High protein diets stimulate the release of glucose?

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Claire-Bear
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   Posted 11/9/2005 7:08 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't know whether we are allowed to put links in?  (Sorry if we're not!)  But I thought this was interesting:
 
 
It basically says that high protein diets activate the release of glucose in the small intestine of rats, and further studies are to be carried out on humans.  I wonder how this would affect diabetes?

Jeannie143
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   Posted 11/9/2005 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Claire,
Links are fine as long as they aren't selling anything :-)
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sandbranch
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   Posted 12/2/2005 9:00 AM (GMT -7)   
i can eat some carbs like oranges apples, strawberries and high fiber without too much trouble but corn products makes me go up----------
I think low carb diets are find but i do well on fruits veg and low fat meats with once in a while some mult grain bread, about 1/2 slice It is a battle but we have to win it or suffer the results. I would love to forget i have diabetes and just eat, but i am thankful that i can get help with medication.

steven k
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   Posted 12/4/2005 10:15 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry I have to disagree with you and this website. I check my blood 3 times a day. I only eat protein during the day and my glucose readings are always in a very good area90-110 At night when I eat carbohydrates my blood sugar goes sky high. I have to believe my own eyes from what I see from my glucose meter. I don't think you'll find many diabetic people who will agree with you about protein driving glucose up To be honest I think it is absurd to say that protein drives glucose levels up. Maybe a little but nothing like carbohydrates. Carbohydrates drive my sugar sky high. I can eat lots and lots of protein with very litte blood sugar elevation. It's amazing every day there is another theory about this disease Absolutley Incrediable!

Warren
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   Posted 12/5/2005 8:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Steven,
 
Welcome to the forum!!
 
I don't think Claire was advocating giving up a high protein intake as much as she was asking what this study could mean for diabetics.
 
I went back and re-read the link to the UK article she has shown us and it was very interesting.  The article was saying that the specific action of protein releasing glucose in the small intestine creates "neuropeptides" or hormonal transmitters that tell the brain "HEY DUDE, STOP EATING".  What made these findings significant was that carbs apparantly don't do this.
 
Now we all know from looking at the GI index, that most all foods get converted to sugar, its just a matter of how quickly they convert in our body as to how badly they will spike or affect our BS.  White breads, rice, etc. actually are worse that plain ole sugar.  Most high proteins are way down on the list.  Lets remember the whole point of this article was summed up in the title, High protein diets curb hunger.  They were not advocating that these diets release dangerous amounts of glucose for diabetics, in fact they point out that Carbs also release glucose in the small intestine but don't seem to have the "hunger curbing" hormone release that proteins do.  Claire's question was a good one, "what does all this mean for diabetics"?
 
Im not sure that the article tries to address this but Im going to take a guess.  Since the release of the Neuropeptides shuts down our hunger mechanism and we eat less, AND what we've eaten is way way down on the GI index, our BS stays low.  THE EXACT OPPOSITE is true for carbs, according to the study.
 
Soooooo your experience as well as my own tends to be right on the money, simple carbs will always push our BS up.
 
scool  Warren

Jeannie143
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   Posted 12/5/2005 10:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok, Warren.. are you really a rocket scientist on the side? (Only kidding!)
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desertdiabetic
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   Posted 12/9/2005 9:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree that protein does not drive bg up. If that were true I would very high bg's. I have heard it said that many things will increase your bg numbers that have no sugar in them. Your body reacts to what you put in you stomach and it does not always have to be carbs. The body is so darned complex in how it reacts to what we stuff down our throats. If you fill your stomach with completely "safe" food your bg will increase.

SnowyLynne
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   Posted Yesterday 4:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Starchy foods will bring up your bg.


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devine007
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   Posted Yesterday 5:27 PM (GMT -7)   
You have to be very careful with all protein diets such as atkins when you are a diabetic. Eating just protein can lead to burning ketones and ketoacidosis (sp?). You can be burning ketones and still have level blood sugar readings, so if you are going to follow a diet like atkins make sure you check your ketones too!

devine007
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   Posted Yesterday 5:31 PM (GMT -7)   
there is a good article here:

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2002/B/20026767.html

It talks about ketoacidosis and not enough carbs.
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