Apple Cider vinegar

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Prayerful
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   Posted 8/17/2012 5:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone tried Organic Apple Cider vinegar? If so, any pro/con comments? "Supposed" to lower gluclose levels.

LanieG
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   Posted 8/18/2012 7:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I have never used this specifically to try to reduce blood sugar.  I've used apple cider vinegar on salads only, so I have no idea if it would help.  It's too acidic for me anyway.
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   Posted 8/21/2012 7:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes it works! Thanks for posting. Two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in water before bedtime reduced my fasting blood sugar the next morning from an average of 100-105 to 90-95.

Somebody needs to add this information to the threads about "Dawn Phenomenon".
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   Posted 8/28/2012 10:20 PM (GMT -6)   
 
You said you take 2 tablespoons with 8 oz water.
On the label it says to take 1 to 2 teaspoons full.
 
(I am looking at the "Bragg Organic Apple Cider Vinegar" label. Maybe you are using a different product.)
 
Isn't 2 tablespoons too strong?
Are you still taking it and is it still helping lower fasting number?

Post Edited (Prayerful) : 8/28/2012 9:24:20 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 8/29/2012 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I was using 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in a tumbler that contains over 2 full cups of water. I have no trouble drinking that much water during these hot summer months.

Some days I use less vinegar and water but still drink it every night and it really seems to lower my blood sugar.

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   Posted 9/27/2012 3:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Does drinking 2 cups of water before bed, make you go the toilet in the middle of the night? I would like to try this but don't want to have my sleep disturbed.

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   Posted 9/27/2012 7:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Don't drink it at night, Healthbug.  Drink it in the morning.
 
Are you diabetic?
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   Posted 9/28/2012 2:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, Lanie, I'm diabetic. I tried it last night and it brought my sugar level down 6.8mmol (from 4 - 8 mmol is normal) however I had to get up once in the middle of the night. So I will try to drink it in the arvo or morning as you suggest.  Thanks.
 
Healthbug.

Post Edited (Healthbug) : 9/28/2012 1:59:19 AM (GMT-6)


marieR
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   Posted 10/5/2012 12:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm not diabetic but so far it seems to usually lower mine. I am usually at 92 on my meter, on the days I took the vinegar (2 tablespoons straight before bed) I was in the low to mid 80's twice, and at 90 the third time. It's hard to say though as I am in the 80's sometimes too. It also slightly decreased my sugar spike when I took it before eating a bagel, however it made me spike 20 min later than expected- if hadn't kept testing I would have thought it was much lower than it really was- but I was about 7 points less after a bagel with the vinegar before compared to no vinegar.

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   Posted 3/7/2013 12:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Is anyone still using the (Bragg's) Apple Cider Vingar at nighttime (or during the daytime)?
If so, is it still effective?
Thanks.

Bob / PreD / 77 year old

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   Posted 10/22/2013 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Just wanted to check one more time with the following question:
 
Is anyone still using the (Bragg's) Apple Cider Vingar at nighttime (or during the daytime) to reduce fasting reading?
 
If so, is it still effective? And if so, how much do you take and when?
 
Thanks.
 
I read the folowing which reminded me of this thread I posted some time ago:
 
"Apple Cider Vinegar Before Bedtime Diabetes Study #2

In August 2007 a second trial was conducted at Arizona State University, this time to determine the effect apple cider vinegar would have on the fasting blood sugar levels of people with type 2 diabetes.

Test Procedure - Vinegar and Diabetes

11 people with type 2 diabetes, who were not taking insulin but were taking prescription oral antidiabetic medication, were given either 1 oz cheese and water (placebo group) or 1 oz cheese and 2 tablespoons of vinegar at bedtime for two days.
A cross over trial was conducted a few days later, at which time the placebo group received the vinegar and cheese, and the vinegar group received only cheese and water.

Fasting blood sugar levels were measured every morning.

Test Results - Vinegar and Diabetes

The researchers found the average fasting blood glucose levels fell by 2% with the placebo (cheese only) and by 4% with the vinegar and cheese.

On closer examination of the data they found that those participants with the highest fasting glucose levels benefited the most from the evening vinegar drink - their fasting blood glucose levels fell by 6%."

AND
 

"Drs. White and Johnston investigated the effect of 2 tbsp. apple cider vinegar with 1 oz. cheese at bedtime on fasting blood glucose in well-controlled type 2 diabetics. Subjects who consumed apple cider vinegar had 6 percent lower fasting blood glucose levels than those who consumed water. The authors proposed that vinegar may have altered the glucose synthesis and breakdown cycle in the liver, helping to control the morning blood glucose rise known as the dawn phenomenon."

Post Edited (Prayerful) : 10/22/2013 8:14:38 PM (GMT-6)


LanieG
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   Posted 10/22/2013 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't use apple cider vinegar but that's really interesting. I'd like to know how I would tolerate even two tablespoons of vinegar though.
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   Posted 10/22/2013 9:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Lanie.
I was thinking the same thing. How would I handle 2 tablespoons of ACV.
I tried 2 teaspoons and that was a bit hard to get down.
Just wanted to find out if the others who said they used it and liked it were still using it.

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   Posted 11/4/2013 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I just read about the vinegar and will be trying it in pill form. My numbers just skyrocketed when
I used 2 hydrocodone and Ambien every night for a week with readings of over 200 in the morning.
I started Aleeve instead for the pain and am going back in the sauna at night. This morn my
number was 181 and 150 before lunch. I also use an herbal pancreas support and glucose support
along with cinnamon. I had it down to 120's - 150's which for me was good before this spike. I
don't want to take meds unless I have to as with metformin it didn't make much difference with
the numbers and it kills off the B-12 in the body which is why so many get fatigued.

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   Posted 11/4/2013 9:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi and welcome, Nana Monster.  Some medications (both prescriptions and over the counter) will raise blood sugar so we really have to be careful.  Here is a website that has very valuable information about everything regarding diabetes, including a section on What is Normal Blood Sugarhttp://www.bloodsugar101.com/
 
Metformin has been an effective medication and is prescribed in different strengths.  It's really important to try to keep your blood sugar as near-normal as possible because elevated blood sugar over an extended period of time can lead to damage of several organs.
 
Good luck and thank you for posting!
Lanie

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