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petunia22
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   Posted 2/23/2010 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Woke up this morning to 124...  highest morning in my one month of testing.  I did the control solution and that checked out okay.  Here's the question.. You know how 126 is the magic number that says you are diabetic for fasting glucose level?  Well, what if you have Dawn Phenomenon.. can we therefore discount the high morning numbers, as being less significant?
In other words, the problem is not  really as bad as it looks, because it's just dawn phenomenon...
 
   I"m trying to figure out why on earth the number is so high.  I had two things at dinner ( 6:00pm)  that were moderate carb that each separately had been fine...  ( 1/3 c. of blueberries and a wedge of acorn squash (less than  1/8 of a squash ).  I think i've learned you can only have one of these at a time.  Also realized I had stopped taking the vinegar and cinnamon.  Will start back with the vinegar. Does anyone out there think cinnamon helps?

Marburg
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   Posted 2/23/2010 11:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Blueberries makes my bs high. I don't get a spike with acorn squash. I'm not sure about cinnamon. I think it kind of depends on the individual. For me, I don't see any spikes with cinnamon, but it also doesn't seem to lower my bs any either. Vinegar will drop my bs quite a bit.

LanieG
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   Posted 2/23/2010 4:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't believe in any magic number as diagnosing diabetes.  I think that's from the old parameters anyway.  Labs now say anything over 100 is impaired glucose fasting.  If this were happening regularlyto me,  I would do anything I could to get those readings down.  I would cut out those carbs at dinner and go for some piece of meat,chicken or fish and a couple of vegetables from the list we've been long talking about and a little side salad or a couple of pieces of salad food like radishes and cucumbers.  If you feel you need a before bed snack, make it protein like nuts, cheese or a lettuce wrap with a piece of deli meat and or cheese.  Then see what your fasting is the next morning.


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petunia22
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   Posted 2/24/2010 3:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for the ideas, Marburg and Lanie. I think you are right.. For now.. no more fruit and will stick to the list and take vinegar.

Jeannie143
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   Posted 2/25/2010 11:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Petunia,
Don't short yourself on nutrition worrying about a number like 126. There are things in fruit that you can't get any other way. You can take a walk after a meal and bring that number down or you can run up and down stairs a few times with the same result. Just my 2¢ but I'd be looking at more than food plan to get the numbers in line. You need a variety of foods to stay healthy and fruits, especially vitamin C and anti-oxidant ones are good for you. Granted, some fruits, like pears, are just sugar in a pretty package. But don't loose the goodness of healthy fruits... The rest of your life will not be as much fun without an occasional bite of watermelon or handfull of sweet cherries.

Like I said... just my 2¢.
~ Jeannie


petunia22
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   Posted 2/26/2010 11:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jeannie,
Oh... more food for thought. I surely do like fruits, but thought I should try to get my overall numbers down lower ( SOMEHOW IF I COULD ONLY FIGURE OUT HOW!_)
and then gradually add back in some fruit. Lately I"ve been trying to follow Dr. Berenstein's recommendations, which is 6 carbs breakfast, and 12 for lunch and dinner. And wait 4 to 5 hours between eating. Unfortunately, I'm losing too much weight. Down to 116, so I think I am not getting enough food this way. But since I"m not dramatically improving my numbers this way, I'm thinking maybe the number of carbs in a food doesn't matter so much as how your body responds to that particular food..
I surely get confused, but will plod along.

Jeannie143
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   Posted 2/26/2010 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Add in a few more monounsaturated fats to the mix. (Olives, olive oil and nuts) They won't hurt your numbers and they are good for your heart and might help keep the weight on. Cheese is another good food. Low carb, higher in the fat category and lots of calcium for a lady's delicate bones. (Tee hee!)
~ Jeannie
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