Quitting Smoking with Diabetes

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joules
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   Posted 2/5/2007 9:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Seems I am bearing my soul to this forum - well here goes. In addition to all my past sins, I have to admit that I am a heavy smoker (two packs a day). I have made a commitment to give up the weeds and am just about ready. One of the big things that is holding me back is the weight issue. I seem to be making real good progress and dont want to backslide. My question is - has anyone here been able to give up smoking without putting on weight? Is weight gain a result of body changes or just because people tend to eat more when they are giving up smoking?

(Fixed the subject for you. ~Jeannie)

Post Edited By Moderator (Jeannie143) : 2/15/2007 12:51:35 PM (GMT-7)


AMM
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   Posted 2/6/2007 4:49 AM (GMT -7)   
I have never smoked so I don't really know much about the quitting issue. I think at least some of the weight gain might be because of eating more. I have heard a lot of people say they eat more when they are quitting smoking. It might not be all of it but it probably plays a part. Good luck with the quitting.
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 2/6/2007 7:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Joules,
Bless your heart for making this decision. I quit smoking 15 years ago and it was the singularly most difficult as well as most rewarding thing I have ever done for myself and my family. about the weight issue... First of all, you can change food intake to lose weight.. You can't unsmoke lung and throat tissue. Stopping smoking now, even if there is a slight weight gain, will be far better for your entire body than the few pounds that may pop up for a while.

Here's the deal with cigarette smoke. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor so it raises blood pressure and decreases the oxygen supply to the muscle tissue, organs and heart. When it makes the tiny blood vessels constrict, the intestinal mucosa where nutrients cross the membrane and enter the blood supply works very inefficiently. Smokers actually need to eat more food than necessary for their bodies to absorb what they need. Also, because smoking decreases the uptake of many vitamins and minerals necessary for "good" appetite, especially the B vitamins, smokers often feel hunger and will browse in the cupboards or fridge for something that tastes 'right'. The body knows it needs something but the smoking has dulled the fine tuner so a smoker will eat many things trying to find the right food.

When you quit smoking there is an initial weight gain because your body is working much better at absorbing nutrients from your intestines. As your body becomes more efficient you need to change your eating patterns a bit. First of all you need to add a good multivitamin. (If you are approaching 50 it should be something 'silver' with low iron content. Excess iron in the body has been targeted in heart problems.) Also, as your taste buds heal you will find food tasting unbelievably awesome. Smells and aromas will have you salivating like Pavlov's dogs! Your appetite will increase by leaps and bounds because everything will smell and taste so good. The secret here is to use this new tasting ability to try foods you never really cared about. If someone would have told me 15 years ago that I could get excited about broccoli drizzled with olive oil and grilled with some salmon over a fire I would have laughed. Now I've become an olive oil connoisseur and have a favorite brand! And I can actually find some left over broccoli in the fridge and be like, "Ohhh, broccoli!"

If you use your newly acquired taste to find new healthy foods that are low carb you will be way ahead of the game. Just don't flood those happy taste buds with things like cheese cake and pasta Alfredo! They will taste doubly awesome, too, and the Road to Perdition is paved with foods like that! I like to save my 'cheats' for special occasions and even then, if I order a piece of cheesecake I order it with a small styrofoam container so I can cut it in 1/3's right from the get go and put 2/3 of it away for later. Then I savor every crumb of what is left on my plate. Other than alcohol, I forbid myself nothing. I just don't have much more than a taste every time I have it.

Good luck with the quitting. Please stop by and post whenever you want a cigarette... Someone is bound to see your note and give you a pep talk to keep from lighting up. You can do this!
~ Jeannie
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Warren
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   Posted 2/6/2007 10:23 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Joules,

Jeannie's absolutely right; your body goes through a metabolic change and you WILL gain weight!  Since it takes a huge amount of willpower to quit, and I've found the only really successful way to do it is cold turkey, you may as well go on a diet at the same time.  It gives you something else to focus on rather than smoking and will help mitigate the weight gain.

Having been a smoker and having given it up, I can tell you its not an easy road.  HOWEVER, all the bad things that accrue from smoking will kill or severely damage you MUCH faster than a a dozen extra pounds. Remember, 7 years from now your lungs will have healed to the point at which they are the equivalent of a non-smoker. Quit today! Putting it off simply becomes a convenient excuse.  Good Luck

scool Warren

eljay1066
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   Posted 2/6/2007 11:03 AM (GMT -7)   
I quit smoking 17 years ago, and I agree with Jeannie that it was the most difficult and the best thing I ever did. One thing that did help was drinking a lot of water. It helps to eliminate the nicotine from your system and also gives you a different "oral fixation." I also had to change my lifestyle, gave up coffee for a while, since that was an "occasion of smoking" for me. So was driving; I held pretzel rods the way I would a cigarette and nibbled them in the car. I had always smoked while paying bills, couldn't give up paying them, but I did change desks just to modify the environment. Walking, feeding birds, and photographing wild life all helped to give me a new focus. Yes, I did gain some weight, but not as much as I expected to, and it came off more easily after I was established as a non-smoker. Oh, and last but far from least, I joined a group. The mutual support, information, and even rituals like turning in our lighters and ashtrays, were invaluable. I wish you all the luck in the world. I am so happy I was finally able to make a positive change and it was absolutely worth it. Be very good to yourself while you're in transition. Take time out to read or take a long bath, get a massage, or do whatever relaxes and comforts you. It's the best time in the world to pamper yourself and reward yourself for hard and important work.
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gelchick
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   Posted 2/6/2007 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
I quit smoking almost 30 years ago. I lost 15 pounds. My husband remembers that I always had dinner, a ciggie, and then coffee and dessert with another ciggie later on. When I gave up the smokes, I gave up dessert. I started to walk after dinner - just a small one- to take my mind off the smoke and didn't want the dessert when I came in. I associated a lot of things- dessert, cocktail type drinks, beer nuts, pretzels etc with cigarettes- they just didn't taste the same without the smoke (go figure), so I stopped eating them.  The same thing happened to my mom and brother- so who knows- maybe it's genetic.
 
Good luck with stopping! And Warren is right about the cold turkey. My dad stopped smoking when Buffalo got snowed in back in the 60's. The snow was up our windows and we couldn't go anywhere for days. He ran out about the second day-but after the week was up and the National Guard showed up at our door with milk, bread, and YES cigarettes- he refused and never smoked again!
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joules
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   Posted 2/6/2007 3:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Well here's the scoop!!!!!!! Thank you all so much for your words of encouragement. While I realise this is a diabetic site - smoking and diabetes are definitely having an impact on my circulation. I have those shooting pains in my feet and my cardiovascular workouts are very tough on me. So I have had an idea. Tell me what you think. I am gonna designate Valentine's Day as My Day to give a gift to my Heart!!!!!!! That is one week from today. So I thought I would throw out a challange to any other diabetic who is thinking about giving up smoking. Join me!!!!!!! and let's see how we do...... I am going to do this anyway but thought it might become fun if I had others for support. I am going to take a lot of the tips you have given me. A lady I was talking to today told me to do the following. She told me to get a jar with a lid and fill it half full with water. She then said I should put in all my cigarette ends for the next week - isnt that gross. She said that the sight and smell of that will put me off cigarettes for life!!!!!!! She said to label that jar - This is my current heart. Then get another jar with just pure water and put it beside it and label it - This is my new heart....... From what you have all told me I will most probably reverse my weight loss a bit but Jeannie really struck home when she said "You can change food intake to lose weight - you can't unsmoke lung and throat tissue!!" Thanks again.... I do hope I get at least one person to join me!!!!!!!!!!

4sons
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   Posted 2/6/2007 3:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Joules, that is a GREAT idea and I love, love, LOVE the idea of the jar/water/butts. Totally gross.

Visualization is HUGE for success of almost any kind. Did you happen to see Oprah when she wheeled out her "fat?" When I think of not losing more weight I think of that gross, lumpy fat. Then I think of my body. THEN I think of seals. Yup. Seals. I'd rather look like a seal. Ok. A middle aged one. LOL.

Hey, I have an online friend who smoked for 17 years and quit seven months ago. SEVEN MONTHS she's done it ... you can, too!

Think sleek as a seal with sweet, pink lungs.

yeah
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


Jeannie143
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   Posted 2/7/2007 8:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Joules,
Even if you go this alone because no one joins you, we will support you 110%!!! And yes, this is directly related to diabetes so post away to your heart's content. I love the jars of water trick. Here are some that helped me:

Whenever I wanted a cigg I would eat 10 radishes. The aftertaste in your mouth after radishes is much like the burning flavor of tobacco. I ended up with a pound-a-day radish habit, but they are only about $1.00 a bag vs. $!!!! (I have no idea how much weeds are today.) Nice thing about radishes is that they are a totally free food. 10 radishes contain 1.6 calories, 0.01 gm fat, 0.07 gm protein, 3.9 mg sodium, 0.34 gm carbohydrate, 0.16 gm fiber and 2.5 mg calcium.

As a socially acceptable alternative to radishes when in meetings or at work you could try sugar-free cinnamon gum. After the sweetness of the gum is gone the 'burny-cinnamnon' flavor is also much like the aftertaste of cigarettes. This helped me a lot, too.

And finally, if you smoke menthol cigarettes then you are also addicted to menthol. The alternative that I used for this was sugar-free mentholyptus cough drops after the radishes... Sounds very weird, I know, but it worked for me! Worth a try, can't hurt, might help.

I also spent some money on premium scented fancy-schmancy shampoo, (since my sense of smell would be returning, I wanted to smell my clean hair!) as well as some very nice nail polish, and manicure stuff. I would devote some time every day to filing, polishing, buffing, soaking and generally 'spoiling' my nails and cuticles. I got kind of obsessed with it for a while, but my nails never looked better or stronger. The attention I paid to my nails gave my hands something to do. I was forever perfecting the shape with a file or removing polish to put on a new color. Drove my family a little bonkers because half the time I couldn't touch things because my nails were wet (LOL!) but I always say, "Any port in a storm!" If it works, great! If it doesn't you've only spent a few bucks on polish. Good luck with this! You can do it!
~ Jeannie
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~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class!
Yours may be one of them...

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- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


joules
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   Posted 2/9/2007 9:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi guys: Thank you for your support. I am definitely going to go ahead with this next Wednesday. I have taken your advice and joined an on-line support group. They have already been a great help - In fact one of their members is from Toronto too - so that helps. I am already receiving a lot of comments like "with the amount you smoke - you won't be able to do it cold turkey - why dont you just try and cut down to start!!!" I have had about four comments like that - including (surprisingly) one from the diabetic clinic. However, I seem to have an all or nothing personality (heehee) I either smoke or I don't and I think that cutting down is fine but it is so easy to go back up again. I am resigned to a bit of weight gain. As long as I can keep those sugars under control - that is the main thing - don't ya think? Also plan to increase activity level - that may help too. After all 2007 is not just about weight loss - it's about a healthy lifestyle!!!!!!!

gelchick
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   Posted 2/10/2007 4:56 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm wishing you all the best. If you think that it has to be all-or-nothing then go for it.
 
That's how I have to be with certain favorites that make my sugar rise. Unlike Jeannie143 (at least I think it's Jeannie-correct me if I'm wrong)- who is able to eat 1/2 cup of real icecream on a cone every week- I cannot. ONe taste and I would be on an icecream binge. I had a teeny tiny mini spoonful of some gelato at Whole Foods when my daughter was here at Christmas and I have been dreaming about it ever since- my husband has to get my almonds and walnuts so I don't  have to walk past the counter!
 
Peace- and keep us posted-sandy
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joules
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   Posted 2/15/2007 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   
I am on my way!!!!!   Havent had a cigarette since 13th February at 10.00 pm.   Thats over 36 hours so far.   Think that is about half way to all the chemicals leaving your body.    I am doing this cold turkey.    That "nicky" monster in my head is screaming out to be fed, but I am going to ignore him!!!!!   I have an appointment with my gp next Thursday - at my last appointment he gave me the assignment of cutting my smoking in half and said he would then prescribe some medication to help me.   I have no idea why I had to cut in half first.   However, I bet he will be surprised when I go in and say - I havent had a cigarette for over a week!!!!!!!    In my paronoia though - I am getting on the scales every five minutes and they seem to go up a lb every time I get on them!!!!!   So worried about upsetting my weight goals and sugar goals......  Had a marginally high sugar reading this morning 7.3 - I seem to get a reading in this area about once a week to ten days.   Still nothing to worry about......  It helps me to know that I have a lot of friends here who are willing me to win this battle!!!!   Thanks for you support.

joules
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   Posted 2/15/2007 9:52 AM (GMT -7)   
I wonder if it is possible to change the title of this post to something like Smoking and Diabetes?

Jeannie143
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   Posted 2/15/2007 12:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Joules,
If you are going absolutely nuts you can always take a shower. That's the one place in the world where it's impossible to smoke so it has no smoking reminders. (LOL!) You GO GIRL!!!
~ Jeannie
Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class!
Yours may be one of them...

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."
- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


joules
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   Posted 2/17/2007 7:14 AM (GMT -7)   
well I have some good news. I havent had a cigarette since 10.00 pm on February 13th - so I am now into my fourth day. I do have a little worry though and am hoping you guys can help. My morning blood sugar reading was 8.8. This was surprising as I have had normal morning readings now for over a month! I can only put this down to stress as I am carefully monitoring food input. Have any of you had similar experience. I dont want to over-react to this as three months ago my readings were in the 18-19 range - however, am extremely disappointed!!!! It almost makes me want to go back and have a ciggy - but I wont!!!!!!

4sons
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   Posted 2/17/2007 8:18 AM (GMT -7)   
GO YOU!!!!!! I am so proud of you, Joules!!!
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


Jeannie143
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   Posted 2/18/2007 9:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Stress is a biggie when you are quitting smoking. Can you maybe take a 10 minute walk after each meal? That's five minutes away from home, the office or whatever and five minutes back... That would be a 30 minute exercise time per day and it would make your sugar go down as well as your stress... Wish I could be more helpful. Just hang in there! You can do this!
~ Jeannie
Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class!
Yours may be one of them...

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."
- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross

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