newbie eddysgurl dealing with blood sugar issues - any advice?

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LanieG
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   Posted 12/13/2009 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Eddysgurl writes:  "
Sounds promising!!! I am a newly diagnosed type 2 diabetic also live in Canada (Ontario) Upon diagnosis I definitely had no idea that my eating habits combined with elevated weight could cause diabetes! I am a fairly active person but have never been a small person. I am not fond of diets or those that give diet advice!! I do enjoy vegetables/fruits and a fairly healthy diet but...have always had a sweet tooth and am married to the "Take out king!" he loves to eat out! Bad combination for those of us with diabetes. I had a physical in August and blood glucose level was 16.9!!! Ouch!

I work in the health care field and ironically with people who have various medical conditions...developmentally delayed, autistic, congestive heart failure, arthritis, osteoporosis, brittle bone disease etc.... Typically I am very busy work 9-5 in a high paced environment...then home to care for 4 boys, hubby and three very active dogs! Besides driving everyone to/from activities, I walk the dogs at the dog park daily...more like a hike, keep up the house, in summer I swim daily as we have a inground pool, the people I support are encouraged to be active as well and some of the activities we help them with include exercise plans walking,hiking,lifting weights,swimming etc..

At the present time I am reading everything I can get my hands on...some of which is contradictory and confusing! Making huge diet changes limiting carbs, cutting out sugar, adding more veggies/fruit and fiber,limiting portions. Although I hate to focus on weight as can discourage me from trying I have noticed a significant weight loss in only a few weeks (pants that were once snug falling off!) My glucose ranges are crazy though and seem to be struggling despite diet changes! They seem to spike at odd times in the day prior to lunch without having eaten anything besides breakfast when they were fine? Have had readings at this time of 13.2,14.6....etc! In the am before I eat they are low...3.3,3.7....my puppy (8mth old Border collie/Bermese cross) has started waking me up almost every morning and if I choose not to get up he will bark or attempt to pull me out of bed! Its almost as though he senses something wrong!

Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated!!"

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LanieG
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   Posted 12/13/2009 10:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Eddysgurl, welcome to HealingWell.  I took your first post and moved it to your own topic so you can get more replies.  I know it's hard and confusing at first trying to sort all the information out about diet and even the guidelines that you'll get from sources like the doctor, pamphlets, nutritionists, etc.  You'll find differences even among the professional health organizations as to what your blood sugar should be and as to what you should eat.  I believe many of us who started on this road before you have come to the conclusion that what works for us personally is what's important.  The fact is that people (like us) whose bodies do not metabolize carbohydrates correctly are in various degrees of diabetes and our blood sugar responds directly to the amount of carbohydrates we eat.  The obvious carbs are sugar (honey, syrups, high fructose corn syrup...), flour and anything made with flour, potatoes, other root vegetables like yams and carrots, rice, corn and fruit including juices.  Hard to accept but the bottom line is:  what does the food you're eating do to your blood sugar?  Corn flakes with skim milk cause high blood sugar?  Yes, in many people including me.  So, understanding how your own blood sugar responds is important which is why it's really important to start a food/activity log.  By the day, record the time you get up and the fasting blood sugar, breakfast: time and what you eat, blood sugar 2 hours after you eat.  Do this throughout the day, always testing your blood sugar 2 hours after you eat.  Consistency is important in testing.  This will tell you how the food you're eating affects the blood sugar.
 
You didn't mention medication, so I suppose you're trying to do this with diet and exercise.  The concern is the lows that you're having, and they seem to be in the morning.  You might need to have some kind of a snack before bed, maybe a couple of crackers with cheese or natural peanut butter. 
 
If you can keep a log for at least a week and try to eat regularly, cutting way down on the carbs, then maybe you can even those numbers out because your lows are too low and the highs are too high!  Having such wild swings isn't good as you know.  Try to read back through all our older posts and getting the blood sugar within limits and our talks about food, etc.  Ask all the questions you can think of.  So many of us are dealing with the same thing!  Good luck!  (And gently suggest to your dear husband that eating out so much is ruining your health!)  wink


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Post Edited (LanieG) : 12/13/2009 9:07:04 PM (GMT-7)


TVEditor
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   Posted 12/13/2009 4:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Hiya Eddysgoil,

What is with us Ontario Canadians -- is diabetes a new fad ?!? ;-)

Anyway, do as Lanie suggests -- cut the carbs (sugar/starches), eat more veggies (they fill you up so you're not always hungry) and keep track of things.

Like you, I was in the high 16's when I started and my numbers were all over the place but they settled down after a few months of diet modification. Watch out for the lows ... well, low for us. Readings in the mid 4's (even though supposedly healthy) make me light-headed/edgy and those in the above-6's bring on afternoon naps. That could be just me but its surprising how you start to notice your own body reactions to too much/too little.

Like you too, my problem area is the morning-to-noon period. I gotta have my Cheerios when I get up at 5:30am -- now I have a piece of cheese, a 'bowl' ... 3 spoonfuls of Cheerios ... & soy milk. What I did was cut back to smaller portions of everything -- from waking to supper but added snacks of nuts and veggies every couple of hours in between breakfast, lunch and dinner. In my case, I can just about eat as much as I want after 5:00.

You can train yourself to like this new style of eating; I mean, if I told you that a plate of potatoes, soaked in grease and fried 'til they were hard as pieces of wood and dripping in oil was a delicacy, you would look at me funnily right? ... but if I told you they were from McDonald's ;-) I look forward to my 1 slice of rye bread with peanut butter, a third of a cup of cottage cheese and a handful of nuts daily at 4:30pm because it now works for me.

You've got to figure out what works for you.

Welcome to 'The Club' .... and start shopping for smaller clothes ... you're going to need 'em :-)
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eddysgurl
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   Posted 12/13/2009 4:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Lanie and Chris for your helpful tips! I am sure after awhile like anything else it becomes second nature...you do it automatically without thinking too much about it! The highs and lows are definitely what is freaking me out! The day I was diagnosed I had a "fainting spell " at work and was due to low sugar levels as hadn't eaten breakfast/lunch and had had a very busy morning. Standing in the line at the bank with someone I support and all of a sudden got extremely hot and felt my knees given way...Thankfully there was a chair close by and I abruptly took a seat and was able to get my bearings..but scary feeling!! My coworker..who is Type 1 diabetic had me eat and have a glass of juice before doing anything else when I told her what happened...almost immediately felt better. But was quite a protest iniatially as kept telling her I am not Diabetic!!!

I am now starting to recognize when my sugars are off as get light headed/dizzy and often develop a headache. Gives a whole new meaning to the words "dizzy broad!" What an awful and scary feeling! Being someone who is always taking care of others sometimes "me" gets put off until later. I now have to focus on taking care of me so I can continue to care for others.

Christmas parties are difficult but have managed to make it through two now! One last week where I had to politely refuse many of the party foods and have only those I thought wouldn't cause a spike! Today we went to Swiss Chalet for a luncheon...and although I would have loved the "Festive Special" full of the Carb platter!!! Potatoes/Frys Stuffing/Cranberry sauce...greasy chicken Complete with dipping sauce..LOL I settled for a Greek Salad and a Chicken Wrap...unwillingly but made it through! I am starting to know what may cause spikes...lows. Definitely can not skip a meal or snack. I have started to have a small snack prior to bedtime which I almost have to force myself to do as not my usual practice! Turning down potatoes/rice and having extra veggies at dinner time!

When diagnosed I jokingly made a comment to the family that anything I cant have we no longer buy...my 13 year old was appalled and I heard him say to his brother later. "How do we Make Mom better? We're going to starve!" Guess I'll have to watch what I say! LOL Thanks again for your advice...I am already really enjoying this sight! No medication yet...hopefully can manage with diet/exercise if I ever figure this out!! I go back to the doctor Dec 22nd...until then am writing down what I ate and glucose levels. before after meals.

TVEditor
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   Posted 12/13/2009 6:05 PM (GMT -7)   
You're on the right track Eddy! Keep logging and testing -- and report everything to your doc.

Congrats on the Swiss Chalet conquest! -- hard to resist the carbs isn't it?

You did great!
Chris - Forum Moderator, Diabetes

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~ Diabetes under control / no meds - so far - knock on head

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LanieG
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   Posted 12/13/2009 9:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Eddysgurl, what makes me think you'll be "ok" dealing with this diabetes/blood sugar business is your attitude!  yeah   It's great!  And believe me when I say the blood sugar meter is your new best friend.  You'll learn what to eat very quickly and, yes, it will become second nature.  I no longer wonder what I can eat and I've found many ways to prepare food, especially vegetables, that I really don't miss the way I used to eat.  Tonight we went to a 'progressive dinner' in our neighborhood and with all the food that I couldn't eat, I found lots that I could eat.   At the end I endulged in one home-made treat made with chocolate and oatmeal and it was little more than 1 1/2 inches long.  In my "other" life, I would have eaten a slice of the Black Forest cake and more of the other sugary treats.  I'm wondering why you have such wide swings in the blood sugar and I'm hoping that if you create a reasonable and regular eating plan, including a bedtime snack (if you're waking up to very low blood sugar), that you'll be able to stabilize the readings.  Since you've been caught with lows during the day, too, you know that you need to eat something for breakfast, even if it's a piece of cheese and a piece of bacon or slice of ham.  Good luck.  Keep us informed about how it goes, ok?
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eddysgurl
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   Posted 12/14/2009 4:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the cheers about my Swiss Chalet conquest!! It helped that I have 4 very helpful and caring coworkers telling me what I could have instead! As they ordered their Carb feast LOL! Actually I love to cook(previously married to a chef) so have been checking out all kinds of Diabetic recipes that sound delicious...so once I start to be more daring I'll be sure to let everyone in on what turns out well!

As for my highs and lows definitely go high when I have skipped a meal and then eat...also lows tend to be first thing in the morning so the once non breakfast eater is now having breakfast. My Mom would be proud! I can still hear her lecturing me about the value of a good breakfast to start your day! I guess Mom knows best after all!

I am trying to be positive as I figure Diabetes doesn't just go away and will be something I will have to deal with the rest of my life. Although I hate to weigh myself and jinx it my weight is already changing as had to wear a belt on the weekend as my once snug pants falling down while Christmas shopping!! Pushing myself to eat properly and avoid temptation of sweets/junk. Exercising more...walking dogs am/pm plus my swim/walk at work every day. Today went to Museum to see "Victorian Christmas" then for a walk through the park for an hour(at work), once home dog park hike for 1 1/2 hours with my puppies..throwing the frizbee and such! Just finished dinner (Large Salad, Chili ) Blood sugar 4.9 prior to eating so did ok throughout the day...although prior to lunch 12.1!! I guess we shall see what they are afterwards! I will keep you all posted!

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   Posted 12/14/2009 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I admire you for all the exercise you're getting.  That's great!  Yes, breakfast is very important, just as all our moms told us.  smile    I hope that if you settle down with a regular meal plan (that is, eating three meals and maybe some snacks) that your numbers will not swing so wide.  There one caution I'd make about the diabetic recipes and that is they may be high in carbs.  True, they might now have sugar but the "sugar-free" desserts have flour and that will make your blood sugar rise just the same.  Actually, I never look at the so-called diabetic recipes for that reason.  mad  
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eddysgurl
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   Posted 12/16/2009 7:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes I have noticed that LOTS of the so called "No sugar" items contain lots of Carbs! Funny how people get away with writing entire Diabetic cookbooks and do not realize that Carbs effect us as well! Not just sugar! I am reading lots and learning what works for me...doesn't necessarily mean it will work for everyone.

Good day yesterday as far as levels go but this morning before breakfast 10.1??? Any advice for what to do when sugars are high? I have been told to drink lots of water and then retest??

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   Posted 12/17/2009 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Hmm, I'm not sure if drinking lots of water and then retesting would work but if you do it, let us know the results!  High results before breakfast?  Gosh, and I thought you were always waking up low!  Well, sometimes high fasting could be "dawn phenomenon" (Google that to learn more.).  For some people, eating a smal bedtime snack helps.  And it may depend on what you ate the night before and how late you ate.  So many factors involved....
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eddysgurl
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   Posted 12/17/2009 2:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I know!!! Most days I am low in the morning ...I'm a weird one! Will look up Dawn phenomenon and read about it! Thanks for all your assistance! Maybe not eating enough in the evening...maybe ate too late that night...???? I don't know! Am trying to do what I should but some days isn't clear what I should do. Is it possible that not eating enough can make it go up? I find days that I eat regularly and small meals it is perfect...those days where I skip a snack or have a later lunch is when its crazy! HIGH!

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   Posted 12/17/2009 3:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, that's possible.  For example if you wake up, test your blood sugar, then don't eat until much later in the morning, you might find your blood sugar higher before you eat at that time than it was when you woke up.  It's the body getting itself ready for activity because it needs energy.  I know that consistency works well for me, that is, eating the same size meals at regular times everyday.  I guess my body doesn't like surprises.  Well, I'm a diet-controlled diabetic so I'm sure that's why.
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