Success treating Type II with suppliments?

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planoguy
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Date Joined May 2006
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   Posted 5/5/2006 1:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
 
I am new here. I have Type II (for several years) and high cholesterol. I take glucophage and Avandia for blood sugar control and Lipitor and Tricor for lipid control.
 
I have heard that some people with type II have been able to lower their blood sugar and reduce their medication using tight diet control and "suppliments". But I never seem to find any details about WHAT suppliments they use and WHAT dosages.
 
Can anyone help me with a list of suppliments and dosages that work for type II?
 
Thanks in advance.

Warren
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Date Joined Oct 2005
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   Posted 5/5/2006 3:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi planoguy,
 
Welcome to the forum!!  1st let me tell you there are no magic bullets; if there were we'd all be using them.  HOWEVER, if you are fairly fastidious about learning and using the GI index to eat with, you can manage your carb load, increase your lean body mass and effect your overall blood sugar in a positive, PERMANENT way.  This isn't an easy road to hoe, but it makes you healthier over the long run.  LEARN what are no no's for a diabetic diet and don't be so strict with yourself that you don't binge with the occasional ice cream or piece of mom's apple pie!  Start by taking a good mega-vitamin supplement that has all the stuff in it.  This coupled with a really good diet and EXERCISE....let me repeat that; EXERCISE.....once more just incase you are speed reading this; EXERCISE!!!   That should have a major impact on your numbers as a type II.  Once you've been doing this for 3 months (a quarter) we can revisit your request on specific supplementation and make some no nonsense recommendations. 
 
Prior to that, however, diet and EXERCISE and a good megavitamin could maybe even cut your meds in half.
 
scool  Warren
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 5/5/2006 10:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Planoguy,
There are some 'supplements' out there that will help lower blood sugar like bitter mellon and cinnamon but they are grown all over the world, processed under uncontroled conditions and not subject to Food and Drug testing by the government so if they are 'real' or not, safe or not ... it's all a crap-shoot.

Staying with your food plan and exercise is the best way to go. Spend some money on an inexpensive blood glucose meter and lots of strips (I use a Prestige IQ, strips are only 30ยข each.) and test a lot to learn which foods are causing spikes and which foods are number friendly for you. (I can't eat rice or potatoes... they are like candy to my body!) Stay on your meds and if possible, exercise at least 3 or 4 times a week. Learn all you can about your disorder and you will soon be able to help newbies on the site get familiar with this new way to live.
~ Jeannie

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."

- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


desertdiabetic
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Date Joined Dec 2005
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   Posted 5/6/2006 9:13 AM (GMT -7)   
You have been doing this for a while - you did not mention where you stand as far as blood glucose levels or what your A1c is running That information is not necessary to answer you question, only gives background and some indicator of how your approach is working for you.

I am not completely sure what you mean by suppliments. I am assuming you mean anything that you can take that is not considered medication and does not require prescription. Probably the three things that are recommended most and even by the medical profession, by some anyway, would be Alph Lipoica Acid and Evening Primrose Oil and cinnamon.

Alpha Lipoic Acid is known to deplete biotin - you can purchase it with biotin added to counter this. I use Alpha Lipoin Acid Sustain just for this reason. The dose I have heard is 2 300mg every eight hours. Ouch - that can be expensive. Evening Primrose Oil taken with Alpha Lipoin Acid(ALA) is found to be helpful. 2 500mg every eight hours - a little less ouch, but still expensive when added to all the other things we have to buy. Cinnamon - I don't know the recommended dose. It is recommended that it be injested and not just sprinkled over something - that I don't know much about.

It is important to note that doing these is not a substitute for medications and certainly not a substitute for exercise. If you are at a point where medications are not necessary then, well that speaks for itself. I started off just like most people thinking that my goal should be to get off medications and that would be best for me. I think it is common belief that going from being on medications to not taking medications is a sign of success for type 2 diabetics. That is true to a point. I have found that having meds or no meds as a goal in not using the best approach. The first thing to shoot for is portecting your beta cells - you do thins by lowering your glucose levels - by whatever means. That is the goal - protect what you have left producing insulin. It is when you decide to stop taking medications and are you really in a position to do that. I believe if you can bring your Aic down below 5 with medications and then maintain that range without medications by diet and exerciise only then you are in proper control. If you A1c is in the mid 5's up and you cannot bering them down with diet and exercise only then you are slowly killing your beta cells. Your pancreas is working very hard to bring you down to normal range and not doing it. When people go into the doctor and they find out that they are in the mid 5's up the doctor will say that you can control with diet and exercise - if you are there with good diet and exercise control and you ajre not controlling better than the person who is not doing well on their diet and with little or no exercise and is getting med 5 A1c's. Very unpopular opinion I am sure.

I think Warren might have got the exercise part across. What I find the most difficult thing about saying to exercise is that it is something everybody hears to deal with any problem, or to prevent there being problems. No matter what you will hear added - get exercise. People don't hear exercise after awhile - it is just a stock statement that is for the next guy. Well, with the type 2 diabetic it is very different. The primary problem for a type 2 is insulin resistence - big problem for us. Exercise works directly to this problem. I cannot say that it is equal to a good diet, but it is vey close to being just as important. There is a treatment triangle here - medications(if necessary) proper diet and exercise.
type 2 - dx 12/04
metformin 500mg 3x - avanda 2mg 2x

Post Edited (desertdiabetic) : 5/6/2006 10:28:10 AM (GMT-6)

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