diet question - carb help please

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Beth75
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   Posted 3/3/2008 1:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I finally found some low sodium tomato soup at Trader Joes only 140mg of sodium per cup.....however I noticed after I bought it that the carbs on there are 15g and sugars 8g per cup. 
 
My Doc said not to eat refined carbs, such as breads, cakes, cookies etc.  But I am now also nervous about eating this soup.  It's organic soup and I can pronounce all the ingredients......I know a slice of bread has about the same carbs?
 
Are there any guidelines about how much carbs are ok from veggies and stuff or is it all too all over the place and depending on the individual?
 
Also, I fell off the wagon, hard yesterday and had ice cream and chips.........I feel terrible about it but am back on the wagon again.
 
Will be doing labs on 3/6 and seeing Doc on 3/13
Beth, 32
Major Flare Sept/Oct 07 ~ no blood since Dec 07 ~ almost normal bm
UC dx'd March 2000 (30 cenitmeters as of 2005-proctosigmoiditis)
Azathioprine 200mg 1xday nightly; Calcium and Vit D 500mg 3xday, Multi Vit, Folic Acid 400mg 2xday, Probiotics.
Minimal Change Disease (Kidney Disorder) dx'd Sept 2007
Prednisone 40mg 1xday, Simvastatin 20mg 1xday, Diovan 160mg 2xday. Tekturna 150mg 1xday, Fursomide 20mg 1xday.  Potassium 100mg 2xday, Fosomax 70mg 1xweek. MCD may be from hypersensitivty to 5ASA drugs.


fergusc
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   Posted 3/4/2008 7:31 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Beth,

Well, you're very lucky to have found a sensible doctor! Cutting out the refined carbs is absolutely the right thing to do, but it's astonishing how many medical dudes seem not to realise it.

As for the veggie question, you're right that we all react slightly differntly to different foods and the only reliable approach is to test to see how they effect you. Having said that, the consensus here and elsewhere is to be very cautious about the starchy vegetables such as carrots and parsnips, and give the potatoes a wide berth if you can!

Welcome back aboard the wagon, though!

All the best,

fergusc


Jeannie143
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   Posted 3/8/2008 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Beth,
If you read the ingredients on that soup they probably added sweeteners or thickeners to make it and it boosted the carb levels. I'd use it to make chili or meatloaf to spread the carb load.

I like to buy canned tomatoes with peppers and onions and run them thru the blender to make soup. Lots of tomato flavor, low carb and I toss in a bloop of cream to make it rich. Yum! Not fast to make like canned soup but better for me. Also, unless you are on a specific low sodium regimen as ordered by a doctor you don't need to pay a premium for low sodium foods. My nephrologist told me that the low sodium thing is usually only for dialysis patients or peeps with congestive heart failure. He told me to get rid of ankle swelling by swimming and walking. I started doing it and found him to be right. Might work for you.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
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"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


Texas Stranger
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   Posted 3/8/2008 10:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Beth,
What kind of cream do you use? That does sound yummy.

tutorgirl
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   Posted 3/9/2008 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Beth, I have a problem with any tomato products...tomato soup, spaghetti sauce, salsa. They all tend to raise my bs. I would suggest giving it a try, but test first and then an hour or two after you eat it to see how it effects you sugar. As fergusc said, every body reacts differently.
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 3/10/2008 12:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Heavy cream, whipping cream or even sour cream. Calcium plus fat to help you absorb the vitamin A in the tomatoes. Your body has difficulty absorbing fat soluble vitamins unless there is fat present. In looking through my Calorie King Nutrition logs I find that one medium tomato has less than 5 gm of carb but the minute you go to salsa, tomato soup or sauces it jumps anywhere from 18 to 35 gms. per serving depending upon how much sugar or modified food starch (read corn starch) is added. This is why I like to make my own from real canned tomatoes. Regular canned tomatoes are just as low as fresh when it comes to carbs. I eat them from the can as a snack. Sprinkle a little basil over 'em. Yum!
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


Beth75
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   Posted 3/11/2008 12:50 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks Jeanne for the recipie, I really like sour cream so I think I will try to make soup this weekend.

My Nephrologist said that the low sodium 1500mg a day will help my kidney's rest/heal and help swelling in my ankle's, calves and face.  Unfotunately, I have had edema for 7 years and I used to be able to exercise and have the swelling go down but not since I started pred in Sept, I have been working out 3 to 5 times a week (elliptical and treadmill) for the last month since I got my uc flare under control and unless I take my diruetic every day then I can barely get my shoes on and is hard to walk.  The working out does help.


Beth, 32
Major Flare Sept/Oct 07 ~ almost in remission
UC dx'd March 2000 (30 cenitmeters as of 2005-proctosigmoiditis)
Azathioprine 200mg 1xday nightly; Calcium and Vit D 500mg 3xday, Multi Vit, Folic Acid 400mg 2xday, Prilosec, Probiotics.
Minimal Change Disease (Kidney Disorder) dx'd Sept 2007
Prednisone 40mg 1xday, Simvastatin 20mg 1xday, Diovan 160mg 2xday. Tekturna 150mg 1xday, Fursomide 20mg 1xday, Fosomax 70mg 1xweek. MCD may be from hypersensitivty to 5ASA drugs.
Pre-Diabetic from Prednisone use - Low carb/sugar diet & exercise.


Jeannie143
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   Posted 3/12/2008 7:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Well by all means, listen to your nephro because that's the person with the paper on the wall! tongue This summer, you might want to grow your own tomatoes in the garden. I like to freeze the excess in large plastic bags (like billiard balls!) and thaw them a few at a time as I need them. Much easier than canning. I just pick em, wash em, and core out the stem and pop them into the freezer. They don't need blanching or anything and the flavor is superior to canned. I throw a few in a bowl, stick them into the microwave and cook them a bit, into the blender and then back to the microwave. Also, as you thaw them the skins will slip right off (if you don't like the fiber of the skins). I leave the seeds because they add good fiber to the diet.

I know how rough this is with the UC and pred. Hang in there, girlfriend. Oh, and have you tried prenatals? My daughter's crohns went into remission since she has been on prenatals for having a baby. They have lots of omega 3's, increased vitamin D and calcium in them. Worth a try?
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross

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