Can Diabetes Disappear??

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ericsmom
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   Posted 7/21/2008 5:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Everyone
 
Hope you are all keeping those sugars in check!!  I have a question, but it might seem unusual, or maybe not tongue
4 years ago I was very ill, and was put on a very high dose of prednisone for my pericarditis.  about a month aftr that, I started with the symptoms of diabetes...and was diagnosed in march/04.  The internist who was caring for me at the time, claimed that the diabetes was drug induced, and that once I was off the prednisone, the diabetes would disappear.  Of course the girls at the diabetic clinic scoffed at that and said if that happened I would be in the medical history books..LOL
Ok...I have been completely off the prednisone for 3 1/2 weeks...and for the past 4 days...I keep crashing.  My sugars crash 1 - 2 hours after a proper meal.  so...I was wondering...starting tomorrow, could I skip the diabetic meds, and of course monitor myself very closely?  Or is that dangerous?  I take Diamicron, and metformin.
 
I really appreciate any input.
thank you in advance
 
Diane

DOH!!! I'm sorry! I just read another post on the same subject...Drug induced Diabetes....but the one difference in mine, is that I am wanting off the meds to see if it is actually gone... eyes   because why am I crashing....and by crashing, I am talking (cdn) levels of 2.0 and 1.5....not long after a meal


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Jack Ryan
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   Posted 7/22/2008 1:22 AM (GMT -7)   
I have been off insulin since about 3 months after my prednisone/diabetes "attack". It still goes high if I cheat too much but pretty much so long as I make a good effort at diet and exercise, then that's all I need.

I'll get a little high once in a while but it comes back down with in an hour or two.

If I get to thinking "I'm cured" I'll get enough highs that my A1C will show it at the next doctor visit.

ericsmom
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   Posted 7/22/2008 5:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Good morning Jack
 
Thank you so much for your response.  I am definately going to give it a try starting today...I will keep a very close watch on my levels, maybe you and I have the drug induced diabetes, and now that we are off the steroids, we can control our sugars with diet.
I am so hoping I can knock off 2 more medications from my list. Thanks again :-)
 
Hope you are having a great start to your day Jack
 
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Diane
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LanieG
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   Posted 7/22/2008 5:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Good morning Diane.  Gosh, there are several members here who have drug-induced diabetes, so I hope they can help out with this.  I'm not sure if the diabetes will disappear - it all depends on if the pancreas was permanently affected.  I know it takes a long time to wean the body off the steroids but after that...?  As you said, controlling the blood sugar by diet works for everyone to some extent but for how long, I don't know.  As long as you can test and know how the blood sugars are, that's great.  Hopefully someone with more experience with this will chime in.  Let us know how it goes, ok?

Lanie
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ericsmom
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   Posted 7/22/2008 6:15 AM (GMT -7)   
 Thank Lanie

I WILL keep you updated.  Another thing occurred to me last night.  Not only has my sugar been crashing the past 4 days, I remember also complaining about it quite often before as I was being weined off the steroid.  It just didnt happen as often...plus I find that if I am coming down with a cold my sugars tend to crash unexpectedly then too.  It MUST be the steroid reduction/cessation...LOL there I go...playing doctor again  eyes    It took me several attempts, then finally a programme that lasted 6 months!!! to finally succeed getting off that cursed drug.

I guess it will be interesting to see what happens now....

P.S. This is where keeping a journal of our levels etc comes in handy...I was/am very bad for not doing it...sure would have come in handy at this time....so dont be like me...keep journalling like we are supposed to!! 

 

Gentle hugs

Diane


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LanieG
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   Posted 7/22/2008 6:20 AM (GMT -7)   
What is the protocol for this?  Reducing the metformin as needed?  It would seem to me if you're having low's, you'd have to cut the metformin dosage and keep testing.  Is this what the doctor says to do?

Lanie
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gelchick
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   Posted 7/22/2008 7:43 AM (GMT -7)   
My cousin was made a diabetic by prednisone due to back problems.
 
When she stopped the steroid, her sugars dropped back into the normal range. She stopped the metformin on her own becasue she was crashing. Her doctor kept telling her she was now a diabetic for life- but she wasn't diabetic before the prednisone, and her numbers remain in the normal range today.
 
That was 10 years ago. In her case, I think that the drug caused her sugars to go higher than her pancreas could handle- kind of a temporary diabetes.  As soon as the drug was out of her system, her normal pancreatic function was enough to contol her blood sugar levels.
 
It's your body-if you are crashing- you don't need a drug. 
sandy
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ericsmom
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   Posted 7/22/2008 8:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Here's the thing Lanie...I am doing this on my accord because my doc is away till mid august.  I know that very low sugar is just as dangerous as very high.
The reason I am trying this on my own is that I am thinking along the same lines as Sandy, that I must be crashing because of the meds.  There is no other explanation for it other than perhaps I dont need them any longer.  I am sure I will get a tongue lashing for taking it into my own hands, but my thinking is....if the sugars start climbing...then obviously I am wrong....hopefully I am not!!
 
Its been 2 hours since breakfast, I had 1 cup special K, sugar is 6.8....I believe anything above 6 and below 9 is acceptable after a meal...but I better do a little more research I'm sure. I have no idea how long metformin and diamicron stay in the system...guess I will find out shortly tongue
 
Hugs
Diane
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LanieG
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   Posted 7/22/2008 8:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Diane, I would do exactly as you're doing.  If I were crashing with lows, I'd stop the medication, too.  And then I'd tell the doctor.  I follow directions pretty well but I'm not stupid.  We have brains for a reason. Your doctor isn't there with you when this happens - and he's on vacation anyway, so keep testing.  Good luck with that!

Lanie
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ericsmom
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   Posted 7/22/2008 9:03 AM (GMT -7)   
thank you Lanie....I think like you!!! I have finally taken responsibility for my illnesses....and trying hard to educate myself. I have found that alot of doctors treat us like children....some dont even listen at all. I sure hope I am sucessful...I take alot of meds, got rid of the prednisone, now get rid of the diabetic ones (I hope)...that leaves me with only 4 pills to take in the mornings!! and 2 at night...I used to take so many I would need 2 spots in my organizer just to have morning meds ready!!!
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 7/22/2008 2:05 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm with Lanie on this... and if your doctor balks, I'd get another doctor. A good doctor acts as your partner in your health care, not a "boss-figure" who gives out ultimatums. My doctor and I discuss options that work with my lifestyle and make joint decisions on how things will be handled. I am educated in the medical field so that makes a difference, but you have become educated about your diabetes and it seems to me that qualifies you as an equal participant in determining your own health care. Just my 2ยข.
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ericsmom
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   Posted 7/22/2008 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Awww thanks girls :-)
 
It's the HW support system that helps people educate themselves.  I am so lucky I found HW, I have such a positive outlook on most things now, whereas before, I was scared, unsure, and completely at the mercy of doctors.
 
Ok..this afternoon had a can of Ginger Ale, no spike in sugar...also..I went from 11:30 am till 5:30 pm wiithout having to eat.
 
Went out for chinese at 5:30 pm...and currently it is 8.1 (had a custard square for dessert) tongue ...that 8.1 reading is 7:33 pm
I will check again at 8pm and see if it spikes at all...doesnt look like it will.
 
Hope you are having a lovely evening
hugs
Diane
Fibromyagia, R/A, Diabetes, Atrial Fib, depression

folic acid, metformin, diamicron, bisoprolol, fenofibrate, pantoloc, wellbutrin, propafenone, ibprofen, warfarin, methotrexate


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Jack Ryan
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   Posted 7/22/2008 10:41 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm not sure about those readings. My blood sugar meter reads in numbers like 90 to 140. I'm considering any thing over 140 and I check it again an hour later to see if it's going down or still going up.

ericsmom
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   Posted 7/23/2008 4:51 AM (GMT -7)   

I am still not clear on the conversion....but if I understood it right...that 8.1 would be 145.0 US reading.  Not sure if I did that right, if so, then I guess that would be high?  Here, 8.1 is in the orange area, meaning above that is starting to get a little high.  For my first day med free, it was pretty foolish of me to have had that dessert.  Today I will just eat like I would normally eat...and see what happens.

I think the conversion is my reading x 18 = US reading,  hopefully genius Jeannie will see this and confirm or correct me tongue

 

Hope you have a wonderful day Jack

Hugs, Diane

 

 

 
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folic acid, metformin, diamicron, bisoprolol, fenofibrate, pantoloc, wellbutrin, propafenone, ibprofen, warfarin, methotrexate


Some people dream of angels, I held one in my arms


LanieG
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   Posted 7/23/2008 5:02 AM (GMT -7)   

Conversion table

Blood glucose can be measured in either millimoles per litre (mmol/l) or milligrams per 100 millilitres (mg%). USA.  Some EU countries use mg%, take a copy of the conversion table - it may be useful.

mmol/l

mg%

mmol/l

mg%



2.5 

3.5 

4.5 

5.5 




10 

18 
36 
45 
54 
63 
72 
81 
90 
99 
108 
126 
144 
162 
180

11 
12 
13 
14 
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16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 

198 
216 
234 
252 
270 
288 
306 
324 
342 
360 
378 
396 
414 
432 

Ta da!
Lanie
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ericsmom
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   Posted 7/23/2008 8:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Lanie :-)    your tho thmart tongue
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folic acid, metformin, diamicron, bisoprolol, fenofibrate, pantoloc, wellbutrin, propafenone, ibprofen, warfarin, methotrexate


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