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FK
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   Posted 4/11/2006 7:13 AM (GMT -7)   
I just purchased the product and it is still in the original containers.  
 
I have been using an XL GLIDER exericse machine and it has significantly reduced the glucose reading to under 150.
 
I plan to keep it going for several more weeks before I go back to see my doctor.
 
I think it was a small investment at this time and hopefully I will get some feedbacks from DIABETICINE users so I can make a clear decision on taking the product.
 
Not looking for arguments about the product just responses which can be negative as well as positive.  Since I am the one who has to ultimately make the decision on using it, I will evaluate the responses, with thanks.
 
 

Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/11/2006 10:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Your exercise is absolutely the best thing you can be doing. I hope you are co-ordinating it with a balanced food plan. Did your doctor prescribe any medications when you last saw him? What was your original fasting Blood Sugar? Did your doctor give you a blood sugar number to aim at?

Diabeticine is a mixture of many herbal remedies that do have some blood sugar lower abilities, the major one which is cinnamon. None of these herbs have definative studies behind them for toxicity, prolonged use, contraindications and drug crossover reactions. Also, the herbs effectiveness can be altered by growing conditions, drought and/or rainfall, contaminated by collection process and have a host of other problems. For myself I'm all about using cinnamon on my toast and french toast to help lower my post-breakfast peaks but I take my glucophage, advandia and Lantus to keep my sugars between 89 and 130. Those are numbers I can live with.

After much intense study and responsible thought I have chosen to work with traditional medications. I have a background in nursing, anatomy, physiology, bacteriolgy and chemistry. I have my own eyesight, limbs and heart to consider in this battle with my blood sugar and I prefer to use the heavy artillery to keep the enemy at bay. You may decide otherwise but having sugars under 150 is only a start for you and medications may be the only way to achieve this goal. Hope this helps.
~ Jeannie

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."

- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


FK
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   Posted 4/11/2006 11:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Nurse Jeannie:
 
Your exercise is absolutely the best thing you can be doing. I hope you are co-ordinating it with a balanced food plan. Did your doctor prescribe any medications when you last saw him? What was your original fasting Blood Sugar? Did your doctor give you a blood sugar number to aim at?
 
 
REPLY:  I take glucophage, (2000 mg),  micronase (20).   My doctor wanted to put me on insulin but my spouse had other ideas.
The XL Glider machine has made me think differently about the insulin factor.

Diabeticine is a mixture of many herbal remedies that do have some blood sugar lower abilities, the major one which is cinnamon. None of these herbs have definative studies behind them for toxicity, prolonged use, contraindications and drug crossover reactions. Also, the herbs effectiveness can be altered by growing conditions, drought and/or rainfall, contaminated by collection process and have a host of other problems. For myself I'm all about using cinnamon on my toast and french toast to help lower my post-breakfast peaks but I take my glucophage, advandia and Lantus to keep my sugars between 89 and 130. Those are numbers I can live with.
 
REPLY:  My spouse bought a few books, one which spoke about the positive effects of cinnamon..
 

After much intense study and responsible thought I have chosen to work with traditional medications. I have a background in nursing, anatomy, physiology, bacteriolgy and chemistry. I have my own eyesight, limbs and heart to consider in this battle with my blood sugar and I prefer to use the heavy artillery to keep the enemy at bay. You may decide otherwise but having sugars under 150 is only a start for you and medications may be the only way to achieve this goal. Hope this helps
 
REPLY:  Definitely helps and I think I will hold off on the DIABETICINE for a few weeks and see if I can do this with the standard medication I have prescribed.
 
 
BTW, just took an after lunch reading  of 136.
 
As I said in my note, WITH MANY THANKS to you.
 
Frank
 

Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/12/2006 11:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Frank,

I don't want to step on anyone's toes here, but I wonder why your spouse (and not you) is making the decisions about your diabetic control. If, perchance, she has bought the wrong book and is mistaken about the insulin, she is not the one who will suffer the long term effects of prolonged elevated sugars.

I would honestly ask you to do some of your own research on insulin to make an informed decision. I also strongly advise you to get a second opinion or to see an endocrinologist about your insulin/sugar needs. When all is said and done I generally put my money on the person with all the diplomas on the wall. Just my 2¢ so please don't take offense.
~ Jeannie

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."

- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


FK
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   Posted 4/12/2006 3:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Nurse Jeannie:
 
Certainly no offense taken...
 
She went through a lot with her mother and had a strong opinion about it
 
It has turned out that my exercise program just netted a reading of 106, with 5 under 150 in recent readings.
 
I will keep the exercise going till my next doctor visit.
 
Many thanks again.
 
Frank

FK
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   Posted 4/16/2006 5:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Happy Easter Nurse Jeannie

syndes2
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   Posted 5/27/2006 7:23 PM (GMT -7)   
I think it was a small investment at this time and hopefully I will get some feedbacks from DIABETICINE users so I can make a clear decision on taking the product.
 
Not looking for arguments about the product just responses which can be negative as well as positive.  Since I am the one who has to ultimately make the decision on using it, I will evaluate the responses, with thanks.
 
Dear FK-
I'm new to the Forum and will give you a more positive spin on Diabeticine.  Eight years ago I was diagnosed with Rhuematoid Arthritis, for which I take approximately seven different drugs daily. So far, in spite of having to give up my entire life, they've kept me vertical, if somewhat unsteady. Three years ago I was diagnosed with steroid (one of the RA drugs) induced Hypertension with added another four drugs to the daily regime. And in February 2006, I was diagnosed with steroid induced Diabetes. I thought life had officially ended and I'd just been notified.  skull
 
After a really good crying jag and a pretty extensive "pity party" I turned on the computer to start doing some research. I wasn't looking for a miracle but I was looking for ideas that didn't include adding more pharmaceuticals to the ever growing list.
 
Eventually I found the Diabeticine. Like almost everyone who's posted here, I was sceptical as well. The old saying of "If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is" comes to mind, but having read their disclaimer, I figured what do I have to lose? If it doesn't work or doesn't agree with me, it has a money back guarantee. So I ordered it.
 
When I received it, I spent several days looking up absolutely every ingredent on the bottle. Each and every one of them specifically states that it's used for, or suspected of having the properties for reducing blood sugar and/or hypertension. So I started taking it as instructed on the bottle.
 
My numbers in February were a blood glucose average of 256 and an A1C of 10.5 and yes, I was, and still am extremely overweight. (another gift of the steroids)
 
Today my blood sugar readings are averaging around 130 which the doctor says are still waaay to high, which may be so. But down from 256, and still going down, I'm not unhappy with them. Plus, even without being able to "exercise", I've still managed to lose 45 pounds in three months. I've also just had an A1C reading done and while I don't know what the actual number is yet (with the holiday weekend), the Doctor's message on my voice mail yesterday was, and I quote, "Your A1C is wonderful. It seems the Diabeticine really worked."
 
All without any of the pharmaceuticals the doctors originally were trying to push on me.
 
And I'll just add this as well...  I'm feeling better than I have in quite a long time and I'll give some of the credit to the Diabeticine. Maybe it's not specifically responsible, but the results from taking it are benefiting me in other ways.
 
Boy!  Am I long-winded or what?    tongue    

In the game of life,
only one of two things will ever happen.


Jeannie143
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   Posted 5/28/2006 7:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Snydes,
I'm not here to argue either... but you need to know something. Diabeticine is a pharmaceutical, just not a FDA approved one. All of the ingredients in it have side effects, just like prescribed meds... and to me it makes no sense to pay all that money for something that only works half way. I suspect that your weight loss program and better eating has more to do with your numbers than the herbal remedy you're using. There are lots of things you can do to improve your blood sugars including carb counting, exercise, medication, lowering stress levels, weight loss, herbals, increased fiber and a bunch of other things that I forgot... Some of them work very well and some not so well but the ultimate goal is low numbers NOW! Not working toward, not getting lower- but low now! because numbers over 150 more than two hours after a meal are causing permanent damage to your kidneys, eyes, fingers and toes... Damage that can't be undone... That's why I use the prescribed medical approach. I value my eyesight and prefer to keep my feet.

I sometimes feel that if an unscrupulous person was secretly selling metformin under the fake name DiabeteStop we'd have people shouting "Magic Pill" from the housetops! What is so alluring about a 'secret formula' that means less meds? It's still a medicine... just not a prescribed one! Sorry... but I feel that you are being taken advantage of and in the long run you will be unable to fix the damage that your choices may invoke. Just my 2¢... (Jeannie gets down off of her soap box and leaves.)
~ Jeannie

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."

- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


Warren
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   Posted 5/29/2006 7:21 AM (GMT -7)   

Picks up the soapbox Jeanie left behind and follows her out!

scool Warren
It's not that some people have willpower and some don't. It's that some people are ready to change and others are not. - James Gordon, M.D.
What some call health, if purchased by perpetual anxiety about diet, isn't much better than tedious disease. - George Dennison Prentice

I can only please one person per day, today is not your day...tomorrow doesn't look good either.


Barbra74
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   Posted 5/31/2006 8:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Look people, there is a cure for type 2 diabetes and it's all natural. It's called diet and excercise! Doctors have been prescribing this "holistic healing" for years. So, that tells me that a natural cure is possible. Diamalox (Diabeticine) may work and it may not, but we won't know if we don't try it. Buy it and take it to your Doctor, you know what he'll say? I don't know whats in it so I don't know if it will work. He can't endorse it because his philosophy is "western". Herbs, natural supplements can and do work on people. What do you have to lose? They're not telling you to stop taking your prescribed medicines. Let me know what your results are and I'll let you know what mine are.

Warren
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   Posted 6/1/2006 6:03 AM (GMT -7)   

I guess I have to repeat this for newbies every so often.  Type 2 diabetes is NOT as simplistic as you make it out to be. When I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes I was at 5.8% body fat and doing 250 situps a day with 50 lbs. of weight on my chest.  My BP was 100 over 60 and my resting pulse rate was in the low 60's.  Hardy fits the profile you are describing does it! 

I have a major problem with diabeticine as its primary component, or the one that is in the greatest concentration is "chromium".  Chromium doesn't flush from the body like most vitamins, but stores there for the long term, so the doses you get are additive!  Chromium is toxic. It will make your hair fall out, give you cancer, cause liver failure, etc. etc. etc.

Why in the world would you take anything that had significant amounts of Chromium in it?  The FDA has indicted the makers of Diabeticine for false advertising and I think that if you want to try herbs, etc as a supplement to whatever else you are doing to try and control your diabetes, you are better off simply doing some research and going to the health food store than you are buying this garbage at a really exhoribtant price!

scool Warren
It's not that some people have willpower and some don't. It's that some people are ready to change and others are not. - James Gordon, M.D.
What some call health, if purchased by perpetual anxiety about diet, isn't much better than tedious disease. - George Dennison Prentice

I can only please one person per day, today is not your day...tomorrow doesn't look good either.


Jeannie143
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   Posted 6/1/2006 8:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Amen!
~ Jeannie

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."

- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


jtu91952
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   Posted 6/2/2006 5:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Chromium is not all that bad, it is only bad if a person take too much. I learned this in my Biology/Basic Nutrition class. our soil is nearly depleted of chomium so a person gets very little from food. Chromuim is known to lower blood glucose, so is cinnamon. It has been all over the news reports.

I get my chromium from my multi-vitamin, which has 150 mg, it is the Wal-Mart brand similar to Centrum Silver.

I think the originally poster said "no agruments". Not everybody is afraid to try new things to help with the disease.

hildafromcanada
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   Posted 6/4/2006 3:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I am afraid to take new things without trial. How come not one person who is "cured" has wrote to the newspapers, this would make headlines. Just sceptical. If I were a company who finds a potential "cure" for diabetes, I would patent my idea. Unfortunately these herbal medications are not patented in the US patent office.(http://www.uspto.gov/)
I am not against herbal medication but it should be studied on people just like medications since they are powerful medications ie;foxglove=digoxin powerful heart medication, but also very deadly even in very small amounts.
My daughter was diagnosed 3 years ago with IDDM, and naturally I am looking into ALL possibilities yet some of these advertisements insults my inteligence. As I have pointed out above how come nobody came forward (with proof) who is "cured"?
For type 2 diabetes I am all for weight reduction, diet herbal supplement that helps insulin sensitivity, but for type 1 I am vary to try this since ( I do believe that some of the ingredient "lower blood glucose" by binding to glucose) my daughter's "synthetic" insulin can make no distinction on sugar level. Even if the available sugar is less it will bind to something and that can cause life threatening lows. Also, my daughter can NOT afford to loose any weight what these products are advertising to do. If there is a person out there who has been " cured" by these medications please make yourself available so we can learn.
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