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dolphin_lover
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   Posted 9/2/2006 11:00 AM (GMT -7)   
hi i am dolphin_lover(Frances) i was on here before awhile ago and i got away for some reason buti am back ....i am having a hard time with my diet and how to rotate what to eat and stuff ...i am type 2 i just take meds for it  it is between 5 and 8 that's it...i get depress at times with it i need some input  at times to get back on track ..i miss all of u people on here my sister in law encourage me back on here so here i am ...waiting for your reply thanks again ...Frances
................Take Care All....GOD BLESS and KEEP you WELL...................Franny


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   Posted 9/2/2006 11:06 AM (GMT -7)   
Well Glad to see you took advice sis and these peeps on here are great and will help you out for sure ...............take care and KEEP POSTING......Luv ya SIS
You have done fantastic almost a yr ago you were reading 30 + (Canadian reading) and now look at your BSL........Be proud hold head high and know that you will get lots of support from here and me as always yeah
 


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dolphin_lover
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   Posted 9/2/2006 11:06 AM (GMT -7)   
i need some help what food is best for me and how to relieve some of my stress toward diabeties...it's nice to have different opinions from people who as the same plms as me//thanks again
................Take Care All....GOD BLESS and KEEP you WELL...................Franny


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   Posted 9/2/2006 11:11 AM (GMT -7)   
weekends can be slower sometimes but I am sure someone will post soon ,


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Post Edited (Lyn (Howlyncat)) : 9/5/2006 5:01:32 AM (GMT-6)


dolphin_lover
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   Posted 9/2/2006 11:24 AM (GMT -7)   
ok thanks sis i appreciatw the support and the help me on here ..it's nice to be back on here
................Take Care All....GOD BLESS and KEEP you WELL...................Franny


Jeannie143
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   Posted 9/4/2006 5:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Franny,

I'm a type 2 for over 10 years and probably was undiagnosed for 20 yrs before that from my symptoms. I have come to terms with my disease and am reconciled to the idea that I will be poking and injecting and testing and measuring for the rest of my days. It really helps that my children are knowledgable about diabetes so they help me stay on the straight and narrow and don't prod me to cheat.

Some helps for me:
Buy flour tortillas. They have a nice chewy texture that helps with that carb/pasta craving. I like to take sliced turkey breast (the commercial lunch-cold cut stuff), chicken, tuna or left over roast beef and lots of raw spinach, tomatoes, a little fresh onion, some mustard and a bit of mayo and I've got a supurb lunch! If you use the smaller flour tortillas they are only about 15 carbs each so for lunch I can have two on my food plan. I split the meat between them and pile on the raw veggies, roll it up and Yummmm!

I find english muffins to be more satisfying than regular toast so I have one at breakfast with my egg. I use a dab of real butter on my muffin because it tastes wonderful and makes me feel special. I also use butter to flavor my cooked veggies.
I buy fresh fruit instead of juice. It's better for you and the sugar in the fruit releases much slower than juice so you don't get so much of a post meal spike.

Remember to have some fat at every meal. You may cook with olive or peanut oil and a dab of butter, put olive oil on a salad with vinegar, use mayo or occasionally have some bacon or other fatty meat. It helps with vitamin absorption, slows stomach emptying time so you level out post meal peaks and it helps your hair and skin stay healthy. It also assists with bowel regularity.

With cooler weather coming I'll be making lots of soups. I like to substitute thinly sliced cabbage for about half of the noodles in my soups. Less carbs, more vitamins, better for you. I also use lots of barley, brown rice and wild rice as well as bulgar in my everyday meals. Cooking grains in the microwave is a snap and just takes a bit more time than white rice. I like to make big bowls of it and use a little all week long. These hearty types of grains are higher in fiber and more difficult for your body to digest. Because of this it takes longer for your intestines to process the carbs and this leads to a kind of 'time release' of the carbs contained in them. Again, this leads to more level blood sugars without the big highs and lows.

One of my best things to do is use bowls for portion control. If I'm going to have a snack, say some popcorn, I'll put my fair amount into a bowl that I know contains the correct amount for me. The rest goes in a big bowl for the family and out of my sight. I have a little bowl that holds just my 1/2 cup of icecream (yes! real icecream!) when I'm having that for a treat. I eat it with a baby feeding spoon so it lasts longer. I also use little icecream cones to put my one scoop on. Licking the cone takes longer and keeps me satisfied.

I try to buy meats in single portion packaging, like frozen chicken breasts. That way I take out the amount that I need to prepare for dinner and there isn't a huge amount left. I buy lots of frozen vegetables and try to have at least two at dinner as well as a salad at lunch or dinner.

about once a month I treat myself to a lunch out at my favorite Asian buffet. I still watch my carbs but I have some wonderful foods that have sweet sauces and are fried... I usually go a bit overboard but it helps me keep sane. Hope these ideas help you a bit. Hang in there girlfriend! We can do this!

Ohh.. just remembered. I use a food diary plan called CalorieKing when I'm out of whack. It helps me see where I am thru the day on fats, carbs, proteins and fiber. I downloaded it from the internet and there are other food plan helps out there too. You just have to search for them. Good luck and keep coming back. We will help.
~ Jeannie

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- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


dolphin_lover
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   Posted 9/4/2006 8:38 PM (GMT -7)   
jeannie; thank you for your help with food and some ideas it really help me alot ...i don't feel so bad when i have ice cream once awhile ...i crave it sometimes....i guess we r all humans lol ...i am not to fussy about brown rice but i guess i will have to get used to it ...but u really encourage me more not to give up and go on ..i thank u once again ...your friend franny
................Take Care All....GOD BLESS and KEEP you WELL...................Franny


Claire-Bear
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   Posted 9/5/2006 1:27 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Frances,

I just wanted to say Welcome Back!!

The diet part can be difficult sometimes, but Jeannie has given some really good advice.

Claire x


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   Posted 9/5/2006 4:04 AM (GMT -7)   
tongue  I told you those Tortilla shells were great I use them all the time so does cait and makes a great lunch for sure ..........and helps with my crohns .......


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Jeannie143
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   Posted 9/5/2006 8:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Delicious Herbed Brown Rice/Barley dish

Use a very large microwave bowl, clear glass is great if you have it. Choose a measuring item (cup, coffee cup, small bowl, anything small will do.) Use the same item to measure grain and water.
For Brown Rice use one measure of brown rice and two measures of hot tap water
Add some Wild Rice (for flavor, color and texture) use one tablespoon of wild rice and 2 tablespoons of hot water
For Barley use one measure of barley and a scant three measures of hot water
Drop in a chicken bouillon cube or some commercial beef or chicken soup stock paste (from restaurant supply stores)

Add your choices of some dried parsley, onion powder (not onion salt), garlic powder, some dried celery leaves, pinch of thyme, basil, oregano, cummin, dark sesame oil, chili powder-- any of your favorite herb combinations. You can make curried rice, mexican rice, asian rice, italian rice... the flavors are endless.

Pour about two tablespoons of olive oil on top to prevent too much frothing. Put a dinner plate in the microwave. Put the bowl on top of the plate.(This is to catch any boilover and make cleanup easier.) Cover the bowl with a lid or another plate. Microwave on high from 6 to 10 minutes or until you get a rolling boil (or it bubbles up out of the bowl and spills onto the plate below tongue ) Microwave on defrost or 30% power for about 45 minutes. Check it after about 40 minutes. It should be fully cooked with no water in the bottom of the bowl. Stores well in the fridge for a week, and freezer for about three months. I store it in single servings so I can have this with a chicken breast when the guys are having something that's not so diabetic friendly.

1/2 cup of this offers about 20gm available carbs for a meal. It's very filling and because the grains are intact (not pulverized as they are in pasta) your body has to work harder to digest them. This leads to a prolonged energy release in the small intestine and lowers blood sugar peaks. Also, because of the higher fiber content (six times that of white rice) these starches move much more quickly through the intestines and aren't sitting around to be absorbed. (You may even notice some undigested grains in your stool.)
~ Jeannie

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Post Edited (Jeannie143) : 9/5/2006 9:21:20 AM (GMT-6)


Chutsman
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   Posted 9/5/2006 10:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Dolphin, in addition to the advice from others, perhaps you should go to the "Google Gods" :-) and search for glycemic index.  One of the links should give you a page that has a list of foods with their respective GI numbers.  It will be eye opening.  Print it out and keep it on your refrigerator.  It helps me.

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dolphin_lover
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   Posted 9/6/2006 7:16 AM (GMT -7)   
Chutsman..thanks i will go to google god's and get that and i will put it up on my fridge ...i appreciate all the help and tahnks again
................Take Care All....GOD BLESS and KEEP you WELL...................Franny


dolphin_lover
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   Posted 9/6/2006 7:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Lynn (howlyncat ....yupper i know u told me about tortillas r very good for a meal ...i will have to learn to eat them now with different types of veggies and checken and other meat ..
................Take Care All....GOD BLESS and KEEP you WELL...................Franny


Howlyncat
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   Posted 9/6/2006 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie I am gonna go and do that dish you posted as my other half is diabetic as well I think I just may be able to eat it with minor troubles with my crohns and I know daughter will love it .....thanks
Chutsman am gonna do the same and post it on my fridge.......thanks.........love your sig lol
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judyinky
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   Posted 9/8/2006 11:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi you all,
I'm Judy. I was digging around the board and found this post. I am having trouble with my diet too Dolphin. I am in need of good support and recipes like the ones that Jeannee has been posting.
I did so well when I was first diagnosed after beginning prednisone. I have even lost weight and went to many sites getting info, recipes, ect. Now after about 5 months I am having difficulty keeping the regimin I started. So.. I need HELP!!! getting back on track!

I know I am doing a lot of things right. That is for sure. I have educated myself a lot about food, but do now know much about the disease itself and how it works. When I was doing well, I went weeks without even taking any insulin because my levels were so predicitable and in the right range. I using a diabetic diet that I had gotten off line in. I ate every 3-4 hours.. so many calaries, carbs, protein, and fat. I am working to get back on that.

Speaking of breads.. I have found some low carb flat breads that are really good. I love to make the wraps too like Jeannie mentioned. I have also found some low carb, splenda sweetened yogurt that I eat with a low carb cereal that I have some mornings. That sounds gross to some people but is really good. I like it. I just mix the yogurt with the cereal and yummy.. lol. Also, I have found milk that is low sugar, low carb and low in fat. It's called HOOD and might be hard to find, is a little more expensive, but I love my milk, and like to make smoothies with it. Also, love sugar free jello, and whipped topping (sugar free). I have grown to love asparagus and eat lots of salads.. I found found so many things to go on salads, tuna, almonds, (a lot of the obvious veggies). I try to eat at least one salad a day, sometimes 2. Anyway, that is where I am.

I woud love some feedback. I have been waking up with high blood glucose levels in the 150-170 and that is really strange. My sleep schedule has changed the last few days though. Also, I am on a new medication. I really need to ck with my doctor, and, or pharmacy about that.

Bye for now.

Be Well,

Judy
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it is the sweet fragrance of grace."



wmnak
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   Posted 9/9/2006 7:44 AM (GMT -7)   

I'm finding it extremely difficult to get back on track, too!  After ostomy surgery 6 months ago, my bg numbers are up and my "bite of this, bite of that," attitude has me on the verge of Trouble.

I use the Hood milk, too ... love it, and well worth the extra $ to lower sugar content from 12 down to 3!  :-)


gelchick
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   Posted 9/9/2006 6:57 PM (GMT -7)   
 
I am so easily distracted from eating according to my plan, especially when temptation comes my way, that my husband actually accused me of deliberately going to Sam's club when all of those sweet sample ladies are dishing up their treats! :-) lol - and he got so sick of my whining about how all of my efforts were in vain that he found me an online site where I could record everything I eat. I agreed to journal EVERYTHING that went into my mouth and all of my exercise for 1 full week. What an eye opener! I immediately discovered some big problem areas (too much salt and sugars, too little protein), that 2 eggs have more than 1 day's worth of cholesterol (back to egg beaters for me), that I think I burn more calories than I do..anyhow I am now a journal junkie and am begging him to buy me a nice piece of software for my birthday where I can track my BG readings and moods, along with the food and exercise. Just wait until my doctor gets a look at my cool progress charts!
 
So, I humbly suggest journaling as a means to get back on track, and stay on track!

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wmnak
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   Posted 9/9/2006 11:08 PM (GMT -7)   

I used a steno pad and journaled every bite, every meter reading, for a couple of years.  Fell off the wagon almost a year ago when the wheels came off, lol, and need to get back to it. 

Such a valuable exercise!  We can't fix what we don't know about, and sometimes our memories get skewed if we haven't recorded intake and/or stresses as they occur.

Congrats on your journaling ... :-)


Chutsman
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   Posted 9/11/2006 7:02 AM (GMT -7)   
JudyInky, those high morning readings may be the result of the Somogyi effect (did I spell that right?) also called the Dawn Phenomenon.  Search here, or Google, for more info on it.

The short form for "you are" is "you're", NOT "your".


gelchick
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   Posted 9/11/2006 12:02 PM (GMT -7)   
OK- I'm confused. I thought the Dawn Effect and the Symogi effect were two different things. Can somebody please claify? Thanks :-)
I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


Phishbowl
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   Posted 9/11/2006 4:50 PM (GMT -7)   
The Somogyi Effect (named after some Doctor) and also referred to as the "Rebound Effect", is thought to be "man-made"; the result of insulin or diabetic medicine working too hard at the wrong time. It typically presents as a pattern of low lows (less than 70) to high highs (over 200), usually during the wee hours but can happen when too much insulin is circulating.

The Dawn Phenomenon is what occurs when hormones are released early in the morning (2-4 AM). This happens for everyone and it causes in increase of glucose into the system. In Diabetics, not enough insulin in circulation to handle the added glucose load... can cause the high morning levels.

They are two different results of two different causes. You can figure out which may apply by checking sugars between 2-3AM. Over time, when you log all your activities (food, BGLs, Meds, Insulin, etc.), patterns emerge - sometimes where you least expect them 'cause our minds like to play tricks on us when we're "guessing" our portions :-)

I'm a bit of an Excel freak and can never find anything comprehensive enough to use as a diary template, so I personally created my own daily log book (2 days per page). I photocopy the printout a bunch, cut each page in half, use a 2 hole punch, and attach it with a fastener to a file folder cut in half and 2-hole punched as well. It's now 8.5x5.5 and portable and I record everything on it. I transpose a lot of the "hard data" into another "master" Excel sheet (I did say I was a bit of an Excel freak :-) where I can do any number of things with the data - charts are fun. It may seem tedious to transpose the data but I find it allows me another opportunity to analyze the data. Recording the data without putting perspective to the numbers (how they might relate to food, exercise, meds, etc), won't provide the knowledge necessary to make appropriate changes.

Hope this helps some :-)
Cheers,
- Phishbowl (Type 1 since Jan'05 - Levemir, NovoRapid)

"What's Not Measured Is Not Managed"

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