Depression as Tough as Cancer

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veteran1
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   Posted 7/22/2007 10:16 AM (GMT -7)   
I have had major depression for over 20 years. It has kicked my butt to the point of losing jobs and a marriage and much more.
This is not a boo hoo story. On 12/03/05 I was diagnosed with stage111 prostate cancer. Psych docs in past have always tried
to find the reason or source of my depression. I could never give them a satisfactory answer. Finally, I can give docs a reason...prostate cancer! Little does my psych doc know, even though I try to explain that depression has put me in a black pit like hole that I may never get out of.
 
Prostate cancer was convenient for my family too. It is a well-known disease that is free of stigmas. My family called everyone they knew when I was diagnosed with Pca. Depression was a shameful well-guarded secret. No frantic phone calls. No asking how I was feeling. Excuse the double negative but...no nothing! I was more depressed without prostate cancer than with it. Tell people you're battling cancer and you're brave. These same people would stutter and mutter if I told them I was battling depression.
 
I have had surgery and radiation therapy for the cancer. Yet this is nothing next to the years of sheer misery inflicted upon me by depression. Cancer may kill me, but depression almost has.
 
I always post on on the prostate cancer site. I think it's time I talk to you for advice and knowledge.
 
 
All good thoughts.
 
Vet
 

Post Edited (veteran1) : 7/23/2007 8:49:02 AM (GMT-6)


Drconnoisseur
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   Posted 7/22/2007 12:29 PM (GMT -7)   

A lot of people (mostly people who haven't dealt with it themselves) can be real loons (so to speak!) about depression.  I agree with you that depression can kill you as fast or faster than many of the physical illnesses that people are so scared of.  I have been a type I diabetic for most of my life, and suffered from serious depression even longer (at least since I was 8).  For about six years I quit seeing endocrinologists for the diabetes, because I had had several very traumatic experiences with them (I won't get into that here), and I felt I could handle it myself for awhile.  Anyway, all of my GPs freaked.  They were constantly bugging me about going to see an endocrinologist, but no one EVER asked about my depression/OCD/panic attacks and seeing a psychiatrist.  And my depression was so bad, it's a wonder I'm not dead.  So I totally see your point.

I think people are such loons about depression because a.) they usually don't understand it if they've never had it, and b.) humans, as a species, have convinced themselves that they're special based on their brains.  If you define yourself as a human based on your mental powers, then anything that affects your brain will be taboo.  That's my theory, anyway.  Along those same lines, prostate cancer may affect your life, but it doesn't usually change who you are as a person in any major way.  (I realize all experiences affect us, but we're still basically the same people afterwards.)  Any kind of mental illness usually does change who we are at a more fundamental level, though.  So while I think it's stupid that it's so taboo, given that it affects so many people, and is just as physical as so-called physical illnesses, those are my theories as to why.  Not that you asked... tongue

I wish you luck and strength in your struggles with both the prostate cancer and the depression, and hope you get better soon.


29 yo female with two fuzzy children: a Pom named Snuggles and a Pom mix named PomPom.
Health History: Type I diabetes (19 years), allergies/asthma, hypothyroidism, osteopenia & multiple fractures, iron-deficiency anemia, Crohn's (of course), and depression (go figure.)
Crohn's History:  May have had it since I was 11 (1988-89), definitely have had it since I was 15, was diagnosed when I was 25 (2003), was un-diagnosed in 2005 and re-diagnosed June 2007.   


slowlygoingcrazy
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   Posted 7/22/2007 5:05 PM (GMT -7)   
As you can see from my signature, I totally agree with you. I've never had cancer, hope I never do but who knows what the future holds, but I see how people react to people with cancer or other such diseases and they are offered support and understanding. When you say you have depression, people just think you're being a cry baby and that you should just find a way to deal with it and get over it. So people tend to leave you rather than support you. So I totally get what you mean. I wish you luck in your battles, mental and physical.....

slowlygoingcrazy
 It would be easier to tell people I have cancer than it is to tell them I am severely depressed.....


stkitt
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   Posted 7/22/2007 5:22 PM (GMT -7)   

Hello Veteran 1, Welcome to the A & P Forum

"Depression is a mood disorder", according to many descriptions of the illness. That is a flagrant understatement. Depression does indeed seriously affect your mood, but that is just the tip of the iceberg. A clinical depression is a debilitating illness, affecting your capacity to perform tasks that require concentration and rendering you unable to work.

The blues—at some point or other everyone deals with them, be it following a stressful day at work or after a conflict with a loved one.
 
IMO people that have not experienced depression believe we just have the blues and we can just get over it. To say you have depression is like saying your crazy and people remember the locked wards where people were sent that could not function in the real world.
 
You are right Veteran, it is more acceptable to the general public to have cancer than a Mental Health Illness. I have had depression for 25 years. I only told a few people...............the others I was afraid to tell.  How sad is that?
 
I wish you the best and please keep posting.
Respectfully
Kitt
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janetlee
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   Posted 7/22/2007 6:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi V1,
I've never had cancer, but I do totally agree with what you've said! No one would dream of telling a loved one to "Snap out of it" in regards to cancer, but let i t be depression and/or anxiety and that's what they'll say sometimes!!!! If we could, don't they think we would?!?!?!?!!
I love my Mom with all my heart, but if I'm physically sick, she tends to be more empathetc than when I'm dealing with my GAD and depression. Of course, since she's had a bad experience with being depressed and anxious from having an enclosed cast on her leg for a week (she felt claustrophobic and miserable in it!), she seems to be a lot more empathetic!
Anyway, I wish you the very best and hate it that you're having to deal with 2 major illnesses! I'm sending hugs your way! Wish I could do more...don't we all?!
hugs
janet
Yesterday's dead
Tomorrow's unknown
Today is here
And soon will be gone.
Use it wisely
Before it's too late
Remember to love
And forget to hate.
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veteran1
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   Posted 7/23/2007 8:08 AM (GMT -7)   

Thank you for your kind and helpful responses. I have read them all and will do the same with additional replys. I didn't think I knew enough about my 20 year depression to post at this site. Thank you for you're caring and warm advice. I will definitely continue to post on this site. Depression is a chronic illness that I have avoided talking much about. Having you wonderful people is proving to be a tremendous help to me.

 

All Good Thoughts,

 

Vet

 

stkitt
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   Posted 7/23/2007 8:19 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey Vet,

We are glad you joined us and keep posting.  With 20 years of depression experience you know a lot about this disease, you have lived it and continue to live it.

Gentle Hugs

Kitt


Respectfully
Kitt
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shashidhar1234
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   Posted 7/31/2007 2:36 AM (GMT -7)   
hi there i m confused that is sound therapy healing is complete treatment for depression or not plz help me











I have edited your post due to rule #4 again. I am not sure if you are actually asking for advice on this technique..if you are you can do it without posting a link to your website.

Please review the rules here:
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=46&m=106997

Post Edited By Moderator (ShynSassy) : 7/31/2007 5:38:09 AM (GMT-6)


ShynSassy
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   Posted 7/31/2007 4:35 AM (GMT -7)   
shashidhar

I suggest starting a new topic and asking for advice on this technique as your post may be overlooked.


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