Hubby Just DX With Type 2...........Need Some Advice Please On Diet

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Howlyncat
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   Posted 4/22/2005 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   
nono My Hubby was just dx with type 2 diabetes and would appreciate some input on diet for him......I have Crohns and only weigh about 86 lbs so I dont want to fix different meals for all (daughter is Hypoglycemic) but am hoping I can make recipes that will benefit all.............If thats not pheasible(sp) I will do a different meal plan for all.......would greatly appreciate any input and thanks in advance .....you all take care and God Bless............BTW his user name is crohnsHubby
 
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/22/2005 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Lyn,
Chutz and I have been doing this for a while so we are good for advice. My best tool for following my diet is a program I downloaded from the net called CalorieKing.com It's about $15 and it helps me keep track of my fats, carbs, proteins and fiber as well as helps me stay on track with my total daily calorie and exercise thing. I'ts pretty cool. Only thing is it doesn't keep track of vitamins and minerals so he will need to take a multi vitamin /mineral supplement to cover the bases. Be sure his vitamin is low iron since men do not need extra iron and excess iron in the bloodstream has been linked to heart attacks. Something equivilant to Centrum Silver should work fine. Please get him a class with a registered dietician. You and daughter should attend as well. Your doctor can prescribe this and it should be covered by your insurance. Also, check with your local health department. They usually have diet plans and handouts for diabetics to help explain the dietary needs.

Your husband is ultimately responsible for his diet so he should be grocery shopping with you and doing his meal prep as well. Statistics have shown that people who take responsibility for their meal planning and prep are more able to adapt and cope with diabetes than people who have everything done for them. Your dietary needs are somewhat different than his. If you're having a flare you may be living on low residue foods and he needs fiber every day. He should be eating bran cereals, whole grains and oatmeal. (With my daughter's crohns that would send her into D land for a few days.) Shopping the outside walls of the store where the fresh veggies and fruits, whole grain breads and frozen veggies are is a big help. He should eat at least 2 fresh fruits a day. He will need to learn which foods send his blood glucose up (for me it's potatoes, rice and pasta) so he can eat those foods in moderation. This means testing his blood often till he gets it figured out.

One thing I have found that helps is to freeze meat portions on a cookie sheet then ziplock bag them so that I can prepare just what I need for a meal in case the rest of the fam is having spaghetti or something that isn't great for me. That way you can be eating just what you want because of a flare and he can fix a chicken breast, microwaved,made into a great sandwich with a salad and some fruit for desert. Also, some TV dinners or frozen entrees may be just the thing to have on hand once he gets a handle on his carb needs. Lots of label reading gonna be going on at your house, but it's great because once he gets this figured out he will be able to prolong his life by making great choices.

Hope this helps. There's tons more to learn, and a good diabetic magazine for him would be an idea as well. I subscribe to Diabetes Self Management and like it. Don't be suprised if he goes thru a bit of anger and depression over this diagnosis. I still get down about it once in a while but then Chutz brings me back to reality land and I try to do the same for her. This forum is a great place for him to learn. And please remember, as much as you love him, he is the one responsible for his own care so don't add his diabetes to your list of responsibilities. Let him be the man he is and you can be his helper. Just my 2 cents.
~ Jeannie

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Howlyncat
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   Posted 4/22/2005 7:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie......Thanks for all the great info......saw a nutrionist today but I found her to be quite vague............The family Doc has us all booked with a dietician and I think that will definitely be good for us all..........I totally agree that he has to take responsibility for his diabetes and I will be talking to him about that when he gets home from work .You are so right about the anger it has already set in,but I know he will get past that (he saw how I was after my dx and sometimes still am ).He is a very active man so thats in his favor and we did go shopping today and both read labels WOW i was in shock over some of the things I saw on products.As far as veggies and fruits go he is pretty good at eating both ,his biggest problem is/was junk food and the Vachon "goodies" but they have been removed from their lunches and healthier foods will replace that.The idea of freezing meat portions for him is a really good thing as I do eat alot of spagetti and potatoes ....all the stuff to try and gain,but that way I wont have to make all types of different meals , and it will be better for him all around.....The family doc we have is great and very blunt and told him that he has major life changes to make if he wants to live a longer life and that got thru to Howie and I am sure it scared him as well.........We live in Canada and ohip pays for all the supplies and the specialists(nutrionists and dieticians ect) they gave him one of the newest glucometers on the market so he is set that way as well.......I will be getting the Centrum Silver for him tomorrow morning,I really never realized that men did not need as much iron as we do or the conseqences of too much..............In all honesty I got more info from you than we did today with the nutritionist....We do eat alot of chicken and fish here so I can try different ways of doing them up ..............I know he will be on here asking Q's for himself and he knows that I have gained alot of support thru this HW family.Our daughter is really terrified at this point as she has lost her bio dad only 2 yrs ago due to complications of the diabetes,But he was a heavy drinker and really did not pay attention to the consequenses till it was too late (we were not together for 6 yrs prior to him passing but she knows what he was like and why he died) so of course she will be afraid ,but she also knows her dad(howie ) doesnt drink at all and is bent on looking after this DD and being around a long time(he is only 39 and I am 51 lol).......I relly want to thank you for all your valuable and informative input and I am glad you are blunt and to the point.I am sure I will also be on this forum (when I am not moderating the crohns/alzheimers or anxiety and panic forums lol)to get some answers as well ...............Thanks again and you take care and God Bless
 
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effie
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   Posted 4/23/2005 12:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Dear Lyn, I thought I was the only one who married a younger man. My second husband is eleven years younger than me. I tell most people the age difference is eight years. Don't know why??????
Anyway after my first husband died suddenly it took a long time to find someone who I felt would be a suitable dad. My first husband was very devoted to his son. Perhaps too much.
Anyway I decided if I did marry again I did not want to go through the widow thing twice. I do know that you have gone through many losses and I applaude your strength. I married younger. Unfortunately since we married almost five years ago now, second hubby has gained about one hundred and fifty pounds. In London England, he would walk two or three miles each way to catch the tube if he had misssed the "hop" (some kind of mini bus I think). He walked to the grocery store etc. Now he drives everywhere. He has also been amazed at how cheap Mcdonalds, Burger King, Kentucky Fried chicken is here. The only cheap junk food in England was fish and chips. He never had pizza delivered, just spicy curries. He was hypoglycemic, but I bet he is now one of the undiagnosed diabetics.
I am insulant dependent diabetic, type one. One of the best tricks my endocronologists taught me was to have a bowl of bran flakes when I wanted a snack, or low fat popcorn with only a very little bit of "Becel". I can use the sprinke on toppings as long as they are low in sugar. Salt and vinegar topping is, but ketchup one is deadly for me. I also have to watch the sour cream and onion one. I can also have 3 to 4 digestive or social tea cookies or arrowroot. I can have plain crackers, 20 grapes, 1/2 bannana, 1/2 orange, but a whole apple. I have to be really careful with anything tomato based. Tomato soup or baked brown beans will easily shoot my sugar up to 23 or 27. Plain riice cakes or white cheddar ones are okay, but do not have the caramel ones. Always keep some candy or glucose tabs next to his bed in case he gets a sudden low. Keep a drinking box handy too. however all he would usually need for a low is about 1/2 of a drinking box of orange or apple juice. Then after a low sugar bout he should have protein about 1/2 hour later to maintain a stable level. He will have to test often at the beginning to find out what foods trigger him. Is he on any drugs for this yet? Sugar free jello is good for those midnight cravings along with sugar free cool whip. There is also sugar free creamscicle popsicles and fudgecicals, sorry can not think of spelling. These things are extremely expensive, so make sure other family members do not eat his special treats. Use whole grain breads. Splenda for a replacement sugar is preferred by my endocronologist because it does not stay in the body as long. No more than 2 or 3 cans of diet soda per day. Also make sure emergency sugar glucose tabs, and or drinking boxes are in the car. If he ever is to go unconscious and can not swallow, rub honey around his gums and tongue while waiting for paramedics. Drink choices, the non alcoholic type, are limited and diabetics are frequently thirsty, and itchy and have frequent boils. When I have orange juice I have about 3 ounces and then add another 3 ounces of club soda or perrier water just to give me more fluids. Sometimes tea, coffee, or water are just not what I am in the mood for. Most diet pops have aspartaime (not sure of spelling), however you can get cream soda and an orange pop made with splenda which is supposedly better. It does not stay in the kidneys for as long and passes through the system quickly. I use to love bacon eggs and hash browns or pancakes on the weekend. No more. Bacon must be limited to one or two strips depending on how it was cured. Hash browns have a hidden sugar like all potatoes, corn and pasta. He can have as many green beans as he wants. I eat a lot of those. Peas, beets, carrots and onion have hidden sugar. You might want to get a copy of the glycemic index book. It is filled with lots of good examples of foods that fill you up without turning to sugar too quickly. Hang in there. i was so depressed when i was first diagnosed. After a couple of years I got the hang of it and could guess my blood sugar pretty accurately by how I felt. Irritability goes with high or low blood sugars and so do headaches. Thank God he was diagnosed now. The most important thing is to walk every day. Walking improves pancreatic functioning. Before the fibro I got myself a dog and worked my way up to two 3 mile walks each day. Eventually he will have to take his sugars several times a day and a fasting blood sugar for doc visits. The doc will also do another test that will tell how he has been managing his blood sugars for the past six weeks or so. Therefore he can not just be good for a couple of days before the doc visit. It takes time. It is hard to change a lifetime of dietary habits overnight. BTW, the George Foreman makes great tasting chicken quickly. It is good if you marinate it in a little lemon juice, garlic, cumin, oregano, basil, pepper and a small amount of extra virgin olive oil. Then throw some fresh green beans, broccoli in the microwave with a little water. HE CAN HAVE a small potatoe, but needs to be careful what he puts on it. Never have corn, potatoes and bread at the same meal. Have salads wih sugar free dressing, limit the tomatoes and onions and croutons. Cucumbers are usually a free food. however every food has a different reaction to each diabetic. No more sweet potatoes or tunip and carrot cassarole for me. I CAN HAVE quiche with small amounts of ham and onion. But I can have lots of broccoli in my quiche. I usually onlly have 1/2 of the pastry. There is a neat recuoe fior cheescake made on a vanilla wafer. Everything is in moderation. The more Howie walks, the more he can eatl IT WILL TAKE him awhile to get the hqng of it. Take him shopping again. Try to keep lots of variety around. Switch to one percent milk if you are not already. Good luck, hang in there , this can be hard for the whole gamily. I will keep you all in my prayers. judy formerally essentially friendless noe effie/judy.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 4/23/2005 3:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Judy great to hear from you .....how are you doing by the way?............Howie is taking this very seriously and does test his sugar on a regular basis ......it is fluctuating between 8.1- 6.8..........the last (6.8)was just after getting up and nothing to eat or drink........Howie is very active from work and constantly doing things for my family members........I am sure the stress of me being so sick has an effect on him as well.................All the "good" foods you have mentioned he does not have a problem with eating at all and we do have a George Foreman grill and will be using it more often............as I had said to Jeannie he is scared and taking this seriously............You should get your hubby to go to the hospital nutrionist as they give out glucometers FREE.......I was shocked that they never even had us sign for it !!!! Howie has put on weight as well but we are starting a strict exercise program of walking (all of us) when he is done work if he is on days or nights and this will benefit all...........as well Cait loves to play soccer or tennis with Dad so he is active ..........As for the age difference I dont find that a problem at all as I am young at heart lol ............and I too was concerned with having Cait have another man in her life but it was her decision to call him Dad and they are thick as thieves and of couse this whole thing with the diabetes has her terrified (between my illness and now him)..........I did speak with him last night after he got home as Jeannie had suggested and he is aware that this is something he needs to pay strict attention to and be totally involved in ............We are going out to shop again today (all) and take our time reading labels and showing Cait how to do the same..........Thanks for your kind words and please dont be a stranger,did you end up with yahoo yet and if so please email me your nn and I will add you to mine ok ...................Take care you and God Bless
 
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Chutz
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   Posted 4/26/2005 8:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Lyn,

You're getting lots of great advice! Isn't is amazing that sometimes when you go to 'specialist', like the nutritionist, they're no practical help at all???

Let me preface this by saying that I'm on insulin, started on pills but they didn't last, and have about 10-15 extra pounds on this old body. That said...I spent several years playing around with food plans, trying diabetic products, counting this and eliminating that, reading everything I could get my hands on, hanging out in a diabetes forum. THEN one day it just hit me...all I need to do is eat a healthy diet like everyone else should be eating. Notice I said SHOULD eat, not does eat. Stay away from stuff that spikes your sugars or is a binge food and enjoy the rest in moderate quantities.

By now most folks over on the fibro forum know that I'm a chocoholic. (Hershey's syprup is a beverage, ya know!) I stayed off for 3 years. (boy, was I grouchy!) Now, I have some chocolate every day. Not a lot but GOOD chocolate. Adding treats/sweets is harder for folks on pills than on insulin. I can take a couple of units and it's no problem. On pills it may just spike your sugars and you're high for hours or days.

This approach works for me. I'm not advocating that diabetics start chugging pies and pastries. What I am advocating is to just eat a variety of regular foods, fresh is best, and watch those portions. Best of luck to hubby. He'll do great with you by his side.

Hugs,
Chutz
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jtu91952
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   Posted 4/26/2005 12:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Lyn, it seems you've gotten alot of great advice. I have been diabetic for over fourteen yrs. At first, i didn't take it seriously and suffered the consequences. ABout three yrs ago, i became very serious(after two heart attacks) about controlling my glucose.

I started working with a very knowledgeable dietician. Discovered what true portion sizes were, what foods to choose and started an exercise program. At first i was lazy(or tired) and only exercised now and then. But when i started walking everyday 3 miles, i noticed i lost 65 pounds and my a1c dropped from 10.9 to 7.3. Yesterday, i discovered my glucose dropped to 5.5 which was due to my bp med being changed and my diet and exercise.

Like Chutz, i just learned to eat healthy rather than limit myself to certain foods. My diet is mostly high fiber low fat. I eat no less than five fruits/veggies daily. I eat only brown cereals (mostly Fiber ONe) and rice. I was told to have no more than 150g of carbs, but not is hard to do . I think a really good dietician is a "gem", my first dietician was of no help to me at all. She just preached. Wish you and your family much success in resolving health issues.

jtu91952
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   Posted 4/26/2005 12:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh yeh, my son called me this am to ask for my help. It turned out his job did a physical and he's test high on the GIT test. He scored 1000 and was scared he's diabetic.

Diabetes does run in my family and my husb.'s family. However, diabetes is no longer a death sentence. My mom has been diabetic for over 30 yrs and she's 80 yrs old.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 5/2/2005 4:51 AM (GMT -7)   
To you all .........yes I have gotten alot of great advice and so has hubby.........he was put on metformin last week (500mg od) and is really watching his food intake and eating alot of fruit and veggies.So he has seen the light and knows that this is a serious health issue that he need to look after(Jeannie lol....BTW thanks for that ).......Chutz thanks for your kind words and great advice ...he is doing really good and thats because he is reading the posts daily and watching his portions as well as eating healthy..........He too has a thing for chocolate and vachon snacks BUT I have taken most of them off our grocery list(BTW it takes forever to GS now lol as he reads ALL labels)..........but that is not a bad thing and like I said he is taking this very serious now..........and I want to thank all my HW family for their support and input........You will never know how much you all mean to me and now you are becoming his lifeline as well ...............Take Care and God Bless.....Lyn and Howie
 
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SexySweetheart
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   Posted 8/15/2005 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Well Lyn,
  I was just recently told i was a type 2 diabetic about 2 months ago..about what u can eat with this disease..I thought i couldnt eat the basic foods i love to eat either...But i found out i could as long as i only ate a certain amount..I love to eat chilli,spagehtti,rice and things like that..I just have cut them down to half portions..But also i take sugar pills to controll my augar..when i go shoppin for  food...I just look at the labels and make sure how much sugar intake is in the food itself..I hated to drink diet pop but i deal with it isnt bad at all and drink alot of water...I get tea that is unsweetned and so forth..So just watch how much you eat and cut the portions in half
 
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