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Zbaby
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   Posted 11/26/2016 10:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I am type 2. Just newly diagnosed. My doctor put me on Metformin 1000mg BID and Victoza. 3 months later he added Jardiance. I now have, high blood pressure so he also added Quinapril 40mg QD. I have been dizzy and have been winded. I have Palpitations as well. I have talked to a friend who is a type 1 diabetic and he has stated that he feels very strongly about the good effects Victoza has for lowering your A1C. Does anyone else take Victoza and have these same side effects? If so how long do they last? Im very tired of feeling dizzy. sad

Lanie G
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   Posted 11/27/2016 8:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to HealingWell, Zbaby. I'm sorry about those symptoms. You need to ask your doctor about these symptoms. Have you talked to him? He needs to know about the dizziness.

I'm not a doctor but I'm surprised you were put on three diabetes medications so soon without trying to see how the metformin worked with a change of diet. The food we eat has a direct influence on our blood sugar. If you are eating a lot of carbs like bread and other products made with flour, potatoes, rice and so on, your blood sugar will be very high. Normally, when you're newly diagnosed, you would cut down on these heavy carbs, eat more vegetables along with some protein, greens, etc., get some regular exercise and start the metformin.

What has your blood sugar readings been? In the morning when waking, before meals, after meals?

The quinapril is a good medication for high BP which also helps protect the kidneys. Both high blood pressure and diabetes can damage the kidneys. Maybe your dosage is too high. Do you know what your BP readings were before and what they are now?

Both high and low blood sugar and low blood pressure can cause dizziness so it's hard to say which medication (or the combination of all of them especially in such a short time) is causing the dizziness.

So, if I were you, I would call the prescribing doctor as soon as you can and tell him what's going on. Today, I would keep a record of your blood sugar and your blood pressure readings to show him. Also, with your blood sugar readings, write down what you're eating and doing.

Here is a site which has a lot of information about blood sugar: www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

Can you write what food you eat for meals? I can help you with that in the meantime. I'm glad you found our forum!
Lanie
"The Happy Bunny"

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eat2bwell
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   Posted 11/27/2016 10:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Combining so many medications could have side effects. These medications could interact with each other. If you weren't tired and dizzy before the medications could be the side effect of the combined medications. Are you taking other medications for other problems. Ask your doctor about this and if your condition doesn't improve consider seeing another doctor. Feeling tired and dizzy all the time is not normal.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/31/med.nation.too.many.meds/

Zbaby
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   Posted 11/29/2016 10:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I have talked to my doctor. He truly believes in Victoza and wantse to continue. He added the Jardiance because my numbers weren't dropping as low as we wanted with the other medicines. I was just hoping someone out there had the same side effects and could tell me how long they last. I don't think I can take this much longer. Looking for the light at the end of this dizzy tunnel

Lanie G
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   Posted 11/29/2016 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Zbaby, what have your blood sugar readings been? And what have you been eating? These questions are important to see what's causing the problems.

And what has your blood pressure been since taking that medication?

Without knowing the answers to these questions, it's really hard to find the cause(s). And it's hard to suggest what to do. Maybe it's the blood sugar and maybe it's the blood pressure. Thanks.
Lanie
"The Happy Bunny"

diabetes moderator
diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating

Post Edited (LanieG) : 11/29/2016 9:14:01 AM (GMT-7)


Lanie G
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   Posted 11/29/2016 7:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Zbaby, are you still with us? I hope you keep posting.
Lanie
"The Happy Bunny"

diabetes moderator
diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating

Zbaby
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   Posted 11/29/2016 11:19 PM (GMT -6)   
When I was just on the Victoza and metformin, my blood sugar never went below 200. Then he put me on Farxiga. But my blood pressure went up. My doctor says it has to be some other reason then my medicaine. Because farxiga causes low BP. But I know in my mind I would think otherwise and asked to be out on something else. That's when I started Jardiance. Now my BP is fine. My blood sugars are good. They haven't gone above 180. But now my pulse is high. My resting pulse is at 95. I took myself off the Victoza and have not been dizzy since. It is only 2 days but I feel better. But anytime I try to exert myself my pulse goes up to 120. I don't know what to do

Zbaby
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   Posted 11/29/2016 11:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Metformin has kept me nauseous so I don't eat that much. A boost for breakfast half a sandwich for lunch and it differs with dinner. My snacks are cottage cheese, yogurt, and fruits

Lanie G
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   Posted 11/30/2016 7:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for posting more. What is the dosage of metformin that you're on? Has the doctor given you guidance about what to eat? From what you wrote, the food you're eating causes your blood sugar to rise too high. Please read the website I posted at the beginning. Bread and any food made with flour will give you high blood sugar. Which Boost are you drinking? How many carbs does the can say are in it?

This is only my opinion and as I said I'm not a doctor but I think from the beginning you haven't been given the best guidance for your blood sugar. First, you should have been told to cut way down on bread and food made from flour, potatoes and rice. You should be eating a piece of protein and some vegetables and leafy greens, some nuts, unsweetened yogurt, not too much fruit, some cheese.

You should be keeping a log of your blood sugar when you get up in the morning and what it is a couple of hours after breakfast. At that point, you and the doctor would know what medication you would need. Metformin will cause nausea if you eat a lot of carbs and fried food or if you take it on an empty stomach. Normally you would start out on a lower dosage until you get used to it.

Also, you should have been told to get some regular daily exercise in like walking or other exercise if you're able.

Then - your blood sugar should be examined for adjustment in medication. I think it's odd that you were immediately put on the three without waiting a time to see how they were working.

Do you have other family members with diabetes?
Lanie
"The Happy Bunny"

diabetes moderator
diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating

Zbaby
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   Posted 11/30/2016 11:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Back story: I had gestational diabetes. 8 months after my daughter was born, I was diagnosed with type 2. I was dumb and thought it would take a lot longer to get type 2. So I indulged in carbs since during my whole pregnancy I was limited. I do exercise I ride my bike for 2min a day and my work requires me to walk the whole 8 hours. and I started only on metformin 500mg bid. Now I'm on 1000mg bid. I eat double fiber bread. And I'm drinking glucose control boost. It has 16g of protein and 16carbs. I will take a look at the Web site you posted.

Lanie G
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   Posted 11/30/2016 11:31 AM (GMT -6)   
I have read that gestational diabetes will frequently be a forerunner to regular type 2. I didn't have this (I have two kids) but diabetes is on my mom's side and my brother, sister and I all have diabetes, so we really inherited the trait unfortunately. Another unfortunate thing is that many doctors (including my own) don't know too much about blood sugar. Even the nutritionist I was sent to gave me a 'diet' supposedly diabetic friendly which kept my blood sugar in the high 100's, nearly to 200, which I had never had before when I was following my usual low-carb diet. So, I thought this is stupid and I went back to my own diet plan.

Low-carb doesn't mean high fat or high protein, which many people might think. People like you and me (and all diabetics and pre-diabetics and anyone with high blood sugar problems like insulin resistance) cannot metabolize carbs from any source because a carb is a carb whether it's from fruit or vegetables or rice or flour (bread, pasta, cookies, crackers, cake, etc.). It's just the way our body is. Eating all that will keep our blood sugar very very high and over time, high blood sugar can cause heart and kidney problems, blindness, circulation problems that lead to neuropathy especially in the feet. This is why we really do need to control our blood sugar.

A decent piece of protein (meat, poultry, fish), lots of vegetables and leafy greens, and some eggs, dairy, nuts and seeds and small portions of fruit make a good eating plan. Dr. Richard Bernstein wrote Diabetes Solution which has the best explanations of blood sugar, diabetes, medications and food that I've read. He also includes some recipes at the back. He himself is a type 1.

In any case, if I were you I would probably look for another doctor, someone who does not rush you onto medications without first changing food plans and keeping a food/blood sugar journal. Keeping a log of your blood sugar when you get up and before and after meals is the only way you'll find out how your blood sugar is after the food you eat.

I'm glad you found HealingWell!
Lanie
"The Happy Bunny"

diabetes moderator
diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating

Post Edited (LanieG) : 11/30/2016 10:43:17 AM (GMT-7)


Zbaby
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   Posted 11/30/2016 11:39 AM (GMT -6)   
That's what my doctor did when I had gestational diabetes. My doctor now has type 1. So I am thinking he knows what he is doing. But, I have had to call him multiple times since seeing him in between appointments because I just don't feel good. Maybe I might go back to the first doctor. But she was really expensive. And the dietitian she had me see was trying to squeeze as much money our of me as possible. The area I live in has very few Endocrinologist. :-(

Lanie G
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   Posted 11/30/2016 11:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm sure you don't feel good and I think it's from too many meds too soon. And I'm wondering about the onset of high blood pressure.

I'm not sure which doctor you should see (the old one or the present one) or just find another one completely new. An endo might be a good idea if you can't get your blood sugar on track - but I think you can if you re-evaluate your food plan.
Lanie
"The Happy Bunny"

diabetes moderator
diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating

Zbaby
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   Posted 11/30/2016 12:15 PM (GMT -6)   
My current doctor is an endocrinologist.

Lanie G
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   Posted 11/30/2016 2:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow! And he's the one who put you on all three fairly rapidly!? Hmmm. I would go back to your regular doctor if you can.
Lanie
"The Happy Bunny"

diabetes moderator
diabetes type 2 controlled by diet and exercise and
metformin
very low carb way of eating
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