Ok non diabetic ? re morning bllod glucose

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cvc
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   Posted 2/16/2010 6:25 AM (GMT -7)   
I am a 50 yr old man with NO family history of diabetes but once or twice when having my anual blood work my glucose fasting has come back 100.  Dr said he is keeping an eye on it.
 
My boss gave me a meter ( one touch ) and strips so I could "play" because he had an extra one . The other day I had a big meal that night, pizza,wings,rasberry pie and ice cream, few glasses of skim milk about 8pm.
 
The next morning I got up showered, got dressed and then took it before eating, it was 125.  I then ate breakfast and about 4 hrs later and before lunch took it again and it was 95.
 
Same almost before supper.
 
Now this morning right after i got up it was 105, showered, made the bed etc, got dressed about 20 mins later before I ate I took it again it was 120 ????
 
My boss said it because my body is dumping extra glucose to get me going in the morning ???
 
 
will be 50 years old this year ( 2009 )
 
Uro said enlarged prostate 
 
DRE Negitive
 
Psa  2003- .55
 
     2007 - .99
 
     2008 -  1.01
 
watchfull worrier , lol


LanieG
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   Posted 2/16/2010 6:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Good morning, cvc.  I'm glad your doctor is concerned about the elevated fasting and that you now have a blood sugar meter.  I think what your boss is referring to is "dawn phenomenon".  (Sounds like you're getting more advice from your boss than your doctor?)  Sometimes the body does raise its blood sugar by itself early in the morning to give you the energy to start the day.  Maybe that's what's happening.  In any case, it seems to me that it was a fairly large meal that you ate at 8:00.  If you are having trouble metabolizing carbohydrates, your blood sugar would rise too much after a meal like that.  A few questions then.  Are you overweight?  Are you physically active? (play sports, exercise on a regular basis?) Do you eat a lot of food containing flour and sugar (like the pizza, pie and ice cream, bread, cereal, potatoes, etc.)?  If you answered, "yes, no, yes", then you may indeed be insulin resistent (cannot metabolize carbs efficiently).  If that's the case, this is something you can take control of now.  Please read through our past threads and also the stickies at the top of the Diabetes Forum for more information about what you can do.  Come back and ask questions, ok?
Lanie
 
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cvc
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   Posted 2/16/2010 7:11 AM (GMT -7)   

I am VERY active in the summer, not so this time of year. I am 5'9" tall about 190 pounds, lot of muscle and some fat too ! I am going to try and get back on my walking routine.

 

Yesterday I had at 12:00 noon a turkey sandwich with swiss and mayo on white bread, bottle of water, small bag of chips and a ( yea I know ) brownie.

 

I then went bowling for an hour or so. Took my level before supper at 5:30 it was like 95 ??

 

I just looked and my last 5 fasting tests at the Dr during routine bllod work were in the 90's  My boss just said IF you were to go to a reg DR they would tell you the numbers are too high, if you went to a diabetes Dr they would say you are fine, excersise daily and drink lots of water.

 

I dont drink much water either would this help ??


will be 50 years old this year ( 2009 )
 
Uro said enlarged prostate 
 
DRE Negitive
 
Psa  2003- .55
 
     2007 - .99
 
     2008 -  1.01
 
watchfull worrier , lol


cvc
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   Posted 2/16/2010 7:28 AM (GMT -7)   

Also I usually eat oatmeal with yougert and a glass of water every morning for breakfast NO sugar or anything else.

Will drinking alot of water help keep the numbers lower ??

 

thank you fro your help


will be 50 years old this year ( 2009 )
 
Uro said enlarged prostate 
 
DRE Negitive
 
Psa  2003- .55
 
     2007 - .99
 
     2008 -  1.01
 
watchfull worrier , lol


LanieG
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 5389
   Posted 2/16/2010 7:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi again.  I only know what I know from being a diabetic who has been controlling my blood sugar with diet and exercise.  I'm not a doctor, don't forget!  Anyway, I don't know if drinking water will help with the blood sugar but it would help in your general health as it's much better for your system than colas.  It looks like what's happening to you is what happens to a lot of people around this age and it's not critical as far as the blood sugar goes but it's great that you're aware of what's going on.  Simple facts: the more carbs you eat, the higher the blood sugar will go; less exercise = higher blood sugar.  So, those are the two factors that you have control of.   Your 95 before supper was fine (though a person without diabetes would have a lower blood sugar reading).  Bowling is not exactly an "active" sport but you were moving nonetheless.  The carbs in your lunch were the bread, the chips and the yea-you-know-brownie.  wink   So, you could just make small changes and probably see some results.  You could take away either the chips or the brownie; just eat one of them or eat half of each.  Then, add a daily 20 minute walk.  If the weather is too bad for that now, you can exercise while you watch TV; seriously, march in place, lift some weights, do squats but exercise during that time.  Since you're only at the beginning of all this, you really do have control.yeah 


Lanie
 
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Post Edited (LanieG) : 2/16/2010 8:46:24 AM (GMT-7)


LanieG
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   Posted 2/16/2010 7:40 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm not sure about the oatmeal.  The best kind to eat is the steel cut or long cooking because they have a more drawn out effect on many people's blood sugar; that is, the oatmeal causes a rise because it's a carb but it may take a longer time for the blood sugar to rise which is better than spiking.  The instant oatmeal may cause a higher rise - I'm not sure of its effect on you.  If the yogurt doesn't have sugar, that's better, of course.  In any case, it would help to take your blood sugar 2 hours after you start eating breakfast and see how it effects it. 
Lanie
 
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cvc
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   Posted 2/16/2010 11:08 AM (GMT -7)   
??? you say "the 95 before supper but a person w/o diab would be lower "  So you are saying I HAVE diabetes ??

will be 50 years old this year ( 2009 )
 
Uro said enlarged prostate 
 
DRE Negitive
 
Psa  2003- .55
 
     2007 - .99
 
     2008 -  1.01
 
watchfull worrier , lol


LanieG
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 5389
   Posted 2/16/2010 11:40 AM (GMT -7)   
NO!  I'm not a doctor!  I'm not diagnosing you.  I think you have a problem metabolizing carbs though.  Your doctor caught this when he saw your fasting blood sugar was rising.
Lanie
 
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diabetes controlled so far by exercise and a low/no carb diet


cvc
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   Posted 2/16/2010 1:22 PM (GMT -7)   

oh, ok, well I just re-read my blood reports and he states at the bottom of the one that was 107

 

" you do not have diabetes and your number is only slightly out of line but we will continue to watch it.All your other numbers lok fine"

I know IF my blood sugar gets below 85 I dont feel well at all.

 

 


will be 50 years old this year ( 2009 )
 
Uro said enlarged prostate 
 
DRE Negitive
 
Psa  2003- .55
 
     2007 - .99
 
     2008 -  1.01
 
watchfull worrier , lol


LanieG
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 5389
   Posted 2/16/2010 5:08 PM (GMT -7)   
So it seems the doctor is 'watching' to make sure your blood sugar is not continuing to rise.  As long as you stay in that area where you've been testing, then you're doing ok.  In the meantime, you can get a lot of information from the forum.  Good luck!
Lanie
 
forum moderator - diabetes
diabetes controlled so far by exercise and a low/no carb diet


petunia22
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   Posted 2/17/2010 7:12 AM (GMT -7)   
cvc ... I am in a similar situation... Recently found to have a fasting blood glucose level at 101.. Previous ones were in the 90,s creeping upward over the last few years. My dr. said eat low carb and that's all that was said. However I read a lot, and bought glucose meter thanks to this message board. I found when I did the carb test described in "blood sugar 101" website, that my blood surged up to 167 after a high carb meal. So I am very thankful to have gotten this wake up call. I need to retrict carbs quite a bit to prevent the surges. I have decided to eat as if I were diabetic already ( ie. low carb), in the hope of stemming the progression of the problem. I have given up white flour and sugar, and other high carb foods like potato, sweet potato, bananas, bread, etc. I also sometimes get the morning fasting numbers higher than going to bed numbers, and am working on trying to reduce the morning fasting number. Last night I ate a snack of ham and cheese and finally woke up to one that was 97 ( under 100 )..Good luck to you.. I have concluded from my reading that most drs have an under- reaction and that people could prevent some of the damaging consequences of diabetes if they made changes earlier..

loverain
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   Posted 2/17/2010 3:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Petunia,
Just wondering about what time you ate your snack before going to bed. I wake up with
FBGLs of 106-117 even though my two hour after meals numbers are good. I want to try a snack before I go to bed...an hour before bed...two hours before bed? I'm pre diabetic and don't take any meds. Thanks, Joni

cvc
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   Posted 2/17/2010 3:11 PM (GMT -7)   

my waking numbers are usually under 100, and before lunch and supper about the same. I have 2 friends that have diabetes and they said " quit worrying you are fine"

 

My numbers go up to like 140 2 hours after a big meal then back to 90's before the next meal.

 

I have checked my number right after getting up in the morning and it will be like 97, then shower, get dressed, and before eating breakfast it will be like 118

 

I was told this is normal that your body is dumping xtra glucose to get energy into your system ???

 

I need to drop about 10 pounds and start my walking routine again !


will be 50 years old this year ( 2009 )
 
Uro said enlarged prostate 
 
DRE Negitive
 
Psa  2003- .55
 
     2007 - .99
 
     2008 -  1.01
 
watchfull worrier , lol


LanieG
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 5389
   Posted 2/17/2010 3:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Petunia, what you wrote is nearly exactly my story except that my doctor (a GP) just recommended a "heart healthy" diet - which did not help.   I found out about low carb myself.  I've been controlling my blood sugar for about 3 years this way and my doctor is very happy. 
 
cvc, to prevent going up to 140 post prandial (after meal), you could eat less food during the meal.  What you're calling "dumping glucose" is probably dawn phenomenon.  Google that for a better explanation than what I can tell you.  I had put that in one of my responses above.  As for your diabetic friends, yes, maybe compared to their blood sugar readings they think you have nothing to worry about.  And maybe you don't in the long run but some of your blood sugar readings are too high at this point and it would be in your best health interest to keep them nearer to normal.  This is my opinion.
Lanie
 
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diabetes controlled so far by exercise and a low/no carb diet


petunia22
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   Posted 2/18/2010 9:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Joni, ( loverain) ,
 
To answer your question, I ate  the snack about an hour before I went to bed.  I am still new to this and trying to experiment to figure it out.  This morning my fasting number was 87.. Yippee.. Last night for a snack I ate some chicken liver, a small piece of crustless pizza that my husband made, and some red wine.
I"m avoiding carbs as much as possible during the evening.  And eating low carb the rest of the day.  I'm trying to bring all my numbers down and then will gradually try adding in more carb foods one at a time  and see what effect they have on my blood sugar..
  
  

loverain
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   Posted 2/19/2010 8:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Petunia,

Thank you so much for your reply. I have been eating low carb for a few months now and have lost seventeen pounds and have lowered my Post Prandial numbers but continue to be plauged with high FBG. I'm working on it and will continue. My FBG is lower since I started low carbing but still too high. It will be great to see a "normal" number! I'll be interested to see how you do in adding more carb foods. Please keep us posted. I've added a few more carbs...some foods zoomed me to the moon so I knew I couldn't eat them at all! Other foods have not spiked me at all but I gained a couple of pounds eating them so they are a no-no. We'll see. This is a great forum...I've gained so much knowledge and everyone is so nice!
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