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sirenshooter
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   Posted 8/25/2009 12:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I'm usually on the Ulcerative Colitis forum but I thought I'd come here or some advice on my very, very, VERY stubborn dad.
 
Here's some history: his mom basically died of diabetes (her retinas detached, she had to have her foot amputated, then her leg, then sadly, she died), his sister is pretty much going blind from it, and his brother also has diabetes and something weird is going on with him but I don't know what, it's just bad.
 
Anyways, they are all from Kentucky and you know how they like to eat their soul food. The thing is, I'm trying to help my dad eat better and maybe try some natural supplements (I of course check all possible medication interactions) but he just won't listen to me! You should see what this man eats, it's horrible. Now I'm not the healthiest eater, but I figured if I could change my stubborn ways, so could he. But he won't. It's like 90% of his meals are carbs, he slathers over a tablespoon of margarine on every piece of bread he eats with a meal (which usually averages four pieces of white bread) and he won't listen to me about any natural things to help. I thought he would get the hint from his family but he won't. He eats cookies, cakes, pop, all kinds of horrible things and he's overweight. He can't exercise because he had his ankle reconstructed. What should I tell him?! It doesn't help that I don't know all the things you aren't supposed to eat.
 
Also, any suggestions for natural supplements? I was wondering about Cinnamon too. Anyone tried it?
 
Thanks so much for reading all this, I know it was long! =)

PS: I think he has Type 2.


19yr old female diagnosed with UC (pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday / 1 Mesalamine enema every night /
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome

Post Edited (ElephantPipe) : 8/25/2009 2:00:08 PM (GMT-6)


LanieG
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   Posted 8/25/2009 1:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi ElephantPipe, sorry about your dad's situation and if you read back over some of our older posts, you'll see a few family members in your same position.  First of all you can't change anyone or their habits if they don't want to change.  I can't explain why some people are like that but my mother was and in the end diabetes killed her.  I would think that with all the devastating suffering in your family from diabetes that your dad would want to avoid the complications but it's impossible to know what's in another person's mind.  And he has freewill, afterall.  If he's the one who controls what he puts in his mouth, the best you can do is gently help him understand a better way of eating.  In short, bread, cake, cookies, (anything with flour and sugar), potatoes, pasta and rice will keep his blood sugar running high.  He'll do much better if he eats lots of vegetables (not potatoes!), salads, meats, chicken, fish, eggs.  Tell him he can put butter on his vegetables and his greens.  Breakfast can be eggs and bacon (turkey bacon if he wants) with cheese on top.  Chicken or tuna salad with mayo.  I don't know how effective cinnamon can be.  Does he take any medication and does he have a blood sugar monitor?  I hope this helps a little.  If you read back through our other posts, you can get some idea of what others eat.  Come back and let us know how it goes, ok?

Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds
                                                                 


sirenshooter
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   Posted 8/25/2009 8:48 PM (GMT 0)   
He's on medications for all kinds of stuff, including diabetes, and he does monitor his blood sugar. I think part of his problem is he has "anxiety" I guess? I don't know, he's very stubborn and freaks out about stuff and gets pissed off at me when I try to help sometimes. He won't take his medication for that and everyone feels better when he does. Ugh. I understand why he won't but at the same time... I think maybe he should give it another shot. Well, thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday / 1 Mesalamine enema every night /
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


LanieG
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Total Posts : 5403
   Posted 8/25/2009 2:10 PM (GMT -7)   

Does he use a computer?  Can he get online and come and participate here on HealingWell?  (I promise we'll be gentle with him - at first anyway tongue ).   Sometimes the more a person is pushed, the more he'll push back and be more stubborn - I know this from experience.  Tell him what you found here:  people who've been able to get some control over diabetes.  I think we're very supportive for everyone, especially those who are looking for a way to be more in control of their diabetes.  We may not be able to cure it but we can really do better than we did before.  Sometimes anxiety is worse when we don't understand what's happening to us and it's easier to stay in the dark but that leads to nowhere.  I started on this road about 3 years ago when I was 57 but I'm determined to live longer and in better health than my mom.  I hope we can get him involved here.

yeah


Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds
                                                                 


sirenshooter
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   Posted 8/25/2009 2:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh, jeez, I wish he could. He might listen to you guys. But I don't know if he's capable of navigating a forum. Let alone getting an answer typed out in less than an hour lol. But maybe after I convince my mom to get us new internet he can get to using the downstairs computer. So, I'll try lol. Or maybe one day I could just make him read a bunch of this stuff. =)
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday / 1 Mesalamine enema every night /
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


LanieG
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 5403
   Posted 8/25/2009 2:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, if you casually mention to him about us here....   Are you using another computer or a laptop in the house?  Maybe he could peek at a few posts here.  He may think he's doomed because he doesn't know of any other way out or alternative to how he's been living or eating.  But there is hope - honest.  I live in the middle of barbecue country (Memphis) and I eat pulled pork and ribs pretty often but I don't use the standard sauce because it's full of corn syrup, so I whip up my own.  If I can get control, anyone can, believe me!
yeah  
Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds
                                                                 


sirenshooter
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   Posted 8/25/2009 4:10 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm on dial-up, which works on my laptop but doesn't work for the desktop.

lol alright. Mmm bbq... I like Tennessee. I miss grandma's food but I think it's safe to say it wasn't helping her any lol
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday / 1 Mesalamine enema every night /
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


LanieG
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 5403
   Posted 8/25/2009 6:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, you know, in the old days, people did a lot more hard, physical work and walked everywhere, so maybe some were able to keep borderline diabetes more under control.  The problem is many of us continued to eat that way but eased up on the activity, so all that good food wasn't worked off.  And then there's the easy, convenience of pre-packaged food.  Processed food has a lot of salt and sugar in it and that doesn't help our health.  Well, now that we know all this, it's easier to figure out what we can eat - and it means getting back to basics: natural, unprocessed food.  Anyway, good luck with your dad, and now that you know where we are, just ask questions, ok?  :-)

Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds
                                                                 


TVEditor
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   Posted 8/26/2009 6:49 AM (GMT -7)   

OK, computer's fixed -- finally! :)

Looks like trying to help other family members see the light is becoming a new theme around here.  My Dad's in rough shape too.  Back in the 70's, he was diagnosed Type 1, put on insulin and pretty much told that he could eat anything he wanted (which he did).  A heart attack, a stroke and 30 or 40 hypoglycemic episodes later, he's still overweight and getting worse.

You asked me about my diet -- I don't really have a  meal by meal plan, its more like a group of foods and a routine that works for me.  Most of the ones Lanie mentioned are on my list.  

The key is R & R - Reading & Research.  Read the nutrition labels on stuff you buy.  After a year of doing this, my eye is trained to go right to Carbohydrate and Sugar lines.  Big numbers=bad.  We've got it easy these days with the internet being such a wealth of good information (some bad too).  I loosely follow a low-carb diet.  Try Googling that phrase for tons 'o references.  To start you off, try these:

(not all the talk around this one is diabetes-related but good food ideas/recipes)

http://forum.lowcarber.org/index.php?

(Fergus is on this forum ... a HealingWell member so you know its gotta be good :)

http://www.lowcarbdiabetes.co.uk/

Generally speaking, I eat a lot of protein (meats), cheese, nuts, vegetables (no potatoes, corn or peas), eggs and perhaps surprisingly, fats (bacon & butter).  Being a BBQ fiend & a former lover of steak & potatoes, I found it easy to just buy a cheaper (fatter) steak and substitute tomatoes for the potatoes.  (tomatoes or lots of salad greens)

Another key thing -- I eat smaller quantities & more often.  My day usually has about 4 semi-normal sized meals and 4 or 5 snacks (veggies ... nuts ... those little cheese & cracker packs that are made for kids' lunch boxes are great). 

See if you can get your Dad to try the Nothing White but Cauliflower, Cottage Cheese & Eggs plan for 2 weeks.  I was skeptical when I first started but lost 5 pounds and started feeling better in that same amount of time.  The way I see it, after so many years of me shovelling the wrong stuff into my mouth and only 2 weeks of finally doing it right, it was my body's way of saying "Thanks!"

Hope this helps :)


Chris - Forum Moderator, Diabetes

~ Diagnosed Type 2 in July 2008 ~ Dropped 40 or so pounds after following HealingWell advice ~
~ Diabetes under control / no meds - so far - knock on head

I used to eat 100% wrong -- now I eat 95% right

Post Edited (TVEditor) : 8/26/2009 11:28:47 AM (GMT-6)


sirenshooter
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   Posted 8/26/2009 3:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Lanie, he used to work from 7am to 3pm seven days a week, but he has flat feet and bad ankles and eventually had to have his ankle reconstructed so he had to retire... he wasn't skinny then but yeah, now it's a lot worse.

Chris, thanks a lot, I'll try the Nothing White thing first and see if he can stick to it. If he can, maybe he'll graduate to eating better all-around. And maybe my going-blind aunt would be interested, she doesn't have health insurance so I don't think she's on anything.

=)
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday / 1 Mesalamine enema every night /
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


LanieG
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 5403
   Posted 8/26/2009 8:38 PM (GMT -7)   

I know it's probably hard to convince someone who doesn't want to be convinced but they would do well to understand that we are real people here!  Honest!  Chris, Jeannie and I live this everyday and deal with the blood sugar monitor and effects of the food we eat.  So, just like your dad and your aunt, we test our blood sugar everyday and we've found the best ways to help ourselves control the blood sugar as much as we can.  Chris and I have been doing this without meds.  I know for a fact that if I continued to eat as I did before (lots of bread!) I'd be on medication right now, but I didn't want to take meds just so I can eat whatever I want.  As long as I am able to control it myself with diet and exercise, I'll do it.  So, if you can just tell them what you've found here, then maybe they'll be curious and want to know more!  Tell them to drop by and we'll leave the light on for them!

   smurf  


Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by low/no carb diet and exercise; no meds
                                                                 


sirenshooter
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Date Joined Jun 2009
Total Posts : 2004
   Posted 8/26/2009 8:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't think she has the Internet but I will try! lol. I think she might be more open to suggestions. There's always the telephone. =)
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday / 1 Mesalamine enema every night /
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome

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