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kelpie
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   Posted 4/4/2008 1:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I found this site inadvertently and after checking it out decided to join. It seems like a good place for information. I was dx in Nov. 2006. I take medformin and glyburide twice a day. My biggest concern is weight loss. I dropped 30lbs within the first six months but I suppose that was from not eating chocolate and junk anymore. Now no matter what I try I con not seem to lose any more and I still should lose at least another 40lbs. I walk every where since I don't own a car but that doesn't help. I was recently told I have diabetic neopathy. Not sure what that means but am taking gabapentin for it. Any suggestions on losing weight?

Pin Cushion
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   Posted 4/5/2008 4:17 AM (GMT -7)   
It can be a catch 22. When you get your diabetes under control your body process what you eat unlike before when what you eat just goes right through. Now if you over eat and don’t get enough exercise it turns to fat.
Everything you eat and do has to now be taken into consideration. I know this can sound like a daunting task and that is why so many of us fail at it at times. For me I do a 6/1 program. 6 days a week I maintain a tight control and one day a week I reward myself with something extra or a treat.

Diabetic neuropathy, a common complication of diabetes, is damage to the nerves that allow you to feel sensations such as pain.
The areas of the body most commonly affected by diabetic peripheral neuropathy are the feet and legs. Nerve damage in the feet can result in a loss of foot sensation, increasing your risk of foot problems. Injuries and sores on the feet may go unrecognized due to lack of sensation. Therefore, you should practice proper skin and foot care.
In most cases, early symptoms will become less when blood glucose is under control.
Work with your doctor to keep your blood glucose under tight control and examine your feet and legs daily and wear properly fitting footwear and wear them all the time to prevent foot injury.
Welcome to our little corner of the web.Hang in there it is worth it, and post any time you have any questions or thoughts and here.


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LanieG
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   Posted 4/5/2008 7:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome to the Forum, kelpie.  I hope you can find the help and information that you need here.  I think you're right about the initial weight-loss being the result of change of diet and probably because of your blood sugar control with the meds.  For some reason, there'll be a plateau and it's frustrating.  At this point, I think you could jump-start another loss by changing some more of the diet and adding an exercise routine.  If you follow a lower-carb diet than you're doing now and do some daily exercise (if you're not or changing what you do if you are), you'll most likely see more results.  Since carbs build fat in the body, if you lower your intake, you'll see a difference not only in blood sugar but in weight loss.  Cut out the obvious ones first:  bread, cereal, potatoes, corn.  Then, see if there's a difference in your blood sugar.  You'll need to monitor that since you're on meds, so be careful.  Since you walk a lot, you might add some strength-training like lifting weights.  You don't have to go to a gym:  if you can't buy dumb bells, use canned goods.  Check online for strength building exercises to do in the house.  Try stomach crunches, lunges, marching in place with high steps, etc.  Look back through our past topics here for eating tips, too.  Let us know how it goes, ok?

Lanie
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diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds


Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/5/2008 8:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Kelpie, (I love your screen name!)
Let me add my welcome to the list. You probably are just going thru an adjustment stage and the weight thing is just as Lanie said. I don't own a scale myself. Weigh myself at the YMCA when I go to swim. It's more about choices for each food I eat... I can't let my happiness be ruled by that darned box on the floor anymore. I just do my best and that's all I can do.

Sounds like you are doing the same. Just KOKO (Keep on keepin' on...) and we will be here to trade ideas for staying on track. Reading back in the posts will really give you a shot in the arm and increase your knowledge base on this disease. We have lots of smart cookies who like to share.

Take care!
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
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kelpie
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   Posted 4/5/2008 8:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I appreciate your welcome. Perhaps a little more info might help.I never in all my 56 years have eaten breakfast or lunch. I used to go to the gym 3 times a week. I was in a car accident in 1985 and damaged my knees, my shoulders and my spine so goodbye gym.
gradually over the years the weight built up. Now I get shots in my shoulders so that I can move my arms and even with the shots I can't raise my arm above my shoulders. Walking is fine but if I sit too long my knees lock up.
My md said I don't have to change my eating habits just change what I eat but that doesn't seem logical. I have to force myself to eat three meals and 2 snacks a day and sometimes I gag on the food trying to eat it.
I love eating a large salad for dinner and not much else. I read all i can and understand very little of what i read.
Just as an aside the name 'kelpie' is celtic for a mischievous water sprite. confused
and this too shall pass


gelchick
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   Posted 4/5/2008 9:26 AM (GMT -7)   
kelpie
 
If I ate 3 meals and 2 snacks a day, I'd weigh 500 pounds. The diabetes dietitian tried to get me to eat like that- and I did try it- and I gained weight.
I generally eat 2-3 times a day, no snacks. I always eat breakfast because I have Dawn Phenomenon and I have to stop it with food. After that, I eat when I'm hungry. It works fine- I am losing weight slowly, my sugar is under control, and I don't have to chronically plan what I'm going to eat next- My doctor is okay with it as long as I don't let myself get overhungry and eat garbage. If I am eating correctly, I don't get hungry naturally for 5-6 hours.
 
I do eat lower carb, and exercise every day. Usually breakfast is my largest meal of the day, lunch is smaller, and dinner is smallest if at all (a bowl of soup, maybe). I always have food in the fridge for my husband- who prefers to eat at different time intervals than I do- it works out fine. We breakfast together. If he's having dinner and I'm not hungry, I have a cup of tea and talk with him. My kids eat like this too and both of them are normal weighted with little effort even though my whole family carries the obesity gene.
 
I think success depends on eating smallish meals, when we do eat, rather than eating one or two large meals which would put alot of strain on the body coping with a huge carb/protein insulin rush.
 
Good luck with your weight loss.
sandy
I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


LanieG
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   Posted 4/5/2008 1:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Sandy, I'm glad you say that you eat when you're hungry.  It's probably a no-brainer "to eat only when you're hungry" but I guess we all grew up being taught that we have to eat 3 distinct meals a day and that meals should be "balanced".  I think I found it a hard sell to realize we don't have to eat like that or that dinner had to have a piece of meat, 2 vegetables and some kind of starch.  One of the biggest changes (and challenges) in the last year and a half for me was my new understanding of this.  When was it that cereal or toast became breakfast food?  Anyway, now, if I don't eat eggs in some form, I eat a leftover piece of meat or chicken from the night before with a cheese puff.  And I absolutely agree on food overload.  I think the body does better with smaller meal portions.  When I don't overwhelm myself with a huge meal, I feel better and my blood sugar is always in better control. 

Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds


gelchick
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   Posted 4/5/2008 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Lanie

Growing up, the meals my mother put on the table were exactly as you describe- meat, potatoes, green vegetable, yellow vegetable and dessert. There was a lot of pressure about starving kids in Africa too- I never could understand how my eating everything in sight made them less hungry. I was never a 3 meal, after school snack, after dinner snack person- I was too busy playing and running around to think about food- I was always very overweight despite this- as are all of my cousins and 1 of my brothers- the other has the tendency but never lets up in the control.

I was scared into eating the 3 + 2 by the dietitian after my diagnosis. I truly thought I could make my situation worse by not doing so- but it was torture. I know it's recommended so that you don't get overhungry and overeat, or so that you are less susceptible to carb cravings or emotional eating- but I wasn't, and don't.

For me the big thing is taking metformin with food- and I do- I take it with my two largest meals and before bed for my DP control with a glasss of low carb, unsweetneed soymilk-

I think that spacing my meals further apart has helped me continue to lose weight. Some biochemists (the leptin guys) contend that for the first 3-4 hours after you eat, you live off the energy from that meal- then you start to consume your energy reserves (fat) until you eat again. If that's true, then spacing your meals by 5-6 hours makes good sense if you're trying to lose weight. You get to burn a little between meals witout provoking a starvation response, and overnight while you sleep- provided you're not eating midnight snacks which throws off the natural rhythm of the leptin.

This makes so much sense in my case- I've been trying to implement the 5 principles of leptin regulation for the past month and think I am seeing an improvement. The first biggie- is that I was actually AWARE of being TRULY hungry for the first time in years, maybe ever. My mother used to say she could feed me dirt and I wouldn't refuse it because I was always hungry even as a baby-

The second- is that I stop eating as soon as I feel the edge of my hunger leaving- I actually eat less than the prescribed portion sizes of proteins- we'll see if it lasts :-)

sandy



I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


LanieG
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   Posted 4/5/2008 6:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Sandy, the pressure in our house to clean up our plate was "the starving Armenians" (although that was during my mother's childhood but we didn't know that...).  Anyway, I think I see a lot of new members here who become confused with the conflicting dietary advice they get from their doctors, dieticians and what they read here.  I remember being one of them until I realized what worked and what didn't with me.  This is really a disease that affects different people in different ways.    

Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds


ScooterFL
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   Posted 4/6/2008 4:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I was raised the same way... Don't dare let food go to waste. It was a very tough habit to break as an adult. My ex used to pack my lunch for work usually leftovers from the night before. Most days it was enough food to feed 2 or 3  people. Now I pay close attention to portion control. Since I have been diagnosed about 2 months ago I have started eating breakfast again. After skipping it for 20 years. I actualy feel better, and I have been loosing weight. Down 15 pounds from 2 months ago, only 40 more to go. I am still working through the diet and have been taking notes on what not to eat to maintain better sugar control. I attribute my problems to not eating proper for so many years. Only eating 1 or 2 meals a day and overeating when I did eat. My body has been living in starvation mode, which wreaks havoc on my metablolism.

kelpie
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   Posted 4/6/2008 6:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I know my mother used to tell us about the starving children in China. I remember having to sit at the table until I had cleaned my plate which sometimes was as late as 8 pm because I didn't like boiled carrots. I just received the Aitkins diet book so I will try that after I read it. I heard it works well. But I still don't know what to do about exercise. Considering both my knees are damaged, as well as my shoulders and upper spine from the car accident. Recently I was told that I need carpel tunnel surgery on both wrists. Sure does make it difficult to lift weights or jog or ride a bike.
Any suggestions on an exercise regime?
and this too shall pass


ceebee
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   Posted 4/6/2008 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I was used to eating one meal a day at about 4pm. With the pred and diabetes, if I don't eat something in the morning when I take the pred, my bg goes up. Just some greek yogurt or egg beaters keep it in check. I have to force it down as I am not hungry then. We'll see how it goes when I am off the pred.

tutorgirl
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   Posted 4/7/2008 7:30 AM (GMT -7)   
kelpie, Let me add my welcome to the forum. I just want you to understand one thing...we all struggle with the effects of this disease. We all struggle constantly to try to maintain the habits that will help us live a long good quality of life. But most of us at times stumble. And then we have to start again. Just keep coming here for support. It's a great place to find it.
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>Karen<
~Forum Moderator/Diabetes~


gelchick
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   Posted 4/7/2008 8:05 AM (GMT -7)   

kelpie

If you go to www.chairdancing.com you'll find aerobic, toning, and yoga exercises that can all be done while seated in a chair. There is a demo. I have all three. I use them when I travel and there is no gym in the hotel. I use them at home when I need an eye break from the computer. They have two different levels and you can skip anything that might make your joints hurt too much.

sandy


I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


LanieG
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   Posted 4/7/2008 8:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi kelpie, I think the Atkins would give you a good boost on losing the weight.  You can always adjust it to your own style after you see just how it helps the weight come off.  about the exercise: maybe you should consult with your doctor who could prescribe work with a therapist for your conditions, i.e. therapy that won't hurt your joints/bones while you can get the exercise needed.  Since you have spine damage from the car accident, I would be very careful, then, engaging in any exercise without talking to your doctor first.  But about the diet:  Atkins, Bernstein and other low or no-carb diets help keep blood sugar controlled and that in turn helps us lose weight which in turn helps keep blood sugar controlled; it's all connected.  I also found that lower carb food controls the appetite really well. 



Lanie
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diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds


kelpie
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Date Joined Apr 2008
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   Posted 4/7/2008 8:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for all the suggestions. I did check out the chair dancing site and it would appear that I could do most of the routines. I will give it a try and let you know how it works out.
Thank you again.
Katie
and this too shall pass


Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/7/2008 9:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Kelpie,
I swim at the YMCA in the heated pool. Kick board, back stroke, dog paddle, nothing fancy, just back and forth for about 30 minutes. Sometimes I warm up for part of the 30 minutes just walking back and forth thru the water. Resistance without all the weight on my knees and back. Might work for you.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


kelpie
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   Posted 4/7/2008 1:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes I thought of that except that I live in a small town that does not have a Y and I don't own a car to travel to one.I always liked to swim. scool
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