HELP...Apple pie w/cinnamon is ok?????

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Diane D.
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   Posted 8/15/2009 11:30 AM (GMT -7)   
My father is a diabetic but not on meds. He told me that he can eat Apple pie because it has cinnamon in it. Never mind the sugar and carbs, he insists that the cinnamon negates it all. I don't want to be disrespectful and get into an argument with him. SO I thought maybe if he heard the truth from someone else, he'd listen.

He read one of those flashy internet ads for a natural cure-all book. One of the teaser claims was that Diabetics could have apple pie because of the cinnamon. shakehead

Phishbowl
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   Posted 8/15/2009 12:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sure he knows what a bogus statement it is but it's obvious.... he wants his pie and to eat it too! The only one he's fooling is himself and on the off-chance that he actually DOES believe that cinnamon is this "miracle" spice, then it's only because he WANTS to believe it.

If cinnamon actually were so powerful as to negate carb/fat/protein consumption and its effects on blood sugars, it would've been used medicinally that way for thousands of years. While there has been some claim that it can MARGINALLY help to regulate blood sugar levels (BGLs), it doesn't work independently like some magic powder but, co-exists along with a healthy lifestyle & eating habits.

BTW - it's usually not even so much the sugar and fruit (filling) of the pie that has the most disastrous effects on BGLs.... it's the pastry. All that white flour and fat and sugar - no nutrition whatsoever, either. He's be much better off with say a small baked apple with a bit of brown sugar, some lemon and a sprinkling of crumble (flour, butter, cinnamon) - IF he HAS to have this kind of sweet. I don't recommend it - there are better desserts to be had - but I just want to illustrate that compromises can be easily made.

Be wary of the snake oil salesmen.
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Diane D.
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   Posted 8/15/2009 8:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Well said...I'll forward this to him and my mom. I hope he takes it to heart. We all do a little cheating I sure do. But we need to accept it as "cheating", not think it's the norm.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

TVEditor
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   Posted 8/16/2009 5:59 AM (GMT -7)   
If your Dad buys this sales pitch, I'm sure he'd love to buy my old truck. Its a classic, 1992 Ford Ranger in PERFECT condition (yeah .... r i g h t ;-)

Seriously, I think we all go through a bargaining stage at some point or other, trying to convince ourselves that our old favourite foods are somehow OK. Just last week, my wife said to me:

"You can eat blueberry pie right? Blueberries are full of antioxidants and are good for you right?"

SHE had a craving for blueberry pie and was trying to bargain with me. She, like quite a few people I have talked to, gets mad when I suggest eating better and exercising. I think its worth a little confrontation once in a while considering the end goal -- living longer and healthier.

Phish is right -- the pastry is the bad guy. A few slices of apple (or blueberries) won't hurt.

P.S. I have a Dad just like yours but his argument usually involves healthy waffles rolleyes
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Diane D.
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   Posted 8/16/2009 9:33 PM (GMT -7)   
It's sad...I think having the pie isn't the REAL issue, nor is his stubborness. Much deeper than that. At 78 I think he's afraid of where his life is headed and disappointed by how it's gone. That scares me more than a piece of pie. I know it's not right, but when there's not much enjoyment left in life, taking away or having to staying away from that piece of pie is a bitter pill to swallow. Life isn't fair.

Diane D.
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   Posted 8/16/2009 9:46 PM (GMT -7)   
My mom is the healthiest person I know. She's 74 and builds picnic tables, dog houses, and at 71 SHE built from boards (not already put together panels) a 6 foot wooden fence around their 1 acre yard! It looks like it was built by pros! Last year I bought her a tool box for Mother's Day, LOL. But my dad's a different story...He's depressed but won't set foot in a counseling office.

Sometimes asking someone to give up their pie or ice cream or whatever is like ripping an orphan's security blanket right out of their tiny little hands. He's not overweight and he usually does good but he binges. And when he doesn't have the medication to take...

TVEditor
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   Posted 8/17/2009 7:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, I know what you mean. You can't really tell your parents what to do and at their age, I think they've earned the right to make their own decisions. It is difficult to watch and live with though isn't it?

All part of life I guess.
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Diane D.
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   Posted 8/17/2009 12:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Yupe, ain't THAT the truth... Thank you.

couchtater
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   Posted 8/17/2009 5:54 PM (GMT -7)   
My father makes delicious apple pie with very little pastry and sugar. He rolls out a very thin crust, you can almost see through it. Puts sliced apples on top. Sprinkle cinimon(?) on top with a little butter spray. Roll out another paper thin crust and lay on top. Sprinkle more cinnomon on top with butter spray and bake slow. Delicious!

Joy

MattsPop
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   Posted 8/17/2009 11:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Devils advocate here: If the gentleman is 78 years old and doesn't require meds for a serious diabetic condition, how much damage could the occasional piece of pie do? To my mind, a simple pleasure such as this at this stage of his life should not be denied. Cheers.

Diane D.
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   Posted 8/18/2009 10:12 AM (GMT -7)   
I get your point and that's true. I should just let it slide...He just gets to be such an opinionated ol' cuss sometimes, LOL. And my Mom is ALWAYS making healthy sugar free stuff for him and me. It just bothers me that he's "clinging" to , as Phishbowl said, what the "snake oil salesman'" told him when it's SO bizzar a statement.

BUT wouldn't it be great if it were true!! We could just sprinkle cinnamon on everything; Pizza, chocolate chip cookies, ice cream, ohh oh and my favorite TWIX BARS!!! OMG! CAKE! We could eat Churros and Snickerdoodles 'til we burst!! Imagine the stampede of previously denied Diabetics racing to the bakeries and supermarkets!!

...Sorry, that was disrespectful.

It just hurts me to have to wonder where his common sense has gone. Know what I mean??
Yes, he should be able to have his pie every once in a while, I just hate to see him falling for what is probably a scam. If he'll fall for that what else will he fall for??? I'm sure there are lots of adult children who fear this for their elderly parents.

MattsPop
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   Posted 8/18/2009 6:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Perhaps he came across this recipe:

http://www.recipezaar.com/Diabetic-Apple-Pie-41910

Jeannie143
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   Posted 8/20/2009 5:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Diane,
My father in law died from a heart attack that was part of his diabetic complications. He was almost totally blind at the time and struggling with his blood sugar. When he was told that the fried potatoes he loved for breakfast were going to shorten his life his response was "If I can't have my fried taters, how long would I want to live anyway?" That pretty much summed it up for him. He ate what he wanted and died happy. It was his choice. Not what I would have chosen for him but he was a grown man in charge of his own choices. Sometimes you need to let people choose. (sigh!)
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
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ocdgirl2000
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   Posted 8/24/2009 4:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Just wait till you are 78, have a spouse who runs circles around you, and have kids trying to prove you wrong about YOUR diet! Then you'll know how he feels! He's trying to remain independent in his decisions! He still can, whether his decisions are good ones or bad ones, who are we to judge? Maybe he thinks they are good ones for him? I don't know.

I make health decisions for myself that my kids might not agree with, but it's none of their business! LOL! (I'm becoming an ornery old lady too!) If they even tried telling me what to do...ohhhhh...that wouldn't be a good idea at all!

Walk in your father's shoes, BE an elderly parent for a while!
"If you always tell the truth, you won't get caught lying." (pop-pop's proverbs)

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