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Marburg
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   Posted 8/2/2010 9:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone have any exerpeince with Ross Chocolates or Simply Lite?  I've tried the Simply lite and found that it had very little impact in my bs in that after 2 hours I saw a rise in bs of less that 7 points.  It also tastes very good.
 
From what I know Ross Chocolates were created by a diabetic and are supposed to be diabetic friendly.
 
Thoughts?

LanieG
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   Posted 8/2/2010 10:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I have not tried (or even heard of) them before.  I did a search for Ross Chocolates and the website says the chocolate is sweetened with maltitol, a sugar alcohol.  People may have different reactions to maltitol but mostly I've read that there are no initial blood sugar spikes and that the blood sugar rise is drawn out, so the chocolate probably wouldn't cause too much of a rise - just as you experienced.  I have Lindt 85% Cocoa (extra dark) bar which I nibble on.  It has some amount of sugar in it after the chocolate, cocoa powder and cocoa butter ingredients and the package says 8 gr. carb per 4 squares.  I never eat 4 squares at a time so this doesn't bother my blood sugar either.  Well, we know that chocolate is good for us, so enjoy it!
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Marburg
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   Posted 8/2/2010 10:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Lanie. The Simply Lite is available in my local Walmart. The net carb is 2 gr per serving which is just under 1/3 of the bar. The bars are pretty good in size but a little pricey at $1.47 per bar. I've tried the Lindt extra dark and dark but found I really don't like the taste. The Simply Lite has Milk Chocolate, dark and several with nuts.

The Ross Chocolates are not available in any stores in my area and I was just wondering if anyone had tried them and what their thoughts were. I really don't want to order a box of 12 to find out that I don't like them or can't eat them.

So--for now I'm happy with the Simply Lite. I find that when I'm stressed or depressed a little chocolate helps keeps things in emotional balance.

And, chocolate is good for the heart (my cardiologist said there are some heart benefits to chocolate as long as you eat it in moderation). :-)

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   Posted 8/2/2010 12:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, $1.47 a bar seems high but you're not eating an entire bar and I'm sure you're making it last awhile.  One bar a week is reasonable, so enjoy it.  :-)    And you have the blessings of your doctor, too!  WalMart carried the Adkins Endulge Caramel Nut (I think that's the name.) bar and it has a very very low carb content.  The problem is that it tastes like a regular candy bar and is easy to go overboard on, so I don't buy it anymore because I know myself too well.  blush
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Marburg
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   Posted 8/2/2010 12:57 PM (GMT -7)   
When I open a bar, I divide it in thirds and wrap up the remaining 2/3 and put it away so I'm not tempted to finish off the bar. Although, I the first time I bought them I did eat the entire bar. My bs went up less than 10 points over 2 hours.

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   Posted 8/3/2010 7:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh chocolate! Food from the Gods! I'm going to Walmart to look for some today. I will be very good and eat only a small piece and check to see what it does to my BS. Take one little bitty piece and let it set in my mouth...yummy! Thanks y'all for posting this chocolate information. I'm pre diabetic...med free. Thanks to this place and all the nice people I'm staying that way. Joni

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   Posted 8/3/2010 7:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Joni, that's a great idea!  You can be our GP (guinea pig)!  Test the blood sugar. Eat some of the chocolate (tell us how much you eat), and test after 2 hours and report back to us.  I might go out and get some today, too, and I'll be a GP.  Sacrifices we do in the name of health and science!  tongue
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   Posted 8/3/2010 9:21 AM (GMT -7)   
I'd love to see if you guys get the same results I did with the chocolate.

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   Posted 8/3/2010 10:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I'll buy it tomorrow.  After errands to four places and then the supermarket, I just couldn't face the hot parking lot at WalMart.  It's 100 in the sun here.  smhair
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   Posted 8/3/2010 11:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow--sounds like us. I have a heat index of 108 - Southeast Texas.

LanieG
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   Posted 8/3/2010 11:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Just outside Memphis.  98 in the shade, 103 in the sun at our house. I think our tomatoes are stewing on the vine!  Maybe if I put some steaks outside our whole dinner can be broiled in the sun!  cool    (That's on the thermometers.  I have no idea about the heat index...)
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   Posted 8/3/2010 7:44 PM (GMT -7)   
smurf  dear chocolate (my favourite subject mmmmmmmm)
 
I buy the no sugar added Russell Stover line of chocolates in fact I am having one now nono yeah

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   Posted 8/4/2010 11:58 AM (GMT -7)   
That's interesting, but all that is imported here. I think some might be available, but I'm not even sure. The local no-sugar chocolates taste like wood so I don't eat much of any chocolate at all... <_<

We've also had a hot summer. Some warm winds from Russia (imagine that) raised the temperature to around 30-35C in shade daily for a few weeks. That's just short of 100F at worst. And I live in Helsinki.. at latitude 60N. It's cooler now after thunderstorms, but it was terrible at the office in July because the A/C wasn't working.

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   Posted 8/4/2010 12:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Chocolate! Yum! In small amounts, indulge away! The fat content in chocolate is high enough to slow the release of the sugars so it's actually an approved treat. The sugar absorption rate is so slow that chocolate bars are NOT recommended for treatment of low blood sugar episodes.
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Marburg
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   Posted 8/4/2010 1:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Lanie, Sounds like your temps are about like ours. We're looking at 100 with an index of 105-110 today. Tomatos wilted, flowers wilted, etc.

Chaul22--seems like the world is in a heat wave.

Nanmojo, I love the Russell Stover chocolates--unfortunately they shoot my bs sky high.

Jeannie--I didn't know that. Unfortunately I can't eat regular chocolates because they do make my bs skyrocket. However, I have found that ones made with the sugar alcohol malitol do not. So, now I enjoy the Simply Lite brand. Not too much though--because malitol can act like a laxative.

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   Posted 8/5/2010 7:12 PM (GMT -7)   
my experence.........how can I say this?.....Uah-better buy some Peptol Bibsol (sp?) pink stuff while your there buying the candy

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   Posted 8/6/2010 8:06 AM (GMT -7)   
I recently found Guylian sugar free, 70% dark chocolate very good and low carb woth none of that funny after taste abd only 3g carb per suare

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   Posted 8/6/2010 9:49 AM (GMT -7)   
For me.... I've learned to stay away from all sugar-free products (natural sugar replaced with sugar alcohol and/or substitutes). Those chemicals do strange things to me :-(

I'll stick to eating the natural stuff (cane sugar, honey, stevia, etc.), which seems to be more predictable and doesn't have the side effects (the bathroom visits are reason enough for me :-)

I eat a square of dark Lindt chocolate every night after dinner. At 2-3 grams of carbs a square, sometimes I even eat 2!

I'll take the real stuff any day but, that's me :-)
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Marburg
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   Posted 8/6/2010 11:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi phishbowl.

I wish I could eat the real stuff but I can't. Chocolate with real sugar makes my bs skyrocket (even 1 square) and the one that doesn't Lindt dark I just don't like. So to have a few pieces made with a sugar alcohol that doesn't make my bs shoot the moon is a wonderful treat to me. I don't eat it every day and not the whole bar (except every once in awhile during peak stress). It doesn't make me rush to the bathroom (but it could for some folks).

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   Posted 8/8/2010 10:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hiya Marburg!

I hear ya and certainly appreciate what you're saying :-) When I was (thought) a Type 2 for a couple of years, I tried just about anything sugar-free. The taste thing was a biggie for me but, I found Russell Stover S/F chocolates to be yummy and tolerable (digestive-wise). To be fair, most things I tried weren't chocolate and there was a difference between which sugar substitutes caused the most problems. The side effects were most noticeable when larger quantities of the stuff was eaten :-)

If you can find something enjoyable that doesn't skyrocket your BGL, then go for it! You already know about the moderation part :-)

Cheers,
Kris
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   Posted 8/9/2010 5:59 PM (GMT -7)   
The low-sugar, high-cocoa chocolates are an acquired taste. There was a time when I would (and would want to) eat a whole box of those chocolate-covered, marshmallow cookies with the jam in the centre -- I mean, they're mostly air right? (not!)

When I made my decision to eat better, I cut out chocolate entirely. That was OK for a while but I ended up craving/missing something. Then Jeannie/Lanie/somebody told me about the high-cocoa, no-milk chocolate bars (Lindt 90% cocoa and the like ... reminded me of the Baker's Chocolate me mom used to use & I used to sneak of piece of when I was knee-high to a footstool). It took a while to retrain my brain & tastebuds but the chocolate squares are tolerable now .... even looked-forward to.

Getting creative, I learned to make a dessert out of a piece of cheese, a handful of cashews, some yogurt and a couple of squares of the Lindt bars (in that order ... the piece of fatty cheese slows down the absorption of the carbs in my experience but as Phish says, 'that's me' so YMMV). The upshot is that my brain now thinks I'm eating a chocolate sundae! Who am I to correct it? ;-)

An added incentive to not overdo (at least for us Canadians) is that even Wal-Mart charges about $3.50 a bar for these healthy foods so pigging out on them isn't a reality. Last week, I found another apparent generic alternative at Wal-Mart but after checking the label, it turns out that the 50% price saving would mean a double in carb content so that was a no-no.

Anyway, experiment on you. I do it all the time. Eat ... test ... think ... decide :-)

Chocolate roolze dudes & dudettes! (or whatever the kids say nowadays ;-)
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   Posted 8/12/2010 2:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Something just occurred to me....I don't think I've ever tried eating chocolate just on its own.

I mean, desserts, ice cream, etc, and my daily square of Lindt.... have always been after dinner (or sometimes, lunch). My dinners are almost always low-ish carb like a piece of protein and salad (veggie bowl :-) being the norm. I'm just thinking that the 2-3 grams of chocolate square probably gets swallowed up in all the protein and fat of dinner.

Hmmm, maybe I'll have to experiment. Aw, shucks :-)

Cheers,
Kris
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   Posted 8/13/2010 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
MMMMmmm! Chocolate experiments... Chocolate-y-lish-ous....
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Marburg
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   Posted 8/23/2010 10:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cmouse--I tried the Guylian sugar free and like it.

Hi Kris--did you experiment?

I'm with you Jeannie--Chocolate experiments---YUM! :-)

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   Posted 11/12/2010 6:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello sweetlovers:@)
Here's what info I gathered on these candies:

These "sugar free" candies contain sugar alcohols. Sugar alcohols do contain carbs but since the sugar alcohols are not completely digested the carbs they contain do not affect BG levels as "real" sugar carbs do. Some people experience a laxative effect from the sugar alcohols at even small amounts while others do not suffer these effects with any amount. Some people experience a marked BG rise after ingesting sugar alcohols while others experience little or no rise at all.

The bottom line is that not all people can tolerate sugar alcohols and those that can't should simply avoid them. For those of us who can tolerate the sugar alcohols, they are a great way to satisfy our sweet tooth without consequence.
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