Wondering What The Doctor Will Say

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TVEditor
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   Posted 10/3/2008 8:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Its been 3 months since I was diagnosed with type 2.  Although the weight loss has plateaued for the moment, I am down 22 pounds.  I test 6 times a day (before/after eating) and the results have been consistent -- 4.5 to 6 (81-108) first thing in the morning, 6 to 8 (108 - 144) after breakfast & lunch.  Before /after supper is always low (4.5 to 5.5) and it seems like I can eat anything I want around this time of the day (I stick to the low carbs though).
 
While I realise that the 8 and occasional 9 numbers are not good, I also know why they occur.  I still like my half bowl of Cheerios in the morning and a ham or cheese sandwich for lunch.  When I replace the cereal and bread, the numbers drop.
 
I had a fasting blood test last week and did a couple of tests of my own before the lab poked me.  I figure the lab test will show me at around 6 (a little higher than usual for me that day ... not sure why).  This is where I was last time I saw my doctor.  I see my doctor again on Monday -- do you think the consistency will impress him?
 
After reading through the CDA's recently released guidelines (I posted the link in a previous message), I am not considered diabetic, although I am if I eat normal foods.
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Due to the low carb diet, my digestion has never been better & I'd like to keep it that way.  I am hoping that he (doc) will let me keep my diet control plan going and delay the meds approach.
 
What are my chances that he'll agree?
 
Chris

Jeannie143
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   Posted 10/3/2008 9:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Chris,
Most doctors take a pessimistic view of diabetics adhering to a program because so few of us do. Most doctors just medicate to the degree that people eat carbs to try to handle the sugar load. If you tell the doc what you are doing and maybe fax in some readings to the office once a week, you may be able to put off the meds until or if the disease progresses.

When I started the NWBC food plan my doc made me fax in my food sheets and glucose readings once a week. After a month she let me go on my own because she saw that I had it figured out. She did recommend a low iron (I'm over 50) vitamin supplement, though.

The high sugar on the day of the test was probably stress. Makes us release adrenalin that spikes the sugars in case we have to high tail it out of there. Dr office... scary place! tongue
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


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   Posted 10/3/2008 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know the answer to your question, Chris.  It depends on your doctor's point of view.  My own doctor is a GP and I think the bottom line for her is my lab work.  They're normal.  Nothing out of range, internal organs working fine.  She has not mentioned meds since I've been able to bring the blood sugar down and she was wowed shocked  by the A1c.  But I'm the same way you are: my numbers are under control as long as I eat this way, but if I ate as I did before, my numbers would be high all the time.  However, I believe they were never exceedingly high because when I first got my glucose monitor, my readings were in the 130 to 165 (about 7.5 to 9) range and fasting around 120, although a chocolate peanut butter bunny put me just over 200 a year ago Easter.  Yes, I ate the whole thing.  rolleyes One thing that worried me was recovering from our trip to NYC.  I did not take my monitor - so I could eat and enjoy without the guilt.  Not that I went overboard, because I didn't.  I had a croissant with a breakfast omelet and artisan rolls (maybe 2) with dinner.  Everything else I ate was fine, no potatoes or rice, just my normal way of eating.  When we got back, my blood sugar went right back to where it was before the trip.  Holidays are coming............... cool

Lanie
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TVEditor
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   Posted 10/3/2008 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   

Well, I don't think I was looking for an answer so much as opinions and perspective.  You guys have a good lot of both wink

I don't get much clear thinking from my social circle so I depend on you people for sound advice. My wife thinks that life isn't worth living if you have to give up anything (she cooks a lot of pasta and potato-based things with way too much fat and salt) and my 81 year old mother called yesterday, worried that I was becoming anorexic.  Anorexic?  187 pounds?!?  To each their own I guess but I'm learning to be selfish, cook my own meals and take criticism with a virtual grain of salt.

My doctor is actually pretty approachable when it comes to self-management of health issues but I don't know how much stock he puts in the advice of my Diabetes Education nurse and nutritionist - they both want me to eat more and start meds to offset the extra carbs.  This just doesn't make sense to me.  If my doc tells me I've done or am doing damage to my organs, I would start the meds otherwise I'm going to continue with my plan.

Thanks for the feedback Lanie & Jeannie smilewinkgrin

P.S.  Gumdrops are a good food group aren't they?  What about the orange ones -- they must be good for you?

       (well, it was worth a try tongue

Post Edited (TVEditor) : 10/3/2008 12:34:32 PM (GMT-6)


ceebee
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   Posted 10/3/2008 12:17 PM (GMT -7)   
High five to you for regulating your food with no support from family:) Very hard to do. If you find out the orange gumdrops are a good food group...POST HERE FIRST!!! I sure miss those and still dream of them:) Good luck at the doctors.

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   Posted 10/3/2008 4:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Actually, gum drops can live in your pocket or purse in a little zip lock bag for those busy days when you just don't have time to stop and eat and you get light headed or a headache. Even non-medicated diabetics get low blood sugar sometimes! Actually, I carry a Zone or Balance bar or some other form of meal replacement bar for my 'missed meal' days... but we should all carry some kind of candy in case we run into a problem.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


LanieG
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   Posted 10/3/2008 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   

Well, you know, Chris, you hit on an important point: meal times with the family.  I'm the principal cook, especially during the week, and I prepare for everyone, so when it's the kind of meal where everything is separate, like meat, vegetables, salad, etc. it's fairly easy because I just don't eat the starch for that meal.  We have a lot of rice in different ways in this house and I don't eat that anymore, but I'll eat all the other food.  The problem would be if the rice dish is like a pilaf (all combined), so I kept some chicken or whatever out for me and saute up some peppers, broccoli or something to eat while they eat the rice dish.  I tended to stop making pasta which they also love, so if I make it now, I set some sauce aside and put it on zucchini noodles for me and the rest of them eat the pasta meal.  It didn't take long to get into the swing of this actually.  It's getting to be soup and stew season and I have to admit that potatoes were a good ingredient but I will make a smaller pot of soup, for example, without them for me.  Fortunately they also like the cream of .... soups and that's easy to make for us all to eat. 

I'm really comfortable eating this way and, as you said, unless the body organs are getting damaged and/or I can't control the blood sugar, I'm just fine without the meds.

Happy Weekend.  cool


Lanie
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 10/4/2008 6:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Chris,
Be sure that you are consuming enough "good" fats with your new food plan. This will hold the line on your weight loss and help your skin, bowels and vitamin absorption. And the family that is picking on you... ask them if they will read to you when you are blind or take you to dialysis when your kidneys fail... That should shut them up!
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


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   Posted 10/6/2008 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, I just got back from the doc ... he said "Excellent!"
 
I told him what the nutrionist/nurse said and he told me to keep doing what I'm doing.  He was very happy with my readings and test results.  Also said if I can drop another 10 or 12 pounds, he would take me off the blood pressure pills!
 
Thanks again to everyone for the diet advice and support turn
 
Chris
 
P.S.  Sorry ceebee, doc said the gumdrops aren't kosher nono
 
I guess this is understandable since as we all know, there's no such thing as eating just a few gumdrops tongue

LanieG
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   Posted 10/6/2008 6:38 PM (GMT -7)   
shocked    Chris!  That's fantastic!  Congratulations!  You've done really well.  I'm so glad your doctor is a reasonable one.  That's enough to make you forget the gumdrops!
Lanie
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 10/6/2008 8:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Forget gumdrops?!?!?shocked Impossible! Especially the little spice ones!!!

Hey Chris! You done good! Now take your right arm and extend it in front of you at shoulder height... bend it at the elbow and reach over your left shoulder... GIVE YOURSELF A BIG PAT ON THE BACK! turn
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross

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