Lifestyle changes to treat depression

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sophieWVU
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   Posted 11/13/2007 7:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all,
 
I'm usually in the IBS forum but haven't been on in a while.  I struggle with Depression/Generalized Anxiety Disorder and recently have found myself back in that old trap (just decided to change career paths and had to drop out of vet school in Grenada...now home doing nothing till grad school starts this Spring...boredom is a big trigger for me).  I've decided this time to avoid the SSRI route (just a personal choice).  I figured though lifestyle changes/natural remedies has probably been talked about to death, we could all use a reminder of what we should be doing day to day anyway, on meds or not.  Thoughts anyone?
 
I'm working on getting back into an exercise routine and trying to eat healthier.  Now taking some supplements, trying to talk to as many friends as possible (hard being at home and everyone else is in school), avoiding negative people/situations, giving myself enough time whenever I need to be somewhere....what else???
 
Also thinking about joining a support group (I love this forum, but face to face interaction can't be beat).  It's hard to discuss depression with people who don't get it...they either get weirded out or tell you to snap out of it.

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   Posted 11/13/2007 10:25 PM (GMT -7)   

sohpie,

Good for you, your attitude will take you far.  I think you said it all very well and I agree many do not know how to respond to us when we bring up depression.  They walk on eggshells as they are uncomfortable.

A face to face support group for you is a splendid idea. You go for it.

Respectfully

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   Posted 11/14/2007 12:49 PM (GMT -7)   

I agree with Kitt. You have got a great attitude and you are an inspiration to everyone. I hope you get on great.

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Sadsong
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   Posted 11/18/2007 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Sophia,

It sounds like you're on the right track!  Eating healthy, regular exercise, surrounding yourself with postive people who support you - I can't think of anything else!  Do you have any hobbies that you enjoy?  Or is there something that you like to do, but didn't have enough time to pursue it while in school?  If so, this would be a great opportunity to pick it up again and would probably alievate any boredom too!  Keep us posted!  Best of luck!  


lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/19/2007 8:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello, I am new to this site!  I am wondering if acupuncture might be helpful!  It is very relaxing!  My husband is coming off Prozac and is suffering from withdrawl.  I have made him an appointment for acupuncture.  Does anyone have any info on this to share?

ShynSassy
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   Posted 11/20/2007 6:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Love
Welcome to the forum.
I have heard that acupuncture is very helpful,but have never experienced it myself.
I suggest starting a new thread that way you get more responses to your question.


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lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/20/2007 7:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much for the information. I will try to start a new thread!

rolltide
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   Posted 11/21/2007 4:53 PM (GMT -7)   
CBT is a better way to go than accupuncture, in my unprofessional opinion.

The main thing is to learn to quiet the mind and listen to your conscience-- it's trying to communicate to you, but most of us drown it out with food, drugs, booze, arguments, etc.

lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/22/2007 8:54 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry, I am not familiar with CBT. What is it? Also, what is your profession? Your description sounds perfect to what we need. My husband claims he needs to be "away" to think, but in his depressive mind state due to the Prozac withdraw, it is very hard for him to think. Also, he is holding much anger and resentment for me - although he is not sure why. THis is all so unlike him that I think I am going crazy. Maybe I could use CBT?

Thanks so much for your input!

Kathy

starbrite
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   Posted 11/22/2007 2:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Kathy

CBT is cognitive behavior therapy or sometimes called talk therapy. You do it with a trained therapist and it is very effective when done right. It probably won't hurt for the two of you to go into therapy together too, because hubby needs to find out why he has so much hidden anger and resentment for you. Just wondering why he is going off Prozac and if he is trying to do it alone without a doctors help? Some people take them for life and need to take them for livfe. Going off anti-depression meds is serious business and when you go off them to fast there are a lot of problems that could arise without a doctor weining you off. Keep talking I am here to listen

Star

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   Posted 11/22/2007 5:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Star! I currently have a therapist and my husband is looking into one. Hopefully, we will eventually be able to go together but not at this point. He is coming off of Prozac because he had serious side effects. His whole personality changed. His self perception was off. His exercise hit manic proportions. Most distrubing is that he lost his feelings. This is called emotional blunting! He finally described his life as being in "lala land" without much concern for anybody or anything. He seemed very absorbed with himself though! This is extremly unlike my husband. I have basically been living with a stranger! I have read Dr. Peter Breggin's book about psychotic drugs, their effects and the dangers involved with withdrawl! We did see a psychiatrist who told him he would probably not have any problems and she referred him to a therapist. Of course, when I disagreed, he agreed with the Dr. I knew better and at this point have spent many hours researching and trying to help him. Now, I know we probably did not withdraw slow enough. At this point he is very, very depressed and anxious. His thoughts are all jumbled up in his mind. He is very tired all the time. He knows he is ill. He just wants to be left alone. He is anxious to see a therapist. I have mentioned to him all I know about this drug/withdraw and its suicide potentials. He absolutly promises me that suicide is not at all possible. And if he even thought about it one time, I would be the first to know. I tried my best to make him realize that his brain in no longer "his" under these conditions. He is so down, that it breaks my heart. We have been married 14 years. He has always been a great husband. My friends always tell me how jealous they are. We have 3 children - 11, 6, 4! He is a firefighter and I believe when he was put on Prozac for anxiety and aggrevation, I now believe he was just seriously sleep deprived. Prozac has ruined our lives!!! I just want to help him any way that I can to get through this. We can deal with our marriage later!

starbrite
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   Posted 11/22/2007 6:33 PM (GMT -7)   
O. K. I'm not a professional but I think one of the first things you should do is see a different psychiatrist and get your hubby on some kind of meds to help take the edge off the withdrawal. Also he should see a therapist because even through he says you would be the first to know about suicide thoughts if he really wants to do it he will not even tell you. Believe me I am talking from experience having once landed in the hospital because of a suicide attempt. I too had promised my hubby and my therapist that if I had any thoughts like that I would tell them, but I didn't. I know what having a great husband is like because I have one and would be very concerned if his personality changed as drastically as your husbands has. I really don't think that you can do this alone, have you talked to your therapist about it. What did she/he say?

Sophie
How's it all working out? I have been thinking about going off meds too but right now I don't have the nerve. Exercise is great I just started at the gym last April and I all ready feel better. I find that staying away from negative people is a big thing, I even had to end a friendship because she was so negitive when ever I was with her I came home depressed. One other thing about exercise you get to know all the people who exercise at the same time as you and they become friends. Let me know how you are making out. Star

lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/22/2007 7:02 PM (GMT -7)   
My therapist is trying to teach me what he is going through and how I can help by changing my attitude. It is not easy! She says she understands the withdraw, but I doubt that she truly does. My husband is not going to see the therapist he was seeing. She did not understand what he was going through with the meds, she just wanted to psyho analyze him. Heck, he is not even him right now. I am realizing how hard it is to find someone that truly understands this. In fact, I haven't yet. I did give my husband his pills and told him to take one if he felt he needed to. He really is determined that if he can help it... not to. I did worry about him re-taking after all this time off. It just scared me know how much this med messes with the brain. His Primary Care Physician was clueless about his first symptom and denied it as a problem. So he is no help. I am going to call Dr. Breggins office in NY. He only takes local clients, but I am hoping he may be able to give some advice over the phone about this withdraw and the point that we are at. I figure the only thing he can do is not help me, I am desperate and it is worth a try. I am doing so well at handling all of this. I end up emotional and crying, yelling over something stupid he says. It is sooooo bazar! There have been positive things. He at least does have some feelings. He actually could cry and felt sadness. For as "HIGH" as Prozac made him, he is now crashing. It sounds like you have had a rough road as well. I am sorry you are talking from experience. It must have been very bad and a very dark time for you. Do you think you meds are working well? Why do you want off your meds? Where you on meds when you made your attempt? Sorry if too nosey. I have just learned sooooo much about this. Probably too much. I understand they can be very helpful for some. My brother is one that the benefits out weigh the side effects.

Kathy

lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/22/2007 7:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Sophie:  I don't know what your situation is in regards to health insurance, but have you considered trying acupuncture?  It is very relaxing and I understand it can be effective for depression and things of that nature.  My husband is giving it a chance during his SSRI withdraw.  He is very down.  Did you stop you SSRI and how did it go for you?
 
Kathy

sophieWVU
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   Posted 11/22/2007 10:07 PM (GMT -7)   
well...I was getting ready to start it right but then was hit with this horrible OCD that caused me panic attacks (went to ER yesterday).  They gave me ativan to get me through till Monday when I'll start an SSRI (not sure which yet).  This hit me out of now where, and the obsessions are horrific and leave me ready to commit myself.  So once I get on my feet with the meds, I can start doing all I can to live better.  So far no alcohol, caffiene, and taking zinc, fish oil, and B vitamins.  And talk talk talking with all my close friends and family helps.  Other than that not ending up in the ER daily is the goal.  I'l love to try acupuncutre at some point.  Thanks!

starbrite
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   Posted 11/23/2007 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi could someone tell me how accupuncture helps depression. I have used it for back ache and it worked but I can't figure out how it would help for depression. If it does work I would try it. Sophie I have a friend that has OCD and it is debilitating sometimes for her. Do SSRI help with OCD she's not on any and if it works i would like to tell her about it. What does the ativan do?

Kathy
Yes I was taking anti-depression meds when I overdosed and while I was in the hospital they also put me on anther one so I was on two separate ones. That seemed to help. The only reason I would like to go off them is because I have been on them for so long and they cost so much money even with insurance. My therapist says I will probably be on them for life because of a chemical inbalance in my brain and depression runs in the family. Primary care docs don't usually know much about anti-depression meds they usually give too much or too little. Don't give up on therapist I went through four before I found the one I have now that is excellent.

lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/23/2007 1:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Star: Before you decide to do anything, go get the book " Your Drug May Be Your Problem" By Dr. Peter Breggin. Read it from cover to cover. I have a couple of times. I have found this to be the only place to get the real information about these drugs. It is ironic that you said after your overdose that they placed you another med in addition to the one you were already on. It is classic and you can find more about how physican, therapists, the drug industry and so forth operate. It is astonishing! You know your situation better than anyone however, I urge you to also listen to those around you (even if you are not liking what they are saying) These type of meds make one believe they are better than ever, when actually they really are not. It is call Anosognosia or "spellbinding". My husband went through this. This book will also tell you how to plan and execute your withdraw. Like you said, it is serious business so take your time and do all of your research and listen to those around you!

lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/23/2007 1:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Dare: I did Google SCENAR! Interesting stuff! It seems similar to accupuncture. What has your experience been with this treatment? With SSRI withdraw, the brain that is overloaded with Seratonin is trying to recover. In the process you "Crash". My own brain is getting all of this medical stuff mixed up, but is it the neuropeptites that help move that seratonin? I going to my book now.....I remember something about neuropeptides. Thanks for any information.

Kathy

lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/23/2007 2:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you so much! I will check it out. I need to learn more about this diet thing. My husband drinks a lot of coffee and I am sure that is not helping his withdraw. Just adding to the crash.

Kathy

lovelaughlive
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   Posted 11/23/2007 3:52 PM (GMT -7)   
I will do that! It is good information that I am glad to receive. Thank you!

Kathy

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   Posted 11/24/2007 3:56 PM (GMT -7)   
I met a lady today who gave me great information about homeopathy! I am very excited. SHe was very encouraging about the possibilities of this type of help for my husband. It is accupressure!! I will let you know what happens!

Keep the advice coming!!!!!

Kathy

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   Posted 2/1/2008 10:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Kathy I am sorry I didn't check back here sooner but I am glad someone filled in for me and gave you some CBT info. First of all I am not a medical professional. I work in sales. In my opinion CBT is much better than traditional talk therapy because they teach you how to help yourself and give you tools like the TEA form exercise that you use long after you finish therapy to manage your anxiety. Other than a few lapses when I got lazy it has been a God send for me. If you can't find a good CBT therapist read the book titled Been There Done that? Do This! by Sam Obitz. It's a short book and focusses on the TEA which is what has given me most of my relief.
I know this is probably too little too late but as for coming off of prozac I would say reduce it much slower than any doctor recommends and ideally I would learn CBT first so you have something to fall back on while you are coming off. That's what I did and I don't think I would have managed without. Take good care.

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   Posted 2/4/2008 8:22 PM (GMT -7)   
There is an online FREE Cognitive behaviourial Therapy that I and many others have had great success with ........

If interested post and I am sure one of us can put the link there for you .......
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   Posted 2/4/2008 10:38 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Sophie,

I think you are doing all the right things.  Is there a place where you could walk, it is so therapeudic and also good exercise.

I think the support group thing is cool.  It is good to interact with people that can understand you.  If it is time you are trying to fill, volunteering somewhere that would be helping others could be quite gratifying and will make you feel good about yourself. 

When you start your supplements, throw some vitamen D in there, make sure that it says Choleccalciforel on the back.  This really helps me with depression.  I started taking it for fibromyalgia, but it lifts my mood and seems to give energy.  I take about 2000iu each day. 

You are doing really good and I hope that it continues for you.

hugs,

Karen


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bigbear
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   Posted 2/5/2008 4:47 PM (GMT -7)   
CBT and the TEA forms are what have helped me and you may want to try the free on-line place Lyn mentioned. If it's free it's for me :)
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