I think im going to switch dr

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worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/15/2016 5:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Well even though my dr said that she would put the prescription in when insurance sent the papers to her she didn't do they cancelled the strips and lancets prescription. Luckily the meter is still coming. I am beyond mad she didn't do it. Luckily I see her Wednesday and should be able to get the prescription unless she refuses then I'm going to have to go to the urgent care and see if they will do it long enough for me to find a new dr. Am I being too unreasonable or impatient or do I have a right to be mad. I don't need the strips today cause the meter won't be here until Wednesday or Friday somewhere in there but the other stuff could be already on its way if she would have listened. Its the telling me she will do it, well she said ok, but that is the same thing and not doing it is what upsets me. It would have taken 5 minutes to fill out. I'm not sure what to do.
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
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Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

couchtater
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   Posted 2/15/2016 6:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I've got the same issue with my doctor.
I'm in debate right now about changing doctors myself.
Joy
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When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/15/2016 6:58 PM (GMT -6)   
If this is the only time she's done something odd like this and if you otherwise like her and trust her knowledge and the way she's been treating you as your doctor, then you could give her another chance.

Otherwise, I would definitely change doctors. For one thing, I don't understand why it's taken so long for you to be prescribed a meter. Anyone who's having issues with blood sugar and is actually on metformin absolutely needs a meter. Yes, you can buy one at Walmart but if you have insurance, it is covered. You've already confirmed that it's covered.

You're not being unreasonable. It's your health and your right.
Lanie

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worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/15/2016 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I just feel like I'm not important. I asked question about the dosage they prescribed for me and she would not answer the question for me so I'm done. I am now worried that she will refuse to give me the prescription I need
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/15/2016 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Be calm and collected and not angry when you go in to see her. Ask her for that prescription to be sent. Doctors' offices now do these things electronically. Try not to be confrontational when asking.

In the meantime, check out other doctors from your insurance lists (if they have lists) and try to pick one that you feel will 'fit' with you.
Lanie

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MusicForLife
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   Posted 2/16/2016 6:58 AM (GMT -6)   
What is with doctors being so weird about stuff like this? I almost wish someone could do some secret study about regular MDs, follow them around and either explain how busy they are so we understand it from their perspective or expose some for their laziness or ineptitude. Someone, go and do this documentary, haha.

worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/16/2016 9:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I think that will be hard to do but I am going to. It is crazy that she won't help me out before the appointment. I'm afraid that she will refuse the prescription or try to give me a different brand instead of what I want. I did a lot of research so I know what I want. If I don't like it in a year I can change it. I'm not asking for much you know and her lying to me is ridiculous
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/16/2016 9:30 AM (GMT -6)   
She has to go with what the insurance company will cover and if the insurance will cover that particular meter, say that to her. You spoke to the insurance people and that's what they told you. Period.

Don't say anything that's really on your mind at this point. If you do change doctors, make sure you get copies of your medical records from her office, all the test results. If you have access to them electronically, of course that's better. In the old days, you had to get the office to hand them over or have them make copies but if her office uses the software with patient portals, then you don't need to deal with that. However - if you can log on and access them yourself, then download them and make hard copies. If you no longer are her patient or are in her medical group, then you might not have access to them after you change doctors.

Don't let this upset you and ruin your day or your mind. Find a better doctor and you'll feel better, too.

yeah
Lanie

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worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/16/2016 5:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm confused. I stopped into the local urgent care to ask if my dr wont give me a prescription for my strips if they will help they said yes and asked my a1c and when I told them 7.3 they said I only need to test once a day and heck I could test two or three times a week and be ok. I thought we are supposed to test after breakfast lunch dinner and waking up. I don't feel comfortable testing a few times a week that is why I went down to begin with. they even said a 180 bg is not high at all. *** I thought it should be under 140. I don't know what to believe. ill ask my dr in the morning if I have any trust in her left.
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/16/2016 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't follow the ADA recommendations at all because they are far too high. This is from www.diabetes.org: T"he American Diabetes Association suggests the following targets for most nonpregnant adults with diabetes. More or less stringent glycemic goals may be appropriate for each individual.

A1C: 7%
A1C may also be reported as eAG: 154 mg/dl
Before a meal (preprandial plasma glucose): 80–130 mg/dl
1-2 hours after beginning of the meal (Postprandial plasma glucose)*: Less than 180 mg/dl
- See more at: http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/treatment-and-care/blood-glucose-control/checking-your-blood-glucose.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/#sthash.9X3ayD9F.dpuf


If someone there told you 180 "is not high at all", that person doesn't understand blood sugar and after ten years, I have found that true among many health-care professionals. They read this and quote it but they don't have any idea what blood sugar like that can do to people.

You have the resources that I've posted, so you do know what it should be. The bottom line is what your blood sugar is and it should be as close to normal as possible. Doctors only know what they read from the ADA and the ADA's recommendations are very high.

While I was learning about how food affected my blood sugar, I tested several times a day. I don't do that now because I know what food has carbs. Just two days ago, my nephew and I were talking about food and I said I didn't eat rice. He said he thought rice was a 'good carb'. Well, he doesn't have any issues with blood sugar or diabetes and he doesn't live with this everyday as I do.

As I related in another post somewhere here, a dietitian gave me a program in which I should eat "6 starch exchanges" a day. Fruit was included as "fruit" so an orange and a banana were not starches. The day consisted of three pieces of bread, a potato, three cookies (Those were the starches), an orange, a banana, 1 1/4 cup of strawberries and some chicken, lettuce, tomato, broccoli, fat-free milk, roast beef. I did follow a couple of days of her plan and my blood sugar sky-rocketed.
Lanie

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worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/16/2016 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
So testing at wake and 2 hours after a meal is how it should be tested
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/16/2016 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, a fasting test is what doctors are looking at. Also, you should test right before you eat and then about two hours later ("postprandial" is after eating). That will tell you how you're metabolizing the food you ate and if you should make any changes.

So, if you start out at 100, then eat and then test at 110 about two hours later, that tells you that you're metabolizing the food pretty well. Whereas if you tested out at 160 two hours later, you would know that you should look at what you ate and figure out what made your blood sugar spike.
Lanie

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worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/17/2016 6:51 AM (GMT -6)   
They say my insurance will only cover 1 strip a day
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/17/2016 7:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Ok, then you can test fasting for a few days a week. Then, you can skip a day or two and test before and after meals on other days.
Lanie

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very low carb way of eating

worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/17/2016 7:13 AM (GMT -6)   
I called my insurance and they said that is not true they will cover the 400 strips and lancets
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/17/2016 8:33 AM (GMT -6)   
So I got them to give me a prescription for 3 times a day so I guess that works. I can test morning after lunch and after dinner with my new meter and my old meter for after breakfast if need it
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/17/2016 8:44 AM (GMT -6)   
! Why are you getting such conflicting information? They have you on a roller coaster!

In any case, the reason for testing is mainly to see how you're metabolizing the food you're eating, but as I wrote, in order to understand it more clearly, you have to test right before you eat and then about two hours afterward. Do that for any and all meals so you know what food you do better with and which food you don't.

When I first started testing, I tested all day long nearly every day and used up a lot of strips. My doctor had written the prescription for enough strips to test five times a day. I had that for about a year and then went down to two a day. At that point, I didn't test everyday because I finally understood about food.
Lanie

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very low carb way of eating

worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/17/2016 9:13 AM (GMT -6)   
That's they way I feel. I'm going to keep strips for my old meter if I need to test more like if I'm eating something new. I feel like I'll never understand this disease and no one seems to be able to get me the correct answers. I'm going to call my insurance and see if I can get a nurse that handles diabetes to talk with me. My insurance company has them. Even the assistant to the doctor agreed with me. I was almost in tears. This disease is hard enough but not to have the right answer is worse. They didn't seem to care that the metformin makes me have the diahrrea and did not even consider another alternative. Had me so upset I forgot to ask for a referral to an endo. I think they are upset because I went to long without going back but I got busy. And she didn't make me feel like she cared the last time. Im getting another doctor and that scares me to as I am afraid of change but I can't do this anymore
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/17/2016 9:45 AM (GMT -6)   
You are doing fine and do not let this upset you! The reason I think you're going to get control over this is that you are concerned about your blood sugar and you are looking for ways to control it.

This is from the website I had told you about before. Be sure to read through all the different headings. This is a page about blood sugar goals: www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045621.php.

Just keep in mind that the more carbs you eat or drink, the higher the blood sugar will be. It's honestly that simple.

Eating out can be a challenge. Bread, croutons, breading and sauces/dressings all contribute to higher blood sugar in an otherwise healthy meal. I frequently eat salad at McAlister's Deli but I order it without the croutons and do not take the crackers. Dressings and of course gravy and sauces are notorious for hidden sugar. Honey is as bad.

And remember that if you start the day high, the blood sugar will be that much higher later when you're eating. If you start out fasting with 95, you'll have more control with breakfast and so on, but if your fasting is 125, then where will it go from there? There's not too much leeway.

Increasing the metformin dosage may give you those unpleasant side effects but they should subside but it's different how it affects different people, of course. Just stay away from heavy carbs and greasy food to lessen those effects.

GP's have general knowledge about diabetes and blood sugar and follow what they're been taught and think that if they give you the ADA guidelines, you'll be fine. But as I've written (too many times), those parameters are very high. I am my own health advocate and am keeping my blood sugar as near normal as I can with diet and now metformin. I found myself explaining what I've learned to my two GPs.

Life will take your attention in different ways. Sometimes it's work, family, house, car, kids or health and sometimes they all grab you at the same time, so it's easy to lose track of what you're eating. Do not get discouraged. You will finish this week fine. Look for another doctor but just know that sometimes GPs will give you the same information they have learned from their training. If you think an endo would be better, then go for that if you can.
Lanie

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Post Edited (LanieG) : 2/17/2016 8:55:47 AM (GMT-7)


worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/17/2016 11:53 AM (GMT -6)   
My new meter is here yay
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/17/2016 1:22 PM (GMT -6)   
But the doctor sent the wrong prescription over
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/17/2016 2:08 PM (GMT -6)   
But the doctor sent the wrong prescription over
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner

Lanie G
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   Posted 2/17/2016 2:46 PM (GMT -6)   
She's put you on a roller coaster and won't let you get off! Help!!
Lanie

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metformin
very low carb way of eating

couchtater
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   Posted 2/17/2016 6:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Run, don't walk, away from her.

I know it's a pain in the butt to change doctors, but it sounds like you have a bad doctor.
Joy
Lupus, RA, Fibromyalgia, Glaucoma, Asthma, Hypothyriodism, Sleep Apnea, Depression, Allergies, diabetes, and benign familia tremors

When life throws you lemons....
Pick them up and throw them right back at them! :))

worriedgirl
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   Posted 2/18/2016 5:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Well after 5 emails and 5 calls she still insists that she gave me the prescription for the mail order and 5 times I explained that yes but I don't want to do mail order and I want it to go to my local target pharmacy and still nothing. She even told her assistant to call to see my concern. I told her plain as day my problem. Apparently me checking my sugars are not important at all. I'm not going back to her at all. I tried to get to a endo but they all want referrals which she won't do either. I'm literally in tears over this.
"No one really dies because they have loved. Because they love they stay in the hearts of the people they have touched so in that their memory lives on." Ghost whisperer-i know corny but this touched me deep down and i see so much truth in it.
ADD-diagnosed 2010
Diabetes- diagnosed 3-29-2012. only using low fat and low carb diet and metformin 1500 mg a day. half at lunch and half at dinner
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