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Million
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   Posted 1/31/2007 7:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey, Just started my new pump dec 28th 2006, It's been the best thing thing that could have happened. After 28 years of denial, I finally put my cards on the table with a specialist. The problem I'm having now is that I had cortizone shots in my shoulder and my blood sugars have been up to 346. We had to change all my basals and double my bolus when I eat. I know I had to do something with the pain in my shoulders,(they are much better now), but this isn't good. Any suggestions or experience's from you guys might be helpful

Servants heart
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   Posted 1/31/2007 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello

I have diabetes also. I finally got off my pump just 3 years ago by eliminating all flour from my diet and adding glyconutrients. Sometimes I have arthritis like pain in my hand. I use a cream from various hot peppers. I think it is called Capsaicin. You can order it anywhere online. it can burn at first, but it is great for pain and won't raise the blood sugar. :-)

Take care and let me know if I can help again.

Million
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   Posted 1/31/2007 9:39 PM (GMT -7)   
yeah  Thanks so much for the tips. I'll give it a try. Good luck to you. I hope it all works out.
 

AMM
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   Posted 2/1/2007 4:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Cortizone can raise blood sugars. To be honest I would try to avoid it unless there was no other way. I'd look into at least trying the cream. Perhaps you could discuss with your doctor some other way to relieve the pain without raising your blood sugars. Perhaps you might need to set a temporary basal that is higher for when you have the shots.

SH,
I am curious as to why you went off the pump. Did you go back to shots? For me, I would never want to go back to shots now that I have the pump.
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Million
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   Posted 2/1/2007 6:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes I am also curious, Are you completely off the insulin?????? AMM , I'm having a hard time deciding if I will continue w/ the cortizone. I read an article at my diabetes educators office about Frozen Shoulder and it discribed my symtoms to a T. The pain was so intense that I couldn't lift my elbows off my waist. The shot did help the pain instantaniously . But 2 days later my achyness is starting to return. The Dr. says it is a series of 3 injections and I will be asking for a referral for physical therapy also. JUST CAN"T DECIDE. It Sucks

Servants heart
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   Posted 2/1/2007 12:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for the interest in my getting free from the pump. I hope your pain wll soon be relieved and solved. It is nice to finally get to the root of the problem instead of only being able to treat the symptom. This change for me was a lifestyle change. I do not eat any white flour or dairy products. I also stopped eating various high glycemic foods that required insulin peaks to break it down. Many of my patients that are doing this same thing are seeing improvements, especially the Type 2's. The processed foods seem to trigger my need for insulin too. I have gone to whole live foods only. I researched and studied how the cells actually work and what they need to reproduce and function optimally. This lead me to the Glyconutrients and the use of negative Ions to open up the cell membrane and the receptor sites. When the body makes healthycells, it develops healthy tissue and organs, etc. This entire process is quite involved. I am trying to give you the real basic version. The chemistry of the body and the healing of the Beta Cells involves various processes within the bone marrow as well (This is a key concept).
I am seeing results and proof within our labwork that the body can make adult stem cells to re create our original DNA with proper sugar levels and the raw materials the body needs to do its job. Most of us don't eat in such a way or get the proper foods in order for the body to go through this in depth healing process. The result is regaining health again.

I hope this helps. I don't want to go on too long. If you still have questions, I can direct you to some additional information that may be helpful for your benefit too.

Blessings,

AMM
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   Posted 2/1/2007 1:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Are you saying you don't take insulin? A type 1 diabetic can't do that or they will die. Type 1 diabetics don't make any insulin.
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LanieG
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   Posted 2/1/2007 1:34 PM (GMT -7)   

AMM, I think this posting by AH is trying to direct interested members here to websites that sell these "glyconutrients".  I googled that word and came up with a slew of infomercial-type sites.  I apologize in advance if I'm wrong but as always, we need to be careful of snake oil.  Just my opinion.   nono

Lanie


AMM
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   Posted 2/1/2007 2:28 PM (GMT -7)   
That's sort of what I was thinking as well. Any advice that tells someone not to take the medicine prescribed by thier doctor can not only be dangerous but deadly. If this person is saying they went off insulin altogether they couldn't be a type 1. If I stopped taking my insulin I would be dead within a short period of time. I know. I attempted it as a teenager. (it's a wonder I ever reached adulthood) The poster never did answer if they went off insulin or just off the pump. It is certainly possible to go off the pump, but you would have to go back to shots. I certainly wouldn't want to take that step backwards in my health care. As for eating in a healthy manner it will definately help diabetes. It won't get rid of it but it can certainly help manage it. I also believe this is a case of selling snake oil.
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walker
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   Posted 2/1/2007 5:56 PM (GMT -7)   
In regards to your shoulder pain, I'm
a big fan of chiropractics.I'm a dog groomer
and have pain often. He does deep ultrasound,
electronic acupuncture and I work it out under
a hot shower and immediately ice it for 20
minutes.Gels are great,too.Biofreeze works
well for me. I wouldn't be opposed to trying
(needle) acupuncture. Good luck!
think happy thoughts and stay strong.


Servants heart
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   Posted 2/1/2007 5:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Those are some wise and skeptical replies. I commend you for being skeptical. That is well needed these days. I am a practitioner , not a salesman, however. My family doctor, who is an MD has seen me through this process, along with my endocrinologist. Certain things are possible, but often the medical community doesn't do their full due diligence on matters to confirm them. That is too bad. My Pancreas, last test, showed it was functioning at a 75% . I developed Diabetes when I was 13 so it is type I. The only time I keep insulin around is if I plan to eat flour. If I eat the typical foods in the stores I would need the pump again, I am sure.
My doctor believes there has been a regeneration. All the documentation I have done and the studies I have researched, confirm the body can do many many things when given the proper materials, or foods to get the job done. I believe in keeping my mind open to possibilities.

Ya know what else is interesting, is my dad and my friend are both type 2 Diabetics. They are doing some of the things I did and they too are seeing huge improvements in their Diabetic condition. My friend is now off his insulin. He is thrilled, of course. it is not a miracle or magic or anything like that. I think it is just deciding to learn and to practice what is logical with self discipline long enough to give the body time to recover.

Everyone is different and each response is unique, but I do hope and I do wish for those that seek it to find relief and health and happiness...

Genuinely

AMM
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   Posted 2/1/2007 7:02 PM (GMT -7)   
The type of diabetes is not dependent on the age at which you get it. Type 1 diabetics have no insulin production unless they are still in the honeymoon stage. Either type of diabetes can develop at any age. If I do not take my insulin and do not eat my blood sugar will rise rapidly. That is because I am a type 1 and do not make ANY insulin. When I was 17 years old I did just that and went into dka and had to be airlifted to the hospital.
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LanieG
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   Posted 2/1/2007 7:26 PM (GMT -7)   

I'm not an expert nor am I a doctor.  I have learned many facts from this forum and from reading material both online and in books.  The forum moderators here are the most experienced and informed in this non-professional community.  What I do know is that carbs will increase the blood sugar readings.  An online article mentioned here a couple of weeks ago related a physician that told her patients to stop eating carbs and some of the patients were able to stop meds for diabetes - but I believe those patients were the ones whose diabetes was caused by being overweight.  Not every diabetic's body will react like that.  Not every diabetic is overweight.  As AMM says, if the body doesn't produce insulin, it's not going to suddenly go back to producing it.  It would be an anomaly.  Lifestyle changes do have an affect: diet and eating patterns and exercise.  If this is what SH is saying, yes, that's true, but it would hardly be correct to say all diabetics could be off insulin merely by changing lifestyle.

My two cents.  Lanie


Servants heart
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   Posted 2/1/2007 7:27 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, Diabetes can rave havoc on the body very quickly when we get out of balance. I had a stroke from it when I was 23. it was so sudden and scary. I don't suppose you know of any real good current low glycemic cook books do you? I have trouble finding the right blend of foods that do not convert when cooked and some of the material I find is very conflicting.
Thanks

LanieG
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   Posted 2/1/2007 8:07 PM (GMT -7)   

I'm not sure what you mean by "convert when cooked".  Your physician would be able to refer you to a registered dietician who can tell you about foods, glycemic index, and so on.  In my experience, I can't eat some foods that others can eat because my body reacts to them with high blood sugar readings, like brown rice or whole grain bread.  I may be able to eat a bite or two but not a whole portion.  Each person has to find what foods work for him or her.  Portion size is also important as well as daily exercise.  Again, every person's body may react differently to all this and that's why we need to be more attentive to what we do now.  I'm sure there are many good cook books out there.  I have the South Beach diet book and have found it useful.  You can check on the Web for recipes, too.  And there are other members who may suggest other books.

Good luck, Lanie 


Million
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   Posted 2/2/2007 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
servants heart, I hope all works for you. Our society is pretty lazy about eating properly, Myself included. I wish I had you motivation. Keep up the good work

Roneroadrunner
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   Posted 10/27/2007 3:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I am a type 2 diabetic and have had my sugar in check for quite some time now. Just recently, I went to my doctor for my 3 month bloodwork/checkup. While I was there, my doctor gave me a cortizone shot for my tennis elbow.  I had no idea that the cortizone shot would make my sugar go up, way up.  But I was informed that my glucose count should start to come back down after a few days. Instead, it seems to still be going up. For those with this experience, will it really come down in the next several days or am I looking at getting more help to bring it back down?  My understanding is that I am on the maximun amount of medicine that I can take and the next step is a shot that will supposedly make my pancreas work more efficiently.  Any experience in this matter would be helpful.

Marburg
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   Posted 10/30/2007 1:07 PM (GMT -7)   
After a cortisone shot to my knee my bs went up for about 5 days, by day 7 it was back down.

Marburg
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