l arginine effect on blood glucose

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Grover
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   Posted 5/3/2011 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   
I am borderline diabetic, as my typical fasting glucose in the morning is 115-125. However, I began taking just 1000mg of L- arginine recently for my heart and now my morning readings have been 101-104. I've read coflicting info on the web...some say L arginine will raise glucose levels and others say it works to help the cells absorb the blood glucose and thus lowers blood glucose levels.

anybody have any similar experience? thanks.

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LanieG
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   Posted 5/3/2011 9:44 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know about that supplement.  The conflicting information is probably because people have different reactions to both food and these supplements.
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Grover
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   Posted 5/5/2011 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
thanks for that info on molybdenum "It's Genetic", but I was asking about the amino acid L Arginine.

LanieG
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   Posted 5/5/2011 9:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know why It's Genetic is mis-reading the posts here on Diabetes.  I know you asked about L-arginine.  Sorry.
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Grover
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   Posted 5/8/2011 6:10 AM (GMT -7)   
For what it's worth, I stopped taking the L Arginine for 2 days this week and my morning fasting glucose went back up to around 115. I resumed taking 1000mg 2x/day and it again dropped to the mid 90s. I'm not suggesting anyone else try it, but for me this apparently works. There apparently needs to be more research on this amino acid and it's effects for diabetics as I can find no consensus on whether it should be used.

LanieG
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   Posted 5/8/2011 6:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Grover, may I ask how you learned about L-Arginine in the first place?  I have never read about this in relation to diabetes.
Lanie

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Grover
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   Posted 5/8/2011 7:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Lanie,
I kind of stumbled on to it :) I've had some heart issues and saw an interview with Dr. Joseph Mercola on Dr. Oz's tv show recently. He recommended L Arginine for heart disease. I did some more reading and found many others agree that this amino acid stimulates production of nitric oxide, which is beneficial to the lining of the arteries and could help those of us with coronary artery disease. So I began taking a small dose (1000mg) and noticed my fasting morning glucose dropped from 115-125 range to around 101-104. And like I said in my previous post, 2000mg daily dropped it further into the mid 90s.

I did a google search using " L arginine insulin sensitivity" and found some studies that suggest it improves insulin sensitivity. Here's one:

http://www.diabeter.cn/diabetes-knowledge/l-arginine-therapy-may-improve-insulin-sensitivity.html

Let me be clear...I'M NOT A DOCTOR AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING ANYONE TAKE THIS SUPPLEMENT WITHOUT FIRST DISCUSSING IT WITH THEIR DOCTOR. I just thought I'd ask fellow diabetics in a forum like this one if they had any experience like mine.

LanieG
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   Posted 5/9/2011 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks, Grover.  And for reminding us no one is a doctor here. 
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Ornea07
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   Posted 7/18/2014 6:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Arginine stimulates the beta-cells of the Islets of Langerhans of the pancreas to secrete insulin.

LanieG
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   Posted 7/18/2014 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   
I would suggest informing your doctor if you're taking any supplements like this.
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montebello
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   Posted 7/29/2016 1:57 PM (GMT -7)   
hi lanie

I am responding to l argininer effects after reading Grover comments or for anybody who can answer/help.

I was diagnosed with type2 diabetes 2 week. my fasting level was 131. i am 64; not been in the hospital; not been sick throughout 30 years of working. searched for cure for diabetes referring me to l arginine. My doctor prescribed metformin. I started metformin it did not changed after fasting checks so I tried l arginine 1000 X 2 daily before meals suggested by a research article and started seeing lower fasting levels before eating 127 and 118 before bedtime after checking. I changed my diet and life style also although i am not a starchy eater or sweets eater.

Should I take metformin along with l arginine> Shoud i not eat protein while using l arginine

LanieG
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   Posted 7/29/2016 2:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Welcome to HealingWell, montebello. I cannot answer any questions or give advice about l-arginine supplements. I don't take it. I would suggest you ask your prescribing doctor and also consult a pharmacist. And I would not suggest taking it without asking your doctor.

I will give you the standard advice about eating for diabetes and high blood sugar problems, though. The more carbohydrates you eat, the higher your blood sugar will be. We all know the obvious carbs like potatoes, rice and any food made with flour and sugar but almost every vegetable out there has carbs, some more than others, so testing is important for individuals to see how their blood sugar behaves when eating things like squash, carrots, peas, etc. Those have quite a few carbs although not as many as potatoes and corn (which is a grain, of course).

Protein is important in our diet but we should not eat protein exclusively because we need other nutrients which is why we should be eating lots of leafy greens and colorful vegetables, nuts, and some dairy.

Metformin works with a low-carb diet and exercise. Don't take it on an empty stomach or if you eat greasy/fried food and a lot of carbs because it can cause stomach upset.

Here is a website that has a lot of information about blood sugar. It's nick-named Blood Sugar 101: www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

And I also recommend reading Diabetes Solution by Dr. Richard Bernstein, who is a medical doctor and a type 1.

I'm glad you found our forum and I would be happy if you started a new thread to introduce yourself!
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Lanie

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Nana Monster
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   Posted 8/18/2016 7:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Monetbello....I haven't tried the L Arganine but would definitely look into it as I'm a heart patient too.
I've been taking Berberine which works the same as metformin without the chemicals. I did a lot of
research before starting it and found it takes the same pathways and has lowered mine from 175-
300's on an average to 110-160's. Even being sick with a raging sinus and throat infection along with.
arthritis, lupus and fibro pain the numbers are less than half of what they used to be. I use Solaray
brand and take 2 capsules 3x a day with meals. You can take it either with or shortly after the meal
and it still works. It's a mix of Oregon Grape Seed and Barbary Root , works with the heart as well
as the diabetes and has left me with the softest skin I've had since I was young (I'm now 62). I've
been on it for 6 weeks now. Let me know how you make out with the L-Arganine.

Nana Monster
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