Good morning numbers, No Clue

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cooperazi
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   Posted 2/28/2007 2:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all, Well I have had some of the best morning numbers I have had since being diagnosed.  All in the 115 to 120 range, the problem no clue as to why, because the next day the number will be up again after having good bs all day long previously. Last night I was not so good.  My hubby  brought home a hamburger and some of those steak fries from a poplular rest. called Red Robin, if anyone is familiar with it.  Well, we split the hamburger, and I had some, really not many, not even what I would consider an order of the fries.  Well I paid for those fries, my after meal was 191 (I take no meds)  it was late also, we had this at nine pm.  So when I go to bed my number is 149 (it has been this many times upon going to bed)  Wake up, and low and behold I have a morning fasting of 117!  Now I know that eating steak fries for dinner is not the answer LOL, but these crazy numbers are just that, crazy.  I am taking Jeannie's advice and not worrying about the morning numbers so much, however, I am the kind of person when I balance my check book I will balance to the penny, and if I have to will spend hours finding that missing or extra penny.  So, I like answers and whys, etc.  I have some books waiting for me at the library I will be picking up today.  Was good girl did my treadmill, and going to get my nails done.  Oh, maybe my numbers were good because along with the hamburger and fries my hubby brought a just because he wanted to "gift" and it was jewelry LOL.  That is it huh girls, the jewelry, it does a body good! Have a good day.  Donna

LanieG
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   Posted 2/28/2007 8:27 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey Donna, that's the ticket!  Jewelry = happy feelings = less stress = lower blood sugar

(Wait till I tell my husband.)

Lanie yeah


cooperazi
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   Posted 3/1/2007 1:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Lanie,  You go girl!  Tell him it has to be the "real" stuff LOL.  Take care, Donna

gelchick
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   Posted 3/2/2007 2:30 PM (GMT -7)   
When my morning numbers were high, my doctor suggested that I eat a carb snack between 9 and 11 PM- 30 carbs. I did that and my AM numbers leveled out between 80 and 100. Before this, they were between 110 and 130. I still have that snack every night and my numbers are still nice and low in the AM. You might want to try having a similar snack to the one that worked for you - sandy

I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


LanieG
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   Posted 3/2/2007 3:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Sandy, would that work for someone who's controlling blood sugar with only diet and exercise? This is what I'm doing and I think a carb snack at night would drive my morning fast up. What are your thoughts about that?
Lanie

Jeannie143
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   Posted 3/3/2007 11:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Lanie,
If you have dawn phenomenon, where the body hits a low sugar level overnight and then nudges the liver to convert glucogon into glucose in readiness for the morning activities, then eating a bedtime snack will offset the higher morning numbers. Our bodies tend to do an '' all or nothing" reaction. It lets the glucose level drop quite a bit, doing the 'hunger thing', and then if it doesn't get food the brain panics and sends out a huge alarm to the liver. The brain is all about glucose NOW! and its priorities are above the rest of the body. This is where the spikes in the morning come from.

Hope this helps.
~ Jeannie
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~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class!
Yours may be one of them...

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."
- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


LanieG
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   Posted 3/3/2007 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   

Ok, I got it.  Thanks, Jeannie.

Lanie


cooperazi
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   Posted 3/3/2007 2:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi All, I have tried the carb snack, I have tried the carb with some protein (ie peanut butter) tried some low fat yogurt, tried a little popcorn, sometimes LOTS POPCORN LOL!  And it is still a hit and miss with the morning numbers.  The FEW (not yelling) mornings I had the 117 and 115 and even a 108, I have tried to repeat the pattern, only to wake up to 120 and above.  However, I have been keeping my daytime numbers within my goals 30 day before meal on my meter is 122, and after meal 30 day is 138.  I have had some real good before numbers in the last few days of in the 90's and low 100's,  so I think I am on the right track.  Until I get better about keeping a diary and going to a nutritionist with the results, I will probably drive myself crazy about the morning numbers.  So, taking Jeannie's and my doctor agreed, as long as I am keeping my average numbers within my goals, not to worry so much about the morning highs.  On a very light note, one of my VERY good mornings was followed by a NOT so good night.  The night I ate the steak fries, and had a after meal of 191, at 11 pm  I woke up with a 117!  Would love to try to convince my self I need to eat those FRIES LOL!  Take Care, Donna

gelchick
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   Posted 3/6/2007 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Devil's advocate here - those tasty fries were most likely loaded with fat. Fat slows down the absorption of glucose. That's one reason why we are advised to have a little heart healthy fat with our meals. So the night you had those fries- the glucose from the potatoes was slowly released into your blood bec of the fat. When the liver sent out it's sugar feelers- it sensed that you had enough fuel and didn't need it to send out any sugar- so your AM number was nice and low. I think the timing and the snack were the ticket. sandy

I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


cooperazi
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   Posted 3/8/2007 12:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Sandy,  Thanks, that makes sense, although not an exuse to eat french fries LOL.  I just rescued a dog for the pound a few days ago, and trying to get it acculmated to new home, and get the current king of the castle to like the new resident!  The new dog, along with wanting to give  her a good home, was hopefully going to be a companion to my male (both have been neutered and spayed)  however, at best he is indifferent at this moment and hostile at times when fighting for daddy's attention.  He behaves around me most of the time, because I think he relates to me as the alpha.  I degress, said all that to say, I have been distracted, and did not even take my morning numbers today LOL.  Hubby home, two dogs, just too much drama.  However, I would be curious, as I ate popcorn that I popped in Olive Oil last night, along with a little Chocolate (me bad)  What can I say, I was tired and in pain because of this knee, and my resistance was low.  Today is a new day, will try to be better today.   Thanks for the help, and it really does make sense to me.  Donna

gelchick
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   Posted 3/8/2007 12:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Dark chocolate is heart healthy- I eat it all the time, but I plan it as part of a meal- so don't feel bad for having it. Although the diabetes dietitian really didn't help me with formulating an eating plan, she did impress on me that every type of food is okay to have as long as you plan for it. I find that very liberating- I choose to eat foods that are healing and healthy 99% of the time, but sometimes I just have to eat something that I know isn't in my best interest. I force myself to calculate the damage before I open my mouth- sometimes I change my mind about it, sometimes not. At Christmas, my daughter and I made 17 different types of cookies (none of them diabetic or heart healthy) and I successfully sampled every one without any sugar spikes. I didn't feel left out and I didn't let myself feel like it was forbidden or bad- I was able to walk away happy- I think that's key for me- I can have it, but do I really need it?
 
Good luck with your dogs- my dad used to breed Springers and Labs and I remember the conflicts when a new male was brought around- I'm sure they'll come to love one another over time :-)   and you'll be getting a lot of good exercise chasing after them. Now the husband- that's a different story- I've been trying to train mine for close to 33 years now and he still can't tell the difference between a sock and a soaking wet towel ....grrr   sandy
I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


Jeannie143
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   Posted 3/8/2007 6:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Sandy,
I love your cookie story. That's true eating with moderation!
~ Jeannie
Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class!
Yours may be one of them...

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."
- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


gelchick
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   Posted 3/9/2007 11:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Jeannie-
 
I know from your posts that you also enjoy your 'must-haves' in moderation. I really was satisfied and I never would have thought it possible. And I was happy! Now my wonderful husband brought home 5 boxes of Girl Scout cookies last week- and was amazed that I was uninterested in eating even one of them. I thought about it for a bit- and realized that I have eaten Thin Mints every year since I was a Brownie in 2nd grade (like 1960!) and if I closed my eyes- I could actually remember how they taste- and not as good as my snickerdoodles either- I guess I have turned a corner of sorts. Now I lust after fresh red raspberries- go figure. sandy
I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett

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