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TATT
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   Posted 3/25/2005 5:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm new to all this, my husband just found out he is a diabetic, we have two small children and we eat a meal as a family just about every night, i just need to know what to cook and serve now, we are being supportive and not going to let him do it alone. I hope you guys can give me as much information as possible, ty

Pin Cushion
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   Posted 3/26/2005 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Tatt,
Being newly dx is scary and can make you feel helpless on what to do what to eat. Hopefully he will get an appointment with a diabetic educator soon, you can go with him if he wants you too, they can be a great help.
For now as far as your regular meals just fix what you always have but try and stay away from sugars and anything that is high in carbs. No cakes or candys. switch to artificial sweetners in coffee, and sugar free drinks.
The upside can be if you all start on a healthier eating plan at meals you all will benifit from it. Many diabetics get relief from other ailments if they take this bull by the horn and watch what they eat and keep a tight control on what they do and eat.
lets us know how it is going and tell us if he is type 1 (Have to take shots) or type (taking pills) and ask away with any questions you have, the only stupid question is the one that is unasked

AL
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 3/26/2005 11:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Tatt,
First of all, yeah give yourself a pat on the back for being so supportive of your sweetie. Also, the food lessons you teach your children now will be a big help to them later since there is a chance that they may develope diabetes as well. You need to have your doctor prescribe diet classes for you and your hubby at a nearby medical center or teaching hospital. Most towns with a university will have one of these. If not that, then you need to get an appointment with a registered dietician to do the training. Please! For the sake of your husband's heart, eyes and feet, please get this training! I was diagnosed with diabetes 10 yrs ago and I have to retake my training next month because so much has changed since my first training. Make sure he gets an annual eye exam with an opthamologist (not an optomotrist), gets to a podiatrist for ANY foot problems including athletes foot or ingrown toenails. These conditions going untreated can lead to loss of a limb.

Encourage him to keep a food diary with a carb count and to test his blood sugar at least once a day first thing in the morning and hopefully once more before a meal or before bed. He will need to keep track of this for his doctor and for himself so he can see which foods really send his sugar up. Ask him to tell you which meals helped his blood sugar readings and which ones you need to modify.

You will still cook regular food but you may find that you change your starches in your meals. I use a lot less rice, potatoes and pasta and cook more with barley, brown rice and bulgar wheat. [Whole grains release carbs into the blood stream at a slower rate and prevent such high blood sugar peaks.] I also don't make as much pasta stuff, lasagna or spaghetti.. When I do I substitute fresh spinach or collard greens for some of the noodle layers, and use spaghetti squash with the spaghetti to lessen the carb load. I keep a lot of fresh fruit and fresh salad stuff around. He can't have more than 4 oz. of fruit juice at a time and it's much better for him to eat fresh fruit so be sure to keep that around for him and the kids. (Cell walls in plants slow down digestion of the fructose and slow blood sugar peaks.) You should try to have more produce than canned goods in your shopping cart. There should be salad (made with spinach or greens or zuchinni or cabbage, not just lettuce) at least three times a week.

He should also be encouraged to join the Y or find some other form of regular (I'm talking three times a week!) exercise. I swim. Some people walk or play golf or bowl, some ride stationary bikes while they watch TV. This must become a regular part of his daily stuff and not get eliminated because you get busy. Lack of exercise leads to insulin resistance so he will need more meds to get the sugar into his cells for energy. If he doesn't exercise every other day he will start to get tired all the time and his sugars will go up. Increased sugars over 150 lead to permanent damage to the kidneys, eyes and arteries. Increased sugars are also the leading cause of neuropathy which affects the feelings in his feet and hands as well as his sexual arousal response. It's very important that he test his sugar often and try to keep it under 120 (or whatever his doctor dictates) before meals. The kids can become helpers in this by reminding him about his testing or offering to go swim, walk or whatever with him.

For this first year or so while he adjusts to his diagnosis and all it entails he may go through a grieving period... He will miss being able to eat or drink whatever he wants. He may feel saddened and confined by charts and tests and pills. This is very normal and you must encourage him to accept his dx and KOKO (keep on keepin' on!) for you and the kids. Your attitude about taking a walk each night after dinner (the dishes will still be there when you get back) or making regular visits to the Y will go a long way toward all of you adjusting to his new lifestyle.

Diabetes is all about choices. I choose to eat healthy and exercise. I want to be buried with my feet still attached. I don't want to go blind. I don't want to go on kidney dialisis. Sometimes I choose unwisely... but then I get right back on the horse for the next meal... I don't like counting.. I don't like reading labels (especially since my eyes have gotten to the 'bifocal' stage!) I don't like counting carbs, I don't like swimming all the time (ruins my hair color! LOL!), I don't like being different from my friends who can have a few drinks and dessert when we go to lunch... But this was the hand I was dealt.. I need to make the best of it and get on with my life.

Take care and return often to read and learn. Try to get HIMSELF to join the forum. He will then be responsible for his own health and can learn to take care of himself instead of having the doctor do it....
Good luck,
~ Jeannie

"As one goes through life one learns if you don't paddle your own canoe you don't move."
-Katherine Hepburn


Pin Cushion
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   Posted 3/27/2005 10:45 PM (GMT -7)   
"Diabetes is all about choices. I choose to eat healthy and exercise. I want to be buried with my feet still attached. I don't want to go blind. I don't want to go on kidney dialisis. Sometimes I choose unwisely... but then I get right back on the horse for the next meal... I don't like counting.. I don't like reading labels (especially since my eyes have gotten to the 'bifocal' stage!) I don't like counting carbs, I don't like swimming all the time (ruins my hair color! LOL!), I don't like being different from my friends who can have a few drinks and dessert when we go to lunch... But this was the hand I was dealt.. I need to make the best of it and get on with my life."

THANKS JEANNIE! I can not have been said any better!
Sigmoid Colostomy / Crohns / Type 1 Diabetic / Ostioarthritus / Asthma / High Blood Pressure / High Colesterol / Migraines. Ain't life a joy?



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TATT
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Date Joined Mar 2005
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   Posted 3/31/2005 3:22 PM (GMT -7)   
 Well ty guys for all the information and support, we have made an eye appointment and so far he has been doing pretty good, he is taking pills right now, doing pretty good with the meal planning now. Thank you and hope all is well.

quigs
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   Posted 4/8/2005 3:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Tatt, try searching the net for DAFNE. This is a training program, normally run in your local diabetes clinic. DAFNE stands for "dose adjustment for normal eating". The course teaches diabetics how to rate food in tearms of
units of insulin. The course is run for eight hours a day for five days. When they say "normal eating", they mean just that!. You can eat what you want, when you want. I'm waiting to get on such a course. Best of luck!.

Pin Cushion
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   Posted 4/11/2005 12:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I sure wish they had DAFNE in the states. I would love to try it.
Sigmoid Colostomy / Crohns / Type 1 Diabetic / Ostioarthritus / Asthma / High Blood Pressure / High Colesterol / Migraines. Ain't life a joy?



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great guru
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   Posted 8/9/2005 2:18 PM (GMT -7)   
TATT said...
 Well ty guys for all the information and support, we have made an eye appointment and so far he has been doing pretty good, he is taking pills right now, doing pretty good with the meal planning now. Thank you and hope all is well.
What about monitoring glucose. Buy a good glucometer (One Touch Basic is good for starter), check every day morning fasting sugar. It will give very good idea about sugar level and motivate the person to adjust their food.
 

Cristina
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   Posted 8/10/2005 1:09 AM (GMT -7)   
I suggest STEVIA as a sweetener. It is all natural (leaf extract), it has zero carbs and it tastes great in any kind of pie, or home-made treat. Any natural market store would carry it.

great guru
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   Posted 8/10/2005 11:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Cristina said...
I suggest STEVIA as a sweetener. It is all natural (leaf extract), it has zero carbs and it tastes great in any kind of pie, or home-made treat. Any natural market store would carry it.
Unfortunately it should not be sold as sweetner (influence by Splenda , NeutaSweet - the cancer makers and Diabetes patients cell destroyers) but as Food (Nutr) Supplement.
 
I recently changed over to Stevia, most of the muscular pains slowly start vanishing.
 
 
 

Pegasis
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   Posted 8/13/2005 2:08 PM (GMT -7)   

I've just been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. (8/4) I was given a glucose monitor, instructed on how to use it, told to check my blood sugar twice a day, before breakfast and dinner, and told to take a pill before breakfast and dinner also. My doctor said that he wanted me to work toward keeping my blood sugar between 70 and 125, and that if my BS was below 70, that I should not take a pill. 

I was given a strict 1500 calorie ADA diet to follow with the various exchanges listed. It's all very clear. (I've been dieting on my own and have lost 35 pounds since last November. But I'm still overweight.) I'm determined to take care of myself and be very good about this. I just turned 52 in July and I know people who have diabetes who have not taken care of themselves. I don't want that kind of neglect to damage my body.

As a matter of fact, I already printed Jeannie's letter to have on hand so I can follow her advice!

But I need some additional advice, since it's only been a little over a week, and I'm having some trouble and my doctor will be on vacation until 9/1.

My morning BS is running in the 140's. But I get low blood sugar symptoms nearly every evening right around the time I'm getting ready to fix dinner. Sometimes even after I've checked my blood sugar. But it's not in the "low blood sugar" range. It's been in the upper 80's and 90's. I get a headache, I get shakey, dizzy, and I get short of breath, I think because it all makes me so nervous. We had Gatorade in the house, so I drank that the first couple of times and it helped in about 15 or 20 minutes. Then we got some juice and that works, too. I just cross the fruit off my list for the meal :)

But because of this, I've only taken my evening pill twice. Once was when I forgot to check my BS before eating dinner, and the other time my BS was 94 but I didn't have any symptoms.

The only thing I'm doing different from the diet I was given is that I drink fat free milk so I don't use all of the fat exchanges.

Any advice will be appreciated.

~~Pegasis


great guru
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   Posted 8/13/2005 6:21 PM (GMT -7)   
I had similar problem ,I thought my BS is going dowm, but not it was 100-120 range, after some research I found taking more water reduce this symptoms. It worked well. Try but check the BS if it is 90+ try

Post Edited By Moderator (Jeannie143) : 8/13/2005 8:46:34 PM (GMT-6)


Jeannie143
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   Posted 8/13/2005 8:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Pegasis,

Sometimes when your body has become accustomed to higher blood sugar levels it treats 90 as a low blood sugar and overreacts. Try taking a small snack of about 15 or 18 peanuts and a one by one inch cube of low fat motzarella cheese mid afternoon. The peanuts are full of monounsaturated (the healthy kind) fat that is great for making you feel satisfied, the cheese and peanuts have protein which takes a while for your system to break down. A mid afternoon snack of an apple with peanut butter would be good also. The object is to try to keep sugars level and resonable. Not eating your snacks between meals can lead to drops in blood sugar and also eating too many high glycemic (quickly absorbed) carbs in a meal can cause your body to kick out too much insulin and when it's gotten that sugar into the cells the excessive insulin causes a blood sugar drop.

A piece of fruit is much better than the juice, although I understand the low blood sugar "I gotta have juice right now!" reaction... Been there myself. If it's possible for you, take your whole day's menu and stretch it out over the day... at least until you get to your doc and diet classes. If breakfast is toast and an orange and a boiled egg, eat half the orange and save some for 10:30 am. If lunch is a sandwich and salad and fruit with milk then save half the sandwich for 2:30 or 3:00 and maybe 1/2 the fruit or milk. Just remember, the object is to keep the sugar levels even, not going hungry and not over eating.

For myself I have something called the Dawn Effect which means I have a low blood sugar sometime in the night which causes my body to release glucogen from my liver to handle my body's glucose needs. (Your brain runs on pure glucose and so it demands that the levels stay where it feels comfortable, hense the shakes and cravings when your sugar is down.) This release of glucogen is fine for getting my sugar up for my brain's needs but lead to early morning sugars of 160 to 185. My physician tried to treat this by adding a small snack to my bedtime to keep the sugars level but eventually I was started on Lantus insulin and that has brought my numbers down to the healthy levels I need to maintain.

Something else I might suggest is for you to subscribe to a diabetes magazine such as Diabetes Self Management or Diabetes Forecast from the American Diabetes Assoc. Those magazines coming every other month or so are great for mini-bites of information that are more easily absorbed than trying to read a whole book at once. They help you stay current on foot care and dental care and other things that are important to diabetics. Most of them offer some great recipies, also.

Hope this helps you.
~ Jeannie

"As one goes through life one learns if you don't paddle your own canoe you don't move."
-Katherine Hepburn


"Madness takes its toll.
Please have exact change."


Jeannie143
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   Posted 8/13/2005 8:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Just thought of one more thing... I use a program on my computer called Calorie King and I bought it online for about $15.00. It has a great way of helping you count carbs, fats, proteins and fiber as well as calories and also has built in info for restaurant meals as well. You can try it for free for 2 weeks and then decide if you want to buy it. It's helped me tons!
~ Jeannie

"As one goes through life one learns if you don't paddle your own canoe you don't move."
-Katherine Hepburn


"Madness takes its toll.
Please have exact change."


Pegasis
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Total Posts : 118
   Posted 8/13/2005 9:55 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks Jeannie. I can use all the help you can give me! Your advice really makes sense.

I had some pretty extensive spinal surgery earlier this year and my husband has been doing all the grocery shopping and cooking. He's been enjoying it. As a matter of fact, he was a little hurt when I didn't eat everything he dished out for me. I told him I loved his cooking, I just had to keep losing weight! I told him to put my dinner on a salad plate, so I wouldn't get too much food. So he would sometimes give me two salad plates!

Fortunately, I had just begun preparing dinner for myself once in a while, because when I  got home from the doctor and told him that it was confirmed that I DO have diabetes he said, "Well, I don't cook diabetic and I certainly don't eat diabetic!"

He loves his southern cooking: dredge it in flour, fry it, and make gravy to pour on top of it. He also runs a vending machine business out of our home in addition to his regular job, so there is a ready supply of candy, cookies, chips and pastries in our home all the time. I can resist them. He enjoys them.

Oh. I got carried away. The idea about the magazine is great, too. There is so much to learn. I'm just trying to figure out what to put on my plate now. And I'm using big plates now. Lots of fresh veggies! I love almost all the veggies, which puts me a mile ahead of my husband and our 17 year old daughter.

Thanks again.

~~Pegasis

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