Newly diagnosed and trying to get used to all of this

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tangerine bear
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   Posted 4/13/2007 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
 
I was diagnosed a week and a half ago. I went to the doc because I had pretty much figured out by myself that I had developed diabetes. I had all the symptoms, thirst, frequent urination, sudden weight loss (which any woman would normally say HURRAY about.. but I knew it was strange), and last blurry vision. My fasting blood sugar at the doctor's office was 213, so that was that... I have it. So she ran the tests... the results came back terrible... A1c=9.2. My cholestrol has been high for years, and we have been trying to control it with (low fat, too many carbs) diet because of past problems with liver readings from taking Zocor. Well, now with the diabetes, I'm going to have to chance it and go back on a cholesterol med. The biggest worry to me was my triglycerides = 675!!!!!!! I looked on the internet and read that could be caused by untreated diabetes. My past readings had never been anywhere near that high! Another worry I'm having is my vision, it's gone downhill very fast. It started out to be blurry for distance, but now I'm having to use my reading glasses for looking at the computer, which I have never had to do. The doc put me on samples of Avandamet 4/1000 once a day in the morning. My fasting BS has varied a lot, but is down to 110 - 120 most mornings and a little lower in the evening. I have been eating very low carbs and sugars since this started, and I don't want anything to do with the ADA recommended diet, as I think the high carbs for years is what set this off. I go back to the doc for a 2 week follow up on Tuesday to see if she wants to adjust the med. Any suggestions, comments or advice would be appreciated very much! :-)
 
Bear
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notime4me
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   Posted 4/13/2007 9:38 AM (GMT -7)   
When my daughter was first dignosed she was having problems with her vision, much as you described. Once blood sugars settled down into normal range her vision settled down.
I hope you are able to get everything under control.

AMM
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   Posted 4/13/2007 12:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I know someone who completely lost her vision. Her a1c was over 15. She worked very hard at controlling her diabetes. Her a1c is now 5.9 and she can see. She has to wear glasses now but just a fairly average prescription.
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/13/2007 12:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Bear,
My suggestions:

-Start adding more of the 'good' fats to your diet like peanut butter, avocado, olive oil whenever possible. They help with vitamin absorption, skin and nerve health and also help you feel satisfied at the end of the meal.

-Make an appt with an opthamologist and find out exactly what is going on with your eyes. It could be anything from diabetic retinopathy to chronic dry eye. My eyes were dry from medication side effects and it affected my vision differently from high sugars. We all need an annual full eye exam from a qualified opthamologist once a year to guard against blindness caused by diabetes.

-If your health allows it walk 30 minutes a day. This lowers insulin resistance in the same manner as the metformin you are on. If weather or safety is a problem you can do stairs, dance, swimming, anything to use your large leg muscles where the effort will produce the best results.

-Come back and yak with us on a regular basis. I find I follow my food plan better when I'm in touch with other diabetics. Good luck with this.
~ Jeannie
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~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class!
Yours may be one of them...

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tangerine bear
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   Posted 4/13/2007 4:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all for your replies, Jeannie, AMM, and notime4me,
 
This is all so new to me. I am being VERY strict with my diet, with VERY low carbs and sugars, and I have been reading posts here before I posted. I am glad to see others think a high carb diet is not such a great idea, as that's what I was thinking already. I guess I will make an appointment with an opthomologist soon. I just had my eyes checked a couple of months ago, but everything's changed now! I wear contact, and I hope I don't have to stop wearing them.
 
Another struggle right now is WHY am I not losing weight??? I have gone from eating whatever to this low carb, low sugar diet, and I gained back 2 of the pounds I lost when the diabetes kicked in. Is it really hard to lose weight once you get Diabetes? I think I should be LOSING weight, but no such luck (of course it's only been a week or so since I started, but I want to start losing.) I know I need to start an exercise regimen, but I am so weak and tired right now... I don't want to do anything.
 
Also... I seem to have been very forgetful, especially when my sugar was out of control. Is that the norm? It's going to take me a while to get used to all this.
 
P.S. Just took my sugar... it was 112... is that pretty good for a late afternoon reading?
 
Bear :-)
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/16/2007 12:34 PM (GMT -7)   
That's a great reading! One thing I'm wondering is if you have had your nutrition class with your dietician yet. Most insurance companies cover this and it would really help you with the fatigue thing. You should start a detailed journal of foods eaten, blood sugar readings, meds and exercise as well as how you feed every few hours. This information will allow your nutritionist to generate a food plan tailored to your needs for energy. Hope this helps.
~ Jeannie
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~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class!
Yours may be one of them...

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."
- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


tangerine bear
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   Posted 4/16/2007 1:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jeannie,

I haven't gone to the class yet. I got a referral the day I was diagnosed and now it's misplaced.... we were having company for Easter and put things away, and now can't find it. I'm going to ask for another copy tomorrow. I have gotten a lot of good info here just reading what others are doing, and I think it's working because my blood sugar readings have been pretty good. I go to the doc tomorrow AM for a follow up... I'm not sure what she's going to do. I still don't understand why my 1st reading in the morning is always the highest one of the day. So far it seems like this is going to be a hard thing to deal with but we have to do it... nice to have others to talk with about it. Thanks,

bear :)
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 4/16/2007 8:24 PM (GMT -7)   
That morning one is called the dawn phenomenon. Normally in your sleep cycle your blood sugar will rise in the morning to prepare you for waking. But if you have been restricting carbs all day long and don't have a night time snack (graham cracker with peanut butter is my favorite) of carb with some protein and a bit of fat then your body has to play catch-up. During the night your sugar slowly drops as you use up whatever is in your intestines. Your brain runs on pure glucose. Its needs supercede all other needs for glucose. When it feels that you are running out it puts out an alarm to your liver to take some glycogen (a kind of stored super glucose) and convert it quickly to glucose and dump it into the blood stream. This over-reaction is what causes the high morning readings.

Your nutrition class will make it clear that steady readings, without a bunch of highs or any shakey lows is the way to go. That's why they will explain frequent smaller meals so you never get hungry and your brain doesn't go into overdrive and do the glycogen/panic thing. Also, if your body is used to higher numbers it can over react to normal ones, thinking it's starving when it just needs to get accustomed to more normal readings.

You can't learn all this stuff overnight so just take it one day at a time. Be sure to get someone to go to the classes with you if you can. It makes it so much easier if there is another set of ears to collect the information with you. They will give you a lot of stuff in a short time but it is so worth it! Take care.
~ Jeannie
Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class!
Yours may be one of them...

"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."
- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


fergusc
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   Posted 4/18/2007 6:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Bear,
I think you're doing exactly the right thing by cutting back on the carbs. From personal experience, a diet based on starchy carbs makes good blood sugar control almost impossible. Good control to near normal levels is the name of the game here after all.
Not only will your approach make normal blood glucose much more achievable, you'll avoid the highs and lows associated with high carb consumption, your triglcerides will improve significantly (high levels are associated with high blood sugar), as will weight and blood pressure. It won't happen overnight but it will in time.
Hang on in there!
 
All the best,
 
fergusc

tangerine bear
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   Posted 4/18/2007 8:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Jeannie and fergusc,

I had my appointment yesterday and my doctor was very pleased with my blood sugar levels. She put me on fish oil capsules and zetia (samples) to try to help out the cholesterol. The nutrition class isn't going to happen for me... $500. I'm wondering if there is any other help out there... video classes or something??
"It's a jungle out there....." 
Theme song from "Monk" by Randy Newman
 
"Turn this car around... I'm goin' back..."
Tom Petty
 
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LanieG
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   Posted 4/18/2007 9:39 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Bear, personally I think you will learn everything you need to know as you read back through all the posts on this forum.  I found more up-to-date and relevant information from everyone here at HW than I did attending the nutrition class here in town.  Of course, there may be wonderful classes elsewhere, but it seems in the classes I attended they were stuck on the ADA guidelines, so I don't attend them anymore.  I've read everything I can online and in several publications.  I've been controlling my blood sugar with only diet and exercise successfully so far and I can thank all the people who post on this forum for that because I've learned so much from them.  Everyone is at a different stage of this disease, some on meds, some not, some type 1, some type 2 and so on, so naturally you'll find variants of diets, too, but you'll find what works for you I'm sure.  And when you need answers, you will get them from people who are going through or have gone through exactly what you are going through now.  When I changed what I ate everyday, I saw my blood sugar drop within days.  Good luck and ask questions!  There's always someone who knows what you're going through.

Lanie :-)

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