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   Posted 6/14/2009 2:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone. I haven't been to healingwell in months. I have to say I am doing better than when I was here last, but now I'm here in the diabetic room after going from pre-diabetic to full blown diabetic. My blood sugars would go as high as 230 even on meds, I was on metformin 1000mgs, lisinopril, and glucotrol 5mgs. Because of this and other health problems plus of course my ballooning weight I was scheduled for gastric bypass. My surgery date was June 1st of this year and then it was postponed 2 days before surgery. Well I looked at my progress over the months before hand, you need a certain amount of a diet supervised by a doc, and have officially decided to cancel the surgery. I am down 30lbs and now off the glucotrol and lisinopril. I think needing the surgery kind of scared me in to eating healthy with no cheating. I mean the only person I was cheating was myself, right? My blood sugars still aren't excellent. Way better than the 170-230 range they were before...now they are between 80-130. I'm working on it though. My highest time is in the AM after fasting which I still don't fully understand, but during the day it's usually between 80-110. This morning my fasting was 111. I really think I can control this with my metformin and diet alone and like I said my sugars are getting better every day. Preparing for that surgery really taught me a lot about portions, tips on how to eat less by tricking my mind, and how to beat head hunger. I'm learning what spikes my blood sugar and what doesn't. Learning to enjoy veggies in place of pasta and bread I used to OD on.

So anyway I guess this post is kind of a reintroduction and any tips on how to improve what I'm doing and to keep me off of more meds would be appreciated! Also if anyone could explain the whole fasting AM higher levels I'd appreciate it! lol.

oh my A1c level, which I can't remember at the moment, went down .2 15lbs ago so hopefully with my progress the next check will be even better. have to wait til Oct for that.



<FONT color=green>Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, insulin resistant/diabetic. Too many meds to list!


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   Posted 6/14/2009 3:00 AM (GMT -7)   
oh and anyone who could point me to a good glycemic index will be greatly appreciated!


Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, insulin resistant/diabetic. Too many meds to list!


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   Posted 6/14/2009 6:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi closure, welcome to this forum.  From what you write it seems like you have some control over how your blood sugar behaves.  You've already found that carrying around too much weight can make you insulin resistant and that carbohydrates will keep the blood sugar too high.  So, please look through the past threads here where we've talked about diet and food and other points about controling blood sugar.  You can read up about the South Beach Diet, especially Phase One.  There are many places online that have lists of the glycemic index.  I don't know of one particular list which is the best.  Besides what you eat, you can also benefit from a regular routine of exercise.  You could start with walking.  The key is to do this everyday.  Many of the members here who went low-carb and started some kind of regular exercise found that they lost weight and that their blood sugar was under better control.

Lanie
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   Posted 6/14/2009 6:34 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks Lanie...I think with the metformin plus diet I could have my sugars under control. I'm learning and trying to learn fast because I know it's bad to have levels like I have sometimes. As for exercise I did join a gym...I just recently started going so I'm hoping that will help too. I'll have to look around for the glycemic index sites. The few I've found haven't been too helpful. I'll check out the south beach diet now.


Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, insulin resistant/diabetic. Too many meds to list!


LanieG
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   Posted 6/14/2009 7:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Closure, it's really good that you realize you have some degree of control over this aspect of your health.  (Some people might just give up and not try to change their lifestyle or others might fight against any suggestions to change.)  I can speak from experience about being able to control things (to a point, of course) because when I lost weight and started exercising, my blood sugar readings really did come down as well as my cholesterol and blood pressure.  When my doctor 'threatened' me, I mean suggested, that I go on meds for blood sugar and cholesterol, I asked her to give me 6 months to see if I could change things and during those 6 months, I scrambled to find out what I could about blood sugar.  Long story short:  cut out the white food which means anything made with flour and sugar, potatoes, rice and pasta.  Eat meat/chicken/fish, all vegetables except the potatoes and corn.  Eat salads, cheese, nuts.  Go very easy on fruit.  Testing your blood sugar is important so you know how you react to certain food.  I think you can find a lot of info about the South Beach Diet Phase One online and/or go to a bookstore to flip through those pages to see what it says.  It's essentially what I just described above.  I bumped up a thread this morning about what makes our blood sugar rise; so read that, too.  I just read in the Parade Magazine this morning about tweaking cardo exercise so it's more effective and will try to post something about that, too.  You'll be much better off than you were some months ago.  You have a lot of support here, so don't be afraid to ask questions, ok? 

Lanie
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   Posted 6/14/2009 10:21 AM (GMT -7)   
During some of my research today I learned about fruits. For some reason it didn't dawn on me that they could be a problem too...I did look at the phase 1 of south beach...it looks a little rough, but honestly my doc told me to cut out all white food too. I was such a carb addict and over the past month or so I've really been changing my habits and honestly I'm not missing it too much. I've been trying different veggies...I rarely ate them before, but with different spices and stuff they're pretty good lol. I still have a long way to go weight wise...my highest was 304 and now I'm down to 274. Just that change really helped, like I said I got off 2 meds already thanks to it. I have a few others that could go away with more weight loss so I'm trying my best. It would be wonderful to not wake up and have to take a handful of pills.

Thank you for your words of encouragement and support Lanie.


Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, insulin resistant/diabetic. Too many meds to list!


LanieG
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   Posted 6/14/2009 6:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I remember how surprised I was when I was learning about food's effects on the blood sugar.  The first I'd read about it was in South Beach when he referred to orange juice.  Then, there's all the other fruit!  And the cereal I ate for breakfast!  I bought a cereal made especially for diabetics.  Eat Well, Be Well - I think was the name - and 2 hours later my blood sugar was very high, like in the 150's.  I ate it with 2% milk.  I thought I was being "good".  So, I know what you mean about not knowing these things.  It gets easier, honest.  I've been doing low-carb for almost 3 years and aside form blips like some holiday meals, I'm fairly loyal and true to this way of eating.  The other important thing is getting into a regular exercise routine.  As you'll find, the blood glucose meter will be your best friend as it will help keep you on track.  :-)
Lanie
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   Posted 6/14/2009 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sure it's somewhere, but what is an ideal range for your blood sugar?


Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, insulin resistant/diabetic. Too many meds to list!


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   Posted 6/14/2009 7:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi closure,

Listen to Lanie and read up on the 'Nothing white 'cept cauliflower & cottage cheese' regimen (well, eggs are white so you can have them too ;-). I tried this a year ago -- the weight loss & health improvement are amazing. Its quite an adjustment but worth it. I was a carb-addict like you (potatoes, pasta, rice, cereal) but I adjusted all that and lost about 40 pounds in less than a year. I feel better & my BG (blood glucose) readings are now normal according to my doc. This is a personal account but worth trying? As Lanie said, get a meter & use it to track your own results.

Chris

P.S. Lower carb meals also got rid of my gastric distresses -- an added bonus tongue
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   Posted 6/14/2009 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   
"Normal range for blood sugar" - depends on whom you ask!  I'm serious.  Whether it's your doctor, a pamphlet from the American Diabetes Association, your aunt or next door neighbor, you'll get different parameters.  Most agree that a 'normal' fasting (overnight) should be under 100.  So that range could be from 80 to 99.  Post-pradial (2 hours after a meal) could be from 100 to 120 for 'normal' but the ADA will say it's "ok" to be higher.  A doctor might say it's ok to go to 160 post prandial, but a non-diabetic would almost never go that high unless the meal was 100% carb: pasta with potatoes, corn and bread.  So, you see it's not easy to answer that question.  There's also the problem with disagreeing with a doctor.  Most data says that extended periods of over 140 can certainly lead to organ damage.  Diabetics are prone to kidney, heart disease, blindness and nerve damage especially starting in the feet.  So, keeping your blood sugar under 140 is very very helpful.  A low-carb diet will help you do that, providing you can eat what we've mentioned.  You have to keep your other health concerns in mind, medications, etc. and see if you can follow a low-carb plan. We've talked a lot about diet and food, even recipes, in the past threads, so you can learn a lot by going through them. 

Lanie
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   Posted 6/14/2009 8:54 PM (GMT -7)   
that's why I asked about the ranges...everything I've checked has said something different.

TVEditor...I like your sig.


Bipolar, panic disorder, PTSD, PCOS, hashimoto's disease/hypothyroidism, acid reflux, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, insulin resistant/diabetic. Too many meds to list!


TVEditor
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   Posted 6/15/2009 5:16 AM (GMT -7)   

Thanks closure tongue

It just means that I still make mistakes once in a while but not near as many as I used to.

Chris


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~ Diagnosed Type 2 in July/'08
~ Dropped 35 or so pounds after following HealingWell advice
~ Diabetes under control / no meds - so far - knock on head
~ My doctor thinks HE is responsible (Don't tell him! He's happy ;)

I used to eat 100% wrong -- now I eat 95% right

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