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Dead Man walking
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   Posted 5/12/2007 9:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Howdy Folks, I found out about this high sugar of mine a couple months ago. My numbers back then were often in mid 200's everynight. Sometimes higher. I had a few mid 300's as well
 
In the last few weeks, I have noticed that they are generally much lower, say, ussually in the mid 100's..
 
What does this mean?  I am still overeating,  especially at night, and I am not exercising more than before.   about the only difference that I might  see is that I MIGHT of eliminated a little more the carbs, but not much.
 
When diabetics first find out about their hyperglycemia, and then they try to eliminate sugar and cut way back on carbs, does this happen?
 
What do you think might be going on here?
 
Thanks in advance for all your help. :)

cooperazi
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   Posted 5/12/2007 10:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,  I do not have an answer for you, as I am really new on the learning curve myself.  However, I can understand where you are at.    You are new, you are trying to see what you can get away with eating and still have some control over your numbers.  Why do I know that?  Because I am pretty much in the same place.   However, the more I test, the more of the realty I get.  That does not mean I am in full compliance yet.  It is a daily learning journey.  There are some things I really have been used to eating all my life, and I still want to eat them.  I am finding I can have some of those things, still in moderation, but I am beginning to SLOWLY learn I could be walking a very tight rope.  I do not know if I can successfully do without some foods sometimes, but when I see a high number in the 190-200 range after eating certain foods, it sure makes me think twice when I go to have the same food again, or the same combination.  So then I will eliminate something, or cut the portion.    Likewise, when I do make good choices, and my numbers are good, it encourages me to continue with those choices.  Just a little pep talk from a fellow diabetic in semi denial LOL,  Donna

SnowyLynne
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   Posted 5/13/2007 1:20 AM (GMT -7)   
80 to 120 is normal range.Eat less drink lots of water..............
SnowyLynne


LanieG
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   Posted 5/13/2007 6:18 AM (GMT -7)   

DMW, I'm glad your numbers have been lower, so there's something you're doing right.  Read back over the past posts in this forum about how those of us controlling the blood sugar numbers by diet and exercise are doing this.  Several of us here don't take any meds for diabetes and have been pretty successful by cutting down or eliminating the carbs, eating more vegetables and exercising regularly.  I've cut my fasting numbers dramatically since the fall by doing exactly that.  Even overeating the "good" food will result in high fasting numbers.  The key is you have to keep a record of what you eat and then adjust the diet accordingly - and, again, read back over the past entries here and you'll most likely have better blood sugar readings now. 

Lanie


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Dead Man walking
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   Posted 5/14/2007 7:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Snowy, I have never heard that drinking water helps lower BS. I learn something new everyday on this board.
 
Any other opinions on this (drinking water) subject?

quatlox
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   Posted 5/14/2007 12:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Water, the great diluter.

Yes, and move it through your kidneys and out of your body. Water will help as it will dilute the sugar in your blood and then move it out of your body with the water when you pee.

Bob

Dead Man walking
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   Posted 5/14/2007 12:59 PM (GMT -7)   
And I suppose that beer doesnt count?  :)   Even though it makes you go to the bath room a lot?

Jeannie143
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   Posted 5/14/2007 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Dead,
Since your body is made up of over 70% water it makes sense to keep a ready supply available for your body's use. Water is what keeps your kidney's functioning and helps them do their job of filtering waste and toxins from the blood stream more efficiently. It also keeps your blood diluted so the nutrients and sugars are transported more easily.

Dehydration can lead to headache, loss of concentration, constipation, disorientation and a host of other 'shuns'. Drinking too much water can also be dangerous. Two quarts a day should be sufficient in most regular situations. Depending upon your 'thirst' factor is not always adequate. Water should be part of your day at least every waking hour. A steady supply of two to four ounces is great and may also include some coffee, tea, sugar free soft drinks, sugar free Kool aid and small amounts of juice along with the water to make up your two quart total.

about the juice- It is better for diabetics to eat whole fruit instead of juice because of the higher fiber content, lower glycemic index and the fact that the sugars from the fruit enter your blood stream much more slowly than the 'dump' that happens from a small glass of juice. ALSO IMPORTANT!!! A serving of juice is 1/2 cup. That is 4 oz. That is 8 Tablespoons of juice..... NOT A WHOLE DRINKING GLASS FULL OF JUICE! Just want to be clear on that.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
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AMM
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   Posted 5/14/2007 2:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Drinking water will also help you to not feel hungry. Like they say, we often mistake thirst for hunger.
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gelchick
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   Posted 5/15/2007 8:28 AM (GMT -7)   

Dead-

I'm all for the beer yeah

I don't find that water lowers my BG, no matter how much I drink, but I do drink a lot of water. My doctor told me to drink 1/2 of my body weight ( for example 100 pounds -drink 50 ounces) every day and add 8 ounces or more above that for every 1/2 hour of exercise + 2 extra cups for every cup of coffee. My kidney function is excellent- my doctor raves! And once your body gets used to being properly hydrated, you're not in the johnnie every 10 minutes.

Maybe the same would happen with the beer????joking-not encouraging alcohol abuse in any way here -sandy


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Jeannie143
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   Posted 5/15/2007 10:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Alcohol has negative results with diabetics. Kills liver function, screws up blood glucose, interacts badly with medications, leads to bad food choices, and basically is something that we need to avoid.Some peeps have permission from their doctors for a small glass of red wine with dinner each night but this is the exception.

For myself, when I started insulin is when I grew up and faced reality. I can't have it both ways... and I have the perfect example of my Uncle who just died of complications of diabetes last month. He was an alcoholic.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
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ericsmom
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   Posted 5/15/2007 11:54 AM (GMT -7)   
LOL DMW..you are so cute!!
 
Jeannie is right though, I know of 2 diabetic men in their early 40's lost their lives, just because they just couldnt give up their alcohol.
 
In canada, well..ontario anyway...when you are dx with diabetes, they send you to a clinic for 2 weeks of classes, educating you on your new life eyes    We were told that the occasional drink was ok...depending on what it was...like rum and coke were a definate no no, but they really did mean occasional.  Like for men, it was 3 bottles a week, us girls..one, or 2 glasses of "0" wine, which was ok by me cuz thats the only wine I wud have anyway..very dry.
But it is very very rare now that I drink, its just not worth what can happen...as I have seen it first hand.
 
Stick to water, and and the odd diet drink...and I dont know about non-alcoholic beer, if it's allowed or not, you cud check that out maybe.
That was 3 bottles of BEER, **** not those 26 or 40 ouncers tongue   
 
good luck,
Diane  


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Post Edited (ericsmom) : 5/15/2007 4:14:51 PM (GMT-6)


LanieG
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   Posted 5/15/2007 2:20 PM (GMT -7)   

If you are not taking medication for diabetes, a glass of wine or two with a meal is fine according to my doctor.  You have to keep in mind that alcohol may react with any medication anyway and should be avoided then.  I would think that this is not an encouragement to abuse alcohol or to get drunk.  Fortified wines like sherry, port, liqueurs or any alcoholic drinks with fruit juices or sugary additives will drive the blood sugar up and should be avoided if the drinker has problems with blood sugar levels.  If you're taking meds for diabetes, alcohol can cause blood sugar to plummet, so diabetics should either avoid alcohol entirely or consult with their doctor. 

Lanie


"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise


gelchick
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   Posted 5/16/2007 10:03 AM (GMT -7)   
I think that Dead was saying the beer thing in a joking sort of way. I'm sorry if I compounded the issue by sending it right back at him! My doctor told me it was okay to have a diet coke and rum or beer or wine once or twice a wekk. sandy
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LanieG
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   Posted 5/16/2007 10:34 AM (GMT -7)   

You're right, Sandy.  And if you're on medication, you would have to test and be sure your blood sugar level isn't going too low and probably eat something with the drink.  I'm not on any meds but I have read that blood sugar levels could go too low if someone on meds drank alcohol.  Maybe it's also too much demand on the liver - but I'm only supposing that.  I don't think any of us were encouraging binge drinking in any way.  So, I do have a glass or even two of wine with dinner to no ill effect.  And actually I'm expecting my lab results today from my annual physical that I took Monday.  This is an excruciating wait.

Lanie


"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise


Dead Man walking
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   Posted 5/16/2007 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Actually I am not a big fan of beer.  
 
I put a email reminder which alerts me in my calander everyday to drink more water. It's been working for me, by reminding me to drink more water.
 
I heard that Scotch is recommended by the Atkins folks. Isn't Atkins recommendations generally good for people with High sugar blood sugar?
 
I would think that alcohols like vodka or light rum would be good. They don't seem to have any added sugar. But I could be wrong as hell on that one. LOL
 
Obviously the mixers such as cranberry or cola are a definite no no.  
 
Any one heard of Scotch being the best for high BS problems?
 
I googled it, but didnt find anything

AMM
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   Posted 5/17/2007 3:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Atkins diet is way too high in fats for a diabetic. In my opinion, the South Beach diet is closer to the way a diabetic should eat. Alcohol can have an effect of lowering blood sugar and leading to a hypo. Also while drinking it is more difficult to recognize the symptoms of a hypo. My first two marriages were to alchoholics, so I just don't want the stuff anywhere around me. I'm not really sure what alchohol would be a better choice. Red wine does have the antioxidants. I think if you are going to drink it is important to do it with food and to monitor your blood sugar more frequently. It would also be a good idea to have someone with you (who wouldn't be drunk) that understands your diabetes.
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LanieG
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   Posted 5/17/2007 6:33 AM (GMT -7)   

Deadman, alcohol drinks, especially beers and mixed drinks, have a lot of calories in addition to their alcohol percentage which is not healthy to consume in large doses.  I think that's a concern here, too much emphasis on drinking.  Least of all, consider the cost.  If money is tight, why spend it on alcohol when you should be buying fresh vegetables and chicken for your nutrition?  There are carbs in beers and most mixed drinks, so they may raise blood sugar.  Pure alcohol itself may drop blood sugar and interfers with some meds, especially diabetes medication - and this has been mentioned a couple of times.  So, the bottom line is to make wise decisions.  I think AMM is right about the South Beach diet being a good one to follow.  You can read about it online and follow its guidelines, no need to buy the book. 

Lanie


"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise

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