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ciaran's dad
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   Posted 6/23/2008 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   
i have type 2 & high cholestral. my b.p. is fine (so far) i have noticed an elevated heart rate, but no shortness of breath. i have a history in my family of both diabetes & heart disease.
some time ago i stopped taking gloucophage & my cholestral meds.
 this is stupid but i got tired of hearing bad news at my dr. office. i found it hard to stick with a diet. i did have tingling in my hand but that has stopped i was taking care of my self for about a year but stopped.
i have an appt. this week with a new dr. because
i really want to change.
is/has anyone gone thru this?
what did you do?

singing butterflies
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   Posted 6/23/2008 9:31 PM (GMT -7)   
TO CIARAN'S DAD, I TOO HAVE TYPE 2 DIABETES AND HIGH CHOLESTRAL, AND THOUGH YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED ANY OTHER SYMPTOMS, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT HAPPENING. IT IS DIFFICULT TO WANT TO STAY ON A CERTAIN DIET AND SOMETIMES EVEN HARDER TO TAKE THE MEDS THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO TAKE. IF YOU STICK WITH THE MEDS AND THE DIET ALONG WITH EXCERISE YOU WILL START GETTING GOOD NEWS FROM YOUR DOCTOR. IT IS BASICALLY UP TO YOU. DON'T WAIT TO LONG TO MAKE YOUR DECISION BECAUSE IT WILL BECOME HARDER ON YOU. I AM SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE. I AM PRACTICING WHAT I AM PREACHING, HOWEVER, I STILL DO FIND IT HARD TO STICK WITH AT TIMES.

ciaran's dad
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   Posted 6/24/2008 8:34 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks Singing Butterflies!

I REALLY AM GOING TO BUCK UP & TAKE CARE OF THIS. I WANT TO GET RID OF THIS TYPE 2 AND GET OFF MEDS FOR BOTH THE CHOLESTRAL & TYPE 2.

HAVE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE TRIED "NATURAL" METHODS? (OTHER THEN TAKING MEDS). I WAS WONDERING IF I DID BOTH, IF THAT COULD HELP.

I HAVE A SIX Y.O. SON AND WANT TO BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME FOR HIM. 

THANKS AGAIN


LanieG
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   Posted 6/25/2008 9:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Ciaran's dad, hello and welcome to the forum.  First of all, it's important to keep the app't with your doctor.  Together you should be able to come up with a solid and healthy plan to help you deal with these health issues.  What are your blood sugar readings in a typical day?  Fasting?  Post-prandial?  Are you doing any sort of regular exercise?  What are you eating?  You have a 6 year old son and you need to take care of yourself so you'll be able to take care of him and be there when he's grown.  I know it's not easy making adjustments to our lives but you also know that you can't put your head in the sand and ignore the "bad new" that you would always get from the doctor's visits.  Some people believe that adding cinnamon to food helps with blood sugar, but what I've found to be most effective is my eating plan and the fact that I now do regular exercise.  If you need to lose weight, that will also help tremendously in keeping better blood sugar control.  Let us know what happens with the doctor's app't, ok?  (And PS, using all capital letters is the equivalent of SHOUTING - please don't! Thanks!)

Lanie
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ciaran's dad
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   Posted 6/25/2008 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
hi lanie,
sorry about the caps..
believe it or not i just had to re-schedule my appt. doctors doing not mine.
i haven't & don't check my blood sugar level,
i have to get to the pharmacy and get a monitor. i don't fast,i have no idea what post-prandial is. i do walk a mile or two a day(i was up to 4-5 miles but stopped). as far as diet goes , i must confess i'm not sticking to one. i DO however check the "nutrion boxes" on what i eat or drink and try my best to stay away from too much sugar / carbs. however, i know that what i'm doing is the equalent of not doing much or anything at all.  
i'm dreading this dr. appointment,for the same reason i dreaded them before but i know i have to get myself on a programme here.
 i'm really behing the 8-ball aren't i? 

LanieG
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   Posted 6/25/2008 11:57 AM (GMT -7)   
nono   Ok.  Let's get a grip here!  You are here because you are concerned about your health and you want to do something about it.  That's absolutely the best first step you can take!  :-)   I was probably in a similar boat a couple of years ago as I was trying to learn about this.  You can check back over some of our past topics here and learn a lot about diet and lifestyle, what's worked for others and not.  We've talked about food, recipes, kinds of exercise and medication in many, many threads here.  I believe you need to have a blood glucose meter.  Most of the companies that make them offer a free one, so just go to their websites.  They'll send you a little kit with a meter, a lance to prick your finger and a small supply of test strips.  However, you have to have the new test strips each time you test, so if you have insurance, see what's covered.  I believe a member bought an inexpensive meter from WalMart because the test strips were cheaper than the other brands.  Do a search online and look at all that comes up.  Generally, we test first thing in the morning before eating or drinking anything except water (this is the morning fast).  Then, you may test 2 hours after you begin eating a meal and sometimes just before bedtime.  A very good idea is to keep a journal of these blood sugar readings with the times, date, what you've eaten, etc.  This way you can see how your blood sugar is affected by what food.  The doctor would be interested in seeing all this.  I don't eat anything with flour, sugar, potatoes, rice or corn.  I eat all kinds of meat/chicken/fish and vegetables, salads.  If you're eating food from boxes, anything "prepared" you're filling up with sugars, starches, bad fats and salt.  Yes, read labels.


Lanie
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Post Edited (LanieG) : 6/25/2008 1:16:10 PM (GMT-6)


ciaran's dad
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   Posted 6/25/2008 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
thanks lanie
i will check out the meters you had mentioned.
i will go back & check out more of what was written in the threads. i have to stay away from eating fish & meat (i have high cholestral). i love to eat both too. had a question, why no corn?
i think what to eat will be the hardest part.
 i could stand to lose a few pounds around my waist. i did that before, i know i can do it again.
thanks again
  

LanieG
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   Posted 6/25/2008 1:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Corn, like potatoes, is full of carbohydrates.  You can get lists of the glycemic number for food online.  Just google 'glycemic index' and you'll find lots of sources for that.  Carb content is what you should be concerned about because carbs drive the blood sugar up.  I also had elevated cholesterol a couple of years ago.  That was another problem that my doctor wanted to take care of; she wanted me to take medication.  But, as I've said before, I negotiated with her to give me 6 months to see if I could take control of all this.  And I did.  I ate all meats (including red meat), chicken, fish, salad food, veggies, cheese, eggs and not only did my blood sugar come down but so did my cholesterol.  According to several articles that we've referred to here, cholesterol is manufactured by our own bodies from the carbs we eat.  So, this has been my experience.  You can read about others' here too but remember that we do metabolize food differently, so even though one person can eat beans, I can't because they drive my blood sugar up if I eat a normal portion.  I can eat about a spoonful along with dinner though.

Lanie
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ciaran's dad
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   Posted 6/25/2008 1:41 PM (GMT -7)   

i figured it was carbs with the corn.

i love corn & potatoes too!

i think my cholestral levels will go up if i tried the diet you spoke of. cheese and eggs are what got me the high cholestral. (i'm a big fan of dairy)!

i read that there is something to take through an i.v. (chelation therapy) that can cut down on cholestral, there by bringing down sugar levels.  

thanks again lanie

LanieG
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   Posted 6/25/2008 2:23 PM (GMT -7)   
You need to watch your intake of carbs if only because of the high blood sugar.  Constant high blood sugar which we see in diabetics as well as pre-diabetics (those who haven't been diagnosed and those whom the doctors still call "borderline") will damage internal organs over a period of time.  Many diabetics end up with heart disease, kidney damage and nerve damage if their blood sugar is not kept under control.  Chelation therapy is on the fringes of the medical profession for treatment of heart problems; as a matter of fact, it may also harm the body or worse.  Originally it was meant for treatment of poisoning.  This is completely unnecessary, expensive and possibly dangerous.  You might still be able to control your blood sugar just by diet and exercise but you have to know what your blood sugar levels are.  If you don't have a blood glucose meter, it's impossible to know this.  No one says it's easy making a diet change.  I didn't think I could live without bread (or potatoes or corn or sugar in my coffee or regular desserts...) but I can and you can too.  I think you need to do some reading up on diabetes and how the pancreas works.  I would recommend Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Book.  Good luck!


Lanie
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diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds

Post Edited (LanieG) : 6/25/2008 3:31:33 PM (GMT-6)


ciaran's dad
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   Posted 6/25/2008 2:27 PM (GMT -7)   

thanks again lanie.

i'll look that book up.

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