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4sons
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   Posted 6/10/2007 8:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Ok ... today is my first non-rushed day of summer vacation so I began my breakfast experiments. Who out there can eat steel cut oats? I can't. nono I tried them this morning and am at 140 2 hours later. Scratch THAT one off the list!!!

My next attempt? A fellow Type 2's quiche ....
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Ruth/4sons

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Jeannie143
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   Posted 6/10/2007 10:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Ruth,
Oats are one of the best grains you can eat. How much did you consume? For myself, when I have oatmeal I eat 1/4 cup raw in 1/2 cup hot water, boiled in the microwave for 2 minutes. (with a plate under the bowl for boilover) and I add to this one tablespoon of peanut butter for my monounsaturated fat. This breakfast is a tad low in protein but I make up for that at lunch. It really sticks to my ribs (as my gramma would say) and the fat from the peanut butter slows the glycemic load so the carbs don't dump quite so quickly. Try adding peanut butter and cutting back on the amount. I'll bet you can still have your oatmeal. And if you don't like peanut butter in it, you could just eat it on the side?

If at all possible you should try to work those oats back into your diet for their cholesterol lowering effect.

Just thought of something... the steel cut oats, are those the ones you have to soak overnight?
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4sons
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   Posted 6/10/2007 10:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi ... I put 1/4 cup raw steel cut oats in 1 cup water and boiled for 20 minutes (these were McCann's Irish Steel Cut Oats). At 140 two hours later they're a definite "no" on my list! The 1/4 cup was considered a single serving ... I suppose I could try half that amount but then I'd be getting pretty hungry pretty soon!
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Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


judy3
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   Posted 6/10/2007 10:41 AM (GMT -7)   

HI 4sons

I tried 7 grain cereal and it worked for me, it was pretty good too! I usually have squash with american cheese or salad with eggs, cottage cheese w/sour cream, but wanted something to eat! What meds are you on?


LanieG
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   Posted 6/10/2007 11:01 AM (GMT -7)   
I have also tried the steel cut oats because I'd read that they are "slow acting" since they're not over processed.  However, I also had very high postprandial readings, so I don't try to eat them anymore.  I really can't see it as a benefit if it drives my readings up to 165 (in my case) with or without nuts added for protein.  That defeats the challenge of keeping normal blood sugars entirely, and why have to live with 165 just to have oatmeal?  I'm relying totally on diet and exercise and don't take meds to deal with high readings.  So, even though oatmeal is wonderful for some people, I cannot eat it, but my cholesterol results are much better now than in the past since I have an extremely low carb diet.  I'm beginning to believe what Richard Bernstein has in his book about diabetes, that it's the carbs that create the high cholesterol, not the red meats or butter.  In any case, I know what I've been eating and how my numbers have come down, so the oatmeal is out!  I get lots of fiber from vegetables.  For breakfast, I still eat omelets similar to those in the South Beach diet, or a piece of chicken/fish/meat and vegetables leftover from dinner.  Whatever works to keep the numbers in control is what you have to do.
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AMM
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   Posted 6/10/2007 12:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I do well with regular oatmeal, but have higher readings with steel cut oats. I know, I had heard that the steel cut oats were better at keeping the sugars level but I didn't have that experience either. I eat oatmeal for breakfast, but I must admit.....I hate oatmeal! I have tried dressing it up and I still hate it. However, regular oatmeal seems to be what keeps my blood sugar levels most even, so I eat it. I just don't enjoy it.
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gelchick
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   Posted 6/10/2007 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
140 is in the 2-hr post prandial acceptable range by Joslin, ACE, and ADA standards. 
What are you at 1 hour? 3 hours?
I am finding that I am a slow digester- that I don't have a fast rise at 1 hour. I am on the high side at 2 hours, but by 3 hours I drop right down to baseline. Steel cut oats give me a higher rise than long cooking regular oats. 
I cook 1/4 cup with 3/4 cup of water- boil, turn the heat on low and forget about it until I am ready to eat.  I mix the oatmeal with a bit of butter, and add it to handful of berries and a portion of  low-carb greek style yogurt flavored with a dash of vanilla, a bit of cinamon, and a few drops of liquid Stevia. It doessn't look pretty- but it tastes good to me. It is guaranteed to drop my bg at the 3-hour mark. Often as much as 15 -20 points. (pre- meal high 90's, post meal low 80's).
 
I just finished reading Bernstein's new version- I am inclined to agree with about 95% of what he writes, but if I stick to his 6/12/12 rule for carbs- my numbers always go up not down. I must make and use my own insulin better than he does. I've adjusted to 30-40 for breakfast/ 12-20 for lunch and dinner. Oats, barley, and most beans don't drive my BG up- so I eat them along with leafy greens and non-starchy veggies. I fully agree with his view on meats and fats ( although I don't eat meats). There is such a strong correlation between the low fat, high carb induced rise in obesity that it is hard to deny it. I have freinds who have lived the Atkins lifestyle since the 70's and they are hale and healthy (thin, not diabetic, no kidney problems, no heart problems, normal BP- and in their 60's!).
sandy
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4sons
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   Posted 6/11/2007 11:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Ok. Egg salad ... this is a keeper.
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


4sons
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   Posted 6/11/2007 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   
judy3 said...
HI 4sons

I tried 7 grain cereal and it worked for me, it was pretty good too! I usually have squash with american cheese or salad with eggs, cottage cheese w/sour cream, but wanted something to eat! What meds are you on?


Hi Judy!

I rely on diet and exercise alone ... and I'll tell you, it's HARD for me to keep my numbers where they need to be 100% of the time! I try not to even have "acceptable" numbers when I can because I know there is so much I CAN'T control (like stress and illness). If I can keep my blood glucose meter happy, happy, HAPPY then I don't worry so much by things outside my realm of control.

The squash with cheese is a GREAT suggestion and next time I'm at the market I'll check out the cottage cheese suggestion. I'd LOVE that mixed with some home made salsa!!
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


gelchick
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   Posted 6/12/2007 7:17 AM (GMT -7)   

Ruth

Be sure to watch the carbs in the cottage cheese- it is more like milk in that regard than hard cheese (lots more carbs per portion). I learned that the hard way - when I ate at a salad bar and used the cottage cheese as my protein source. sandy


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4sons
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   Posted 6/12/2007 8:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Sandy ...

I got some cottage cheese at the grocery store this morning. It says 1/4 cup has 6 grams of carbs. How much do you eat at a time? I'm thinking of mixing it with some kick butt salsa.
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise

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