Will someone explain the physiology of all this to me???

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4sons
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   Posted 1/11/2007 4:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,

Really. I'm stumped. I mean, I understand SOME of what my body is doing, but not all of it. ANY insight would be more than welcome.

I had a horrific, horrendous, no good, very bad day at work.

VERY bad.

I stopped into a colleague's room and ate (yeah ... gasp now) four pieces of hard candy. I knew it was wrong and in the back of my mind I was thinking it would make a good experiment in blood sugar/exercise. That was at 4:45. At 5:00 I was home and took my bs. 170. Scared the !Q(&#(*!&#(! out of me. Got on the treadmill and ran for 15 minutes. 4.4 mph. Took my bs. 163. Got back on. Ran 10 minutes. Tested. 130. Got back on. Ran 10 minutes (all at 4.4 mph). Took my bs. 94.

I have done anything like that (the running/testing/running/testing/running/testing thing). I don't understand what was going on inside my body.

This is what I get.

1. I ate sugar.
2. BS went UP.
3. I exercised.
4. BS still went UP! THIS I don't understand.
5. I run/test/run/test and repeat.
6. My BS plummets.

What's up with the increase despite the exercise?

Will someone please explain this all to me? I know I am able to be soooooooo much better when I understand the ways and therefores of almost anything.

Thanks!
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


TDH
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   Posted 1/11/2007 5:08 PM (GMT -7)   

I'm new at this too but I'll try and explain what I have discovered and been told.

Immediatly after eating, your bs will spike upwards. This is true in non-diabetics as well. However, about 2 hours after eating is when your bs should be back down in a somewhat normal range.

According to your post, your last test was still within an hour of when you ate the candy. I don't think a bs of 94 within an hour of eating some candy is bad at all. Just my opinion. Maybe someone else will jump with another opinion.

All the best...TDH


4sons
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   Posted 1/11/2007 6:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Ok.

Not to be completely stupid ... but I thought the exercise would keep it from going higher and would lower it! I know it has to peak somewhere ... but why didn't it stop climbing at 170?

Good luck to you, too, TDH!
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


Chutsman
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   Posted 1/11/2007 7:29 PM (GMT -7)   
The only valid answer I can think of is that there is a delay between the exercise and its effect on your bs.  And it seems reasonable that it should be so.  The fact that your numbers went down after the fourth (or was it third) round of exercise could really be the result of the first exercise.
 
about the candy ... try carrying with you at all times, some sugar free candy.



The short form for "you are" is "you're", NOT "your".


4sons
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   Posted 1/11/2007 8:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Chutsman ... remember that discussion about the gastrointestinal effects of some artificial sweetener??? Well, they clobber me. Send me running to the rest room for hours, in fact.

Maybe gum ...
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


Jeannie143
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   Posted 1/11/2007 11:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Actually, Ruth, four pieces of hard candy may not have been the culprit you think it was. The bad day's stress may have had some impact on your blood glucose as well. When I have a low BG episode I have to eat three or four pieces of candy to get my sugar back up. If you look on a bag of hard candy one serving (15 gm carb) is usually three to four pieces anyway.

Your exercising may have had an effect on your sugar and your stress level as well. I'm not sure that anyone here can tell you exactly what happened but I wouldn't worry too much about it. cookies, candy, fudge, ice cream, donuts, they're all out there. Sometimes we make a bad choice. Ok. Just don't make a habit of choosing wrong. And you did the right thing afterward.

The peeps I worry about are the ones that have a little blip on their radar and then go home and give up entirely and eat a bag of cookies and a quart of Haagen Das. Ya gots to be nicer to yourself, girlfriend! Just KOKO! (Keep on keepin' on!)
~ Jeannie
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- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


Chutsman
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   Posted 1/12/2007 6:47 AM (GMT -7)   
4sons said...
Chutsman ... remember that discussion about the gastrointestinal effects of some artificial sweetener??? Well, they clobber me. Send me running to the rest room for hours, in fact.

Maybe gum ...

There's a school of thought that says chewing gum will make you gain weight because it stimulates your gastric juices which will make you want to eat.  But with so many sugar free candies out there you ought to be able to find one that agrees with you.  Keep trying.  Have you seen the ones that look like LifeSavers?  Wal-Mart has them.

The short form for "you are" is "you're", NOT "your".


4sons
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   Posted 1/12/2007 8:35 AM (GMT -7)   
I wish I could find something with Splenda ... I seem to do ok with that. That zorbitol stuff KILLS me. I mean it wrings me out for DAYS!

Maybe I'll hit Walmart this weekend and see what's around.

Thanks for the suggestion!
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


Phishbowl
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   Posted 1/12/2007 9:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi 4sons,
The one thing to understand about the "physiology of all this", or should I say, your metabolism, is that the body is pretty quick to deal with the energy coming in (i.e. food and raising blood sugar) but not necessarily so quick with the expending of it (i.e. exercise or medication to bring sugars down).

As Jeannie mentioned, your stressful day could have been a reason for your sugars to be elevated in the first place. You didn't test before eating the candy so you'll not know just how much or how little your blood sugar was affected by it. That you were at 94 less than an hour after eating the candy is a good thing but as Chutsman says, it could have started to come down just from the first exercise. Or... it could also be that the candy you ate had "expired" (meaning, it did it's job in TEMPORARILY raising your blood sugar; making it "spike", like it's supposed to). Could be that your last meal had "expired" and that your body would be looking for more food soon - you were going to have dinner within the next couple hours, ya?

The exercise may have helped some but the thing with exercise is that it can have an effect on your blood sugars (metabolism) for hours afterwards and doesn't usually have the immediate effect you might be looking for. I wish even insulin could work that fast :-)

Try not to stress too much about your numbers; you really are doing fab. Seems to me like you've got a good handle on things already and your desire to understand more will reward you with a better and better understanding of your own body. Hope you're keeping a log of everything so you can spot patterns? As Jeannie says, "KOKO!"
Cheers,
- Phishbowl (Type 1 since Jan'05 - Levemir, NovoRapid)

"What's Not Measured Is Not Managed"


Chutsman
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   Posted 1/12/2007 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   
4sons said...
I wish I could find something with Splenda ... I seem to do ok with that. That zorbitol stuff KILLS me. I mean it wrings me out for DAYS!

Maybe I'll hit Walmart this weekend and see what's around.

Thanks for the suggestion!

There are "tons" of them with Splenda.  You might also try CVS, though they are more expensive.  And even in the Dollar Tree stores I've seen sugar free.

The short form for "you are" is "you're", NOT "your".


gelchick
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   Posted 1/12/2007 12:37 PM (GMT -7)   

I find that aerobic exercise, weight training always raises my BG - you body is expending energy to keep your heart pumping and your muscles fueled- once your energy 'stores' (glycogen) are depleted (and you can't store very much)- your liver starts to create more glucose by gluconeogenesis - this raises your BG temporarily, and causes your insulin level to rise to escort the new glucose into your muscles- your body doesn't know that you're going to get off the treadmill in X minutes- so it keeps on churning out the fuel until the liver gets the signal that no more is needed. Meanwhilw the insulin is doing it's job of getting fuel to the muscles and helping any leftovers to go into fat storage.

A longer period of sustained (66% of your aerobic maximum) exercise (30 minutes or more) tends to sop up the glucose in your blood and start to tap into your energy stores without depleting them- (it also helps to build your muscles rather than tone your cardiovascular system) so your liver doesn't start to make glucose and your insulin level doesn't rise. You can test out your response with your meter- I had a couple of sessions with a personal trainer who specializes in diatebes related exercise routines and he taught me how to make the best use of my exercise time. I am usually able to eat enough carbs to raise my BG to about 110-120 and then exercise it down so I can ride my exercise bike for about an hour.  I also carb up like this when I plan to go somewhere where I will be walking for a long time- I don't worry about going too low or having to stop and eat at an inconvenient time that way. I wind up in the high 70's or low 80's- and feel virtuous becasue I exercised-lol

sandy


I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett

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