children deserves to be raised in a JOYOUS family where happiness is openly shown.
One thing that I know won't work is if you place blame on her. She is always probably blaming herself for the whole world.
Good luck and don't give up on the forum you might find some way to get her into therapy and some medicine.

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Date Joined Aug 2005
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   Posted 6/30/2007 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   

I apologize to everyone who saw my original post in this string.  I was really irritated in general, and I took it out Singer69/Rick because I disagreed with some things he said in his posts.  I was not constuctive or supportive, and I apologize for that as well.  Those of you who have read my posts previously know this isn't my typical response.  I just came through a horrible family situation following my aunt's passing this week, and I was thinking through the pain of a migraine headache that just won't go away.

I am so sorry for my behavior. sad

Leigh Ann cool

Basic info:
  • On Disablility for: Chronic Migraines, serious Back and Knee problems (will need surgery eventually), moderate Depression, Anxiety/Panic disorder, TMJ 
  • Divorced, 42, no children
  • Surgeries: Gastric Bypass, Gallbladder Removed (followed by a week in the hospital for a Blood Clot), Kidney Stone Removed, Broken Ankle, Major Dental work(four molars pulled, multiple cavities, root canals) 
  • Current Meds: Lexapro, Klonopin, Wellbutrin, Migranol, Trazadone, Buspar, Nexium, Skelaxin,  Phenergan, Chantix,  Iron Pills
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 197
   Posted 6/30/2007 10:41 PM (GMT -6)   

No harm done. I understand.


Thank you for your post. That does sound a lot like my wife. She's blaming herself for everything and it's difficult to watch her go through that. I really hope that we can get to that joyous place as well - sooner than later.

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