I cannot eat potato chips

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jujub
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   Posted 5/4/2010 6:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Had some for dinner yesterday. My fasting this morning was 134. After behaving myself all day, it was 94 this evening. Freaky the different ways foods affect us.


Fortunately, I really don't like potato chips that much.

LanieG
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   Posted 5/5/2010 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I've learned that for me even having a piece of bread during a meal really really messes up my blood sugar.  That's even accounting for the protein and fats which supposedly would smooth out the spikes.  Potatoes, potato chips?  Just looking at them will give me a spike, so I know that I cannot eat them or anything with flour if I don't want to be disappointed with my blood sugar later on. 
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jujub
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   Posted 5/5/2010 11:04 AM (GMT -7)   
I seem to do okay with carbs in small to moderate amounts, but not chips. I just find it fascinating how differently our bodies react to things. Small servings of potatoes don't seem to bother me; chips yes. And pasta with red sauce will lower my reading every time.

Makes me wonder if it's a multi-gene thing and your responses depend on which genes are involved. Wouldn't it be strange if type II were really a whole group of closely related conditions?

Jeannie143
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   Posted 5/5/2010 8:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Judy,
I figure it's basically gremlins. They get inside our blood stream and wreak havoc on the numbers. Couldn't be what we are eating... LOL!
~ Jeannie
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TVEditor
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   Posted 5/6/2010 6:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Nope. It's cosmic rays. I've only been wearing my tinfoil hat for 6 months now so it's too early to tell if this works but I do feel better. Sure, I get laughed at ... but they laughed at Freud, they laughed at Einstein, they laughed at Throckmorton ... well, Throckmorton was just funny-looking but you get my point :-)
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LanieG
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   Posted 5/6/2010 8:59 AM (GMT -7)   
No, Chris, I can't see your point because your TIN HAT is covering it!  turn
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jujub
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   Posted 5/6/2010 9:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey, I'm funny looking enought without a tin hat! Maybe I could just make myself an umbrella out of aluminum foil?

Jeannie, I just blame everything on my immune system. It hates me. I'm not so fond of it, either. But I will prevail!

Jeannie143
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   Posted 5/6/2010 10:51 AM (GMT -7)   
I want a tin hat!
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LanieG
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   Posted 5/6/2010 1:12 PM (GMT -7)   
 
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There!

Post Edited (LanieG) : 5/7/2010 11:41:27 AM (GMT-6)


TVEditor
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   Posted 5/6/2010 3:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Not tin ... tinfoil! Maybe that's why you're not getting results turn

... or tuning in radio stations tongue

(I thought this board was supposed to serious all the time?!?)smilewinkgrin

Judy: Try the Tinfoil Hat ... don't laugh ... I said "DON'T LAUGH!" (nobody listens to me ;-) )
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Post Edited (TVEditor) : 5/6/2010 5:29:48 PM (GMT-6)


TVEditor
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   Posted 5/6/2010 6:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Judy: Ignore these metal hatless, femmes fatales; you may be onto something regarding your pasta & red sauce (I assume you mean tomato sauce?). I too have had some successes when adding acidic things to otherwise no-no foods (fries with vinegar, lemonade with an open face-sandwich, etc.). I can tolerate (like) a lot of sour tastes so I experiment in the interests of personal science. There must be something to this. Maybe because we are in the early stages of Type II, acid vs. sweet works?
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LanieG
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   Posted 5/6/2010 7:06 PM (GMT -7)   
This is probably why the vinegar works for some people.  Something about the acidity and blood sugar.  I have rarely had any tomato-based sauces normally used with pasta in the last few years.  However, I did make some and served it on chicken with parmesan and provolone, "chicken parmesan", though and it was ok but with pasta, I'm sure my blood sugar would go really high.  (metal hatless?  femme fatale?  tongue )
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jujub
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   Posted 5/6/2010 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Interesting, Chris. I've always had a taste for sour - vinegary dressings, dill pickles, lemon and lime. Interestingly, my husband has always responded to tomato-based sauce on pasta the same way I do. I literally can eat spagetti with marinara or meat sauce and a salad for dinner and throw down a 94 two hours later.

Jeannie143
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   Posted 5/6/2010 9:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I nominate Judy for "brat of the month" for bragging about eating pasta and getting a 94 two hours later!

Lanie, that hat looks suspiciously like a witch hat... are you trying to tell me something?

(Later) Oooo! The hat looks much better now! Thx!
~ Jeannie
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Post Edited (Jeannie143) : 5/8/2010 12:57:27 PM (GMT-6)


jujub
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   Posted 5/7/2010 5:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie, with the multiple diagnoses we have, we should be allowed some indulgences!

But yeah, I'm a pasta-loving, hatless brat.

LanieG
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   Posted 5/7/2010 10:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Check out the tinfoil hat now, Jeannie.

Phishbowl
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   Posted 5/7/2010 12:05 PM (GMT -7)   
OK, you Mods are having way to much fun! What will people think? (All good, for sure :-)

Sorry... been "away" for a while but, I'm back. Mostly. (Been keeping up with the forum posts though).

BTW... Mmmmm, love chips. Salt & vinegar. Love fries, too. With salt & white vinegar of course. Maybe that's why I seem to tolerate potatoes (that way) more than any other starch. The vinegar mitigates the spike? Hmmmm, maybe we have something there. Now if we can just get you American folks into trying the S&V on your fries (I always have to take my own McD's packages when I travelled there).

Rice, on the other hand....I think I have to count a carb for each grain. If I eat it I usually "sprinkle" it on something main. Rice=Bad, even for a T1 like me.

P.S. MY tinfoil hat is a fedora :-)

Cheers,
Kris
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LanieG
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   Posted 5/7/2010 12:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, Kris!  You're back!  Glad to see you again!  How's everything?  Love the fedora! 
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Phishbowl
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   Posted 5/7/2010 12:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Hiya, Lanie! Glad to be back. Been a rocky road on a few fronts lately but, things are starting to level out now. Just Life being Life and having some fun with us as it is wont to do at times. (Some recent posts from others can attest to that :-)

I actually have some questions/posts about some things...stay tuned.

Kris
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TVEditor
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   Posted 5/7/2010 3:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Welcome back Kris turn
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jujub
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   Posted 5/7/2010 4:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, Kris. I'm a Judy, I'm another Type II. Just started meds after about 7 years, so I decided to join in here.

Phishbowl
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   Posted 5/7/2010 5:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey, thanks for the welcome replies, guys :-)

Hope you're feeling better these days, Chris? Not that I've had but, I've seen how excruciating kidney stones can be. Sorry to hear you went through that :-(

Been following your story, Judy. Glad to see you're here getting some really good advice and support (as usual). For the most part, Diabetes has pretty basic rules. It's the trying to live by them that challenges most of us :-) You're not alone.

Cheers,
Kris
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"What's Not Measured Is Not Managed"

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Jeannie143
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   Posted 5/8/2010 12:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Glad to see you back, Phish! Was kinda wondering where you had gotten yourself off to... Hope things are leveling out a bit in your life. I'm crazy busy with wedding cakes and lots of brides (goofy, dumb and wonderful!) so life is good. Take care and don't be such a stranger. We miss your very solid advice.
~ Jeannie
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leosmith678
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   Posted 5/10/2010 6:21 AM (GMT -7)   
If you really want to keep your diabetes in completely control and low then you should avoid all carbohydrates eatables because it contains high amount of starch which increases the level of diabetes.
Mistakes are the portals of discovery.


Phishbowl
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   Posted 5/10/2010 6:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Not all carbs contain starch, leo. There are good carbs and bad carbs. I think what you're trying to say is to avoid those carbs that do contain starch, right? We like to refer to that as the "nothing white but cauliflower and cheese" plan. It avoids the starchy potatoes, rice, pastas, breads & things made with flour and sugar.

Give up the leafy greens and veggies I eat every day because they have carbs? Never :-)
Cheers,
- Phishbowl (Type 1 since Jan'05 - Levemir, NovoRapid)
"What's Not Measured Is Not Managed"

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows"-Epictetus

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