diabetes - MS: what are normal blood sugar levels?

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LanieG
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   Posted 3/31/2009 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Bohuck2 wrote:
 
"Hi, my name is Chuck and I normally post on the Multiple Sclerosis board but I was recently in the hospital for treatment of my MS and they kept taking my blood-sugar levels and told me that I should really watch them. I have been out of the hospital for a little over a month now and I test my blood-sugar levels at least 3X a day. Mine has been around 150 to 170 but sometimes I get lucky and it's down in the 120's.

My question is, what is normal for a 60 year old with MS? Thanks to anyone who can help me out."
 
 

Post Edited (LanieG) : 3/31/2009 4:08:44 PM (GMT-6)


LanieG
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   Posted 3/31/2009 5:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, now that you have your new topic for everyone to see.... I don't know the answer to the specific question about blood sugar levels for a person with MS.  There are a few factors that might be why your blood sugar is elevated.  How long have you been on meds for diabetes?  Have they had a chance to work?  Could other medications that you take be affecting your blood sugar?  What is your diet like?  Activities/exercise?  Exercise and diet have direct effects on blood sugar, as does stress.  Are you seeing a GP or an endo for the diabetes? 

bohuck2
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   Posted 4/1/2009 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
LanieG,
Funny you should ask because I was just treated with Cytoxin for my MS. I was also checked 3X a day for my blood sugar levels and because I was on an IV of Cytoxin they were always really high. By that I mean more than 250. I attributed it to the medication. I now have been off of my treatment for about 5 weeks because you can only get treated with Cytoxin every so often. I am now back on my normal drugs that I take, like 800 Mg of Gabapentin 3X a day, 20 Mg of Benicar to control my blood pressure which I take daily, 10 Mg of Paxil daily, 200 Mg of Provigil 2X a day, 500 Mg of Metformin 2X a day, and 10 MG of Baclofen 2X a day.
Sometimes I feel like a walking drug store and wonder if all the drugs I take aren't affecting my blood sugar AND the way I feel everyday. I really feel sluggish a lot.
My Neurologist prescribes my MS drugs for the pain I have in my legs and my GP prescribes my Benicar and my Metformin.
I try to eat only sugar free foods but sometimes I like a good meal without the sugar free food. I don't do much exercising because of my PPMS and my age (60).
I do feel good in the morning but in the afternoon I get so exhausted I just want to sit and relax and if I fall asleep that's ok too. Thanks for asking. I appreciate it.
 
 
 
 
                                        Chuck the old man :>)
                                   AMWTP Training Instructor
                                          Idaho Falls, Idaho
                                  Diagnosed with PPMS May, 2006
                                   but still working at the present.         
                Tried just about everything there is for MS, including Tysabri
                               Just recently had Treatments of Cytoxin
                                        Liked to kicked my butt!


LanieG
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   Posted 4/1/2009 2:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Chuck, you have to be a sleuth and figure out exactly what could be causing certain symptoms.  I don't know how the MS and the meds you take for it affect you and the blood sugar.  I know that food with a lot of carbs can do two things: cause high blood sugar readings for sure and possibly cause a crash (lower blood sugar) a few hours later when you feel sleepy and lethargic.  One thing I want to comment on:  "I don't do much exercising because of my PPMS and my age (60)."   I'm sure the MS has its effects but don't use your age of 60!   skull   I turned 60 in December and I walk a lot and do strength training, lift weights and use the resistant machines.  So, don't use your age as an excuse!  Can you try exercising with dumb bells? 
 
... I just looked up "cytoxin" and only found "cytoxan".  Is this what you were taking?  If it is, info on the Web says it can cause very high blood sugar. 



Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds

Post Edited (LanieG) : 4/1/2009 1:28:28 PM (GMT-6)


Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/1/2009 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Chuck,
Lanie is right. It's often meds that spike your sugars but something else you wrote caught my eye. You said you only eat "sugar free foods" ... Because you haven't had basic diabetic training you are under the impression that eating sugar causes high sugar. This is only partially true. The complete answer is eating more carbohydrates than your body can metabolize causes high blood sugar. Carbohydrates or starches turn into sugar in the body so to really help yourself you need to eat less carbohydrates, not just less sugar.

Foods fall into one of three categories for us. Proteins, fats and carbs. Some foods are just one thing, such as beef is a protein, or a mixture of the three. Peanut butter has lots of good-for-you monounsaturated fats, some protein and even some carbohydrates. There are lots of numbers to juggle and a bit of figuring to do to get it all correct so I take the easy way out. I don't eat any obvious carbohydrates or sugars. The other name for this food plan is "The nothing white except cauliflower and cottage cheese" food plan.

For me this means avoiding things made with grains, wheat, rice, corn, pasta, noodles, breads, donuts, cookies, (actually all baked goods!) along with potatoes and alcohol. Eating these foods is harder on my body because I don't metabolize carbohydrates very well and the sugars tend to stay in my blood stream. This thickened blood (think maple syrup) has difficulty getting into all the little capillaries and feeding all of the body's cells and nerve fibers because of the gloppy big sugar molecules. In order to help my body I try to get my carbohydrates from the veggies and fruits I need to stay healthy. This way I absorb less carbohydrates than my body needs to deal with.

When I eat carbs like pasta or bread I tend to get very tired and sleepy and don't feel like doing much at all. When I eat lean, crisp, fresh foods I have more energy and am more alert. I certainly am not perfect and slip up often, but on the whole I try to stay within my guidelines. Breakfast is an egg with a slice of melted cheese over it along with 1/2 an orange. Lunch is deli meats wrapped in romaine lettuce, an apple, some carrots or other fresh veggie. Dinner is grilled meats, soups made with thin sliced cabbage in place of noodles, and often two or three different vegetables.

I have gotten a handle on my HDL's (the good cholesterols) by eating more olives, olive oil, avocado and nuts. I try to eat a moderate amount of meats and fish and no more than three fruit portions a day. I use cheese and yogurt to maintain my calcium intake but avoid milk because it's high in lactose which is also known as milk sugar. I do eat 1/2 cup of ice cream each week. Real, high fat ice cream because the high fat content spreads out the absorption of the sugars and that prevents spikes.

If you will read way back in the posts and see what others are doing to help themselves you will get a real diabetes education and you can read it at your leisure... and it's FREE! Good luck with this and don't be a stranger. We'll help you all we can.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teresa

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


bohuck2
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   Posted 4/2/2009 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks girls, I appreciate your comments a lot. Jeannie I will read other posts when I can and yes, cytoxin or cytoxan I find is the same thing. It's actually given as an IV and I had to get 12 Treatments, one every 8 hours. It wasn't so bad until the Doctor told me that I was really getting a big dose of it! Then, I started feeling really lousy.!
 
Lainie, when the weather gets nice I plan on taking walks and getting as much exercise as I can but right now, it is snowing still in SE Idaho. Also, with the type of MS I have, I get so exhausted as the day goes on. Most people are diagnosed with Relapsing/Remitting but I have Primary Progressive which means my MS gradually gets worse over time.


 
 
 
 
                                        Chuck the old man :>)
                                   AMWTP Training Instructor
                                          Idaho Falls, Idaho
                                  Diagnosed with PPMS May, 2006
                                   but still working at the present.         
                Tried just about everything there is for MS, including Tysabri
                               Just recently had Treatments of Cytoxin
                                        Liked to kicked my butt!

Post Edited (bohuck2) : 4/2/2009 11:59:38 AM (GMT-6)

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