Tempted by the Dark Side

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fergusc
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   Posted 6/14/2007 6:43 AM (GMT -7)   
7 years ago, before I went low-carb and in-control, I literally went for YEARS without ever testing my blood sugars. I had 1 pack of test strips which I kept for so long they went out of production and started to appreciate in value. It seems hard to believe now.
On the other hand I would never obsess about my numbers, worry about what and when to eat, or allow thinking about diabetes to get in the way of living life. Although I became overweight and unfit, I was unburdened by the control-freakery that came with the regular testing.
Now my numbers are great, I thankfully have no complications after 26 years of Type 1, I'm fit and healthy. But there are times I wish I could unburden myself of the constant control. Even for a wee while. The distinction between controlling diabetes and letting it control me seems a little blurry sometimes.
Does anyone else feel tempted by the dark side - just to let it hang out for a while?
 
fergusc

4sons
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   Posted 6/14/2007 7:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Your titles are so hysterical. First it "Fresh Blood" and now it's "Tempted by the Dark Side." Am I detecting a seamy theme? LOL

I have to admit I go in spurts. The testing makes me one high anxiety chick, I'll tell you. I literally close my eyes when I'm waiting for the count down until the meter reads my current fate. But when I run out of test strips I panic then, too!

Ok. Who else is totally high anxiety about all this?
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


quatlox
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   Posted 6/14/2007 7:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Come to the Dark Side.

We have cookies!

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

Bob

4sons
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   Posted 6/14/2007 8:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Pfffffft ... gonna have to do better than that, Bob. I don't waft that easily anymore.

What KIND of cookies???!!

Get graphic.
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


AMM
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   Posted 6/14/2007 9:03 AM (GMT -7)   
I think you may be my diabetes twin. If I didn't know better I would have thought I had written your post. I did the exact same things and sometimes I do want to just ignore it all, but then when my results are good I feel so good about the hard work I have put into it. Yeah, the dark side still calls my name and I hear it once in awhile, but I am not going to reply.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.  Shouldn't I be invincible by now?


gelchick
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   Posted 6/14/2007 9:13 AM (GMT -7)   

OMG- You guys crack me up! and I need that today.  I am tempted every, single day to have a bit of this or a bit of that.  I have to rein it in or I'd quickly become a sugar junky again.

I used to obsess over my daily readings- sometimes taking 2 or 3 tests from a single stab to get the best number to write down- but I've forced myself to look at the trends- am I trending up? Down? Staying the same? The meter is not 100% accurate, so the number is not going to be 100% accurate anyhow.  If I see 107 in the AM, instead of going nuts, I remind myself that it could really be 85.6,  128.4 - or anything in between and that from day to day the machine will have variable accuracy. It helps keep me sane. I've cut back to 4 tests/day - no more- unless I'm testing a new food or food combo and that helps too.

I think I'm vigilant, but not neurotic any more.

yeah sandy

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tangerine bear
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   Posted 6/14/2007 12:04 PM (GMT -7)   
:-) When I saw the title of this post, I thought of only one thing....
CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-)
I am new to all this, and I have anxiety disorder anyway, but yeah, I was pretty OCD about it at first. I called the on-call doctor one night because I thought my reading was too low.... he laughed and told me to STOP TESTING SO MUCH .... LOL. Not that his opinion did any good... besides, he's not my REAL doc! Yeah, I'd like to come to the dark side and forget all this... but then again, blurry vision wasn't much fun.

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4sons
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   Posted 6/14/2007 12:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi bear ...

Here's an anxious bear hug from me to you!

I hate to tell you this ... but I LOVE that you called your doctor about your reading. I would sooooooo do that if I was panicky!! In fact, when I had high readings for two mornings in a row I DID call the weekend on call doctor!

He wasn't worried ... but I sure was!!
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


Jeannie143
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   Posted 6/14/2007 6:46 PM (GMT -7)   
I think there is a little bit of kid in all of us that wants to be able to eat what we want when we want. I remember being able to eat a pile of mashed potatoes with dinner... (sigh!) and I was as skinny as a stick. There were six children in my family and my mom was 1/2 Irish so I had 14 or so potatoes to peel each afternoon when I got home from school. You can grow a lot of kids on potatoes... and macaroni and rice... But then I stopped growing and I hadn't learned how to eat correctly. So I've been on and off diets for over 35 years...

Now I'm very good for a few days and have a small splurge on Saturday night, (Like the crust on my pizza! Whoopee!) But about once a month or so I do something really naughty like go to one of our wonderful Chinese Buffets and have lots of stir fried veggetables and spicy meats... and I go way overboard on portions of dumplings and the like... The next morning I'm absolutely gumpy from too much of a lot of good things but I don't do a reading until the evening. No point... I refuse to feel guilty about eating good healthy food even if I've had a bit too much of it... And I really do limit the lo mein noodles... sort of... LOL! eyes
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Phishbowl
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   Posted 6/15/2007 9:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Give in to the dark side? Yup, regularly. It's the Ying to all the Yang I'm doing with trying to manage my Diabetes. I do my best to feed my body the best I can and I also try to feed my mind and soul the best I can. That, to me, means recognizing that there are some small things that can satisfy the mind/soul that don't require a huge payment. Like chocolate - I eat it almost every day but, 1 or 2 squares of the thin dark Lindt. Or french fries... I just love 'em with salt and vinegar. I am one of those Type A personalities but, I don't let a little straying once in a while ruin my day.

Cheers
Kris
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- Phishbowl (Type 1 since Jan'05 - Levemir, NovoRapid)
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Cali Jules
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   Posted 6/15/2007 9:41 AM (GMT -7)   
If you live in the light for too long, you'll just get burned! :]

I LOVE the dark side. Tends to feel good, comfy and safe. But if I stay in there too long I grow mold.

So now I try to balance. It isn't about being good or bad... just about being realistic.

Good topic. Makes me smile. Makes me "see" a bunch of diabetics jumping up and down around a bonfire under a full moon.... roasting marshmellows.

Hugs

Julia
Ulcerative colitis - Remission May 29, 2007, FM, AS, Type 2 Diabetes, PCOS, sober since 6/92, PTSD, Chronic Urticaria, Hypertension, High Cholesterol, GERD and a partridge in a pair tree.

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Phishbowl
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   Posted 6/15/2007 11:35 AM (GMT -7)   
LOL! Thanks for that visual, Cali. Marshmallows...good choice LOL :-)

Kris
Cheers,
- Phishbowl (Type 1 since Jan'05 - Levemir, NovoRapid)
"What's Not Measured Is Not Managed"

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows"-Epictetus


4sons
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   Posted 6/15/2007 1:45 PM (GMT -7)   
OMG, Kris ... I LOVE french fries with salt and vinegar. I once heard that vinegar negated the starch. NO KIDDING. Is that some sort of diabetic urban legend?

I love how playful people are being the last couple of days. It's fun to see out come out!!!

Lanie ... have you tried that Lindt chocolate? Sandy, do you eat it, too???

I need to try this. Maybe for my breakfast experiments ...

Can you imagine this!? A square of that chocolate, a strawberry, and WHIPPED CREAM! OMG, who says we can't have our dessert and eat it too???

Cake? Ok. That's off limits.
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


LanieG
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   Posted 6/16/2007 2:01 PM (GMT -7)   
I had some dark chocolate before but not the Lindt. The one I had was made in Spain but I can't remember the name. Anyway, it was 'sugar-free' but it had maltilol (spelling?) and it drove my blood sugar up even though I only had 2 squares as opposed to the 4-square serving. However, I ate it as a "snack" with nothing else. Maybe if I'd eaten it after dinner, it would have been ok. For example, last night, I had 2 scoops of real vanilla ice cream after dinner (my daughter's birthday) and this morning my fasting number was 90 - so I was pretty pleased about that.

about the dark side: oh boy, it's still out there for me and I've succumbed like a spineless twit a few times. The only difference between now and years ago, though, is that I quickly get back on track and not throw my hands up and give up. The next day I'm back to doing things right.

Lanie
"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise
following low/no carb diet, no meds


fergusc
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   Posted 6/16/2007 2:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm so very glad to be in the company of so many weak willed sinners. Shame on you all! Now I feel like I truly belong.
My Achilles heel has always been chocolate, and cheesecake - combined when possible. I could treat myself to a slice of cheesecake after I'd been running at the weekend, and I'd always have a bar of chocolate in the fridge which I'd visit after dinner most evenings. Oddly enough it would always be a little smaller than the previous evening. Funny that.
Here's the really funny thing though. A couple of months ago I decided these 'treats' had become a crutch. I'd eat the same amounts of the same things at the same times yada, yada, yada. The treat had become a habit and I thought I'd see if I could break it. So I stopped, just like that.
Now I was sure I'd miss the sweeties terribly, but three months on I don't. No, really, I don't! Now I wouldn't thank you for the chocolate and the cheesecake scarcely gets a second glance. I never envisaged this at all. It feels strangely liberating - as if I no longer have to deny myself sweet treats because they genuinely don't have the same allure any more.
Now I need some new bad habits because pretty soon I'll have nothing left to give up. Any suggestions?
 
All the best everyone,
 
fergusc

gelchick
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   Posted 6/16/2007 2:49 PM (GMT -7)   

Malitol is evil- it belongs on the dark side! If a 'diet' item has 18 grams of malitol- it's the same as eating 9 grams of sugar, and if it's low fat to boot- it's like mainlining the white stuff. It's a dirty little trick that gets played on unsuspecting diabetics.

Eat the Lindt chocolate- I buy the 70% dark in a little bag- the squares are individually wrapped inside. Each square has only 2 carbs and the chocolate is so good. I like the fact that they are wrapped- it makes me stop and think about if I truly want to have a second square- and I don't feel compelled to overeat them because the wrapper might not protect them (lol- like regular chocolate bars).  One square is just the right amount to shave over a yogurt parfait- I say bring on the strawberry and the whipped cream! 

sandy


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Phishbowl
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   Posted 6/21/2007 4:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey, Fellow Chocolate Lovers... You have to try Lindt's new line of chocolates. They're offering cocoa (chocolate) from specific locations around the globe. I just tried their dark chocolates: Chile (65%), Madagascar (75%), and Equador (85%) and they are just fantastic! It's amazing how different cocoa taste depending where it's grown. There's also a company (can't remember the name) that offer a whole product line of chocolate made with cocoa from around the world. They're eco-friendly and their company vision is to see those small-guy cocoa growers profit from thier quality goods. The really good, dark stuff has few ingredients and is only 1-2 grams carbs/square.

Ruth - I heard about (and just read up on) the "vinegar diet" and while some claim evidence to it's effectiveness, there are no conclusive studies. That "diet" is also particular to cinder vinegar (which I don't use). Personally, I love the taste of white vinegar on (fried) potatoes, especially on them french fries! It always makes me chuckle when I'm in the States and ask for white vinegar. The horrified look on the server's face while he's asking me what on earth I'd want it for,... is always priceless (LOL) :-) My old work colleagues from the US used to tell me they only use white vinegar for cleaning. Hey, maybe the waiter thought I was about to pull out a mop and start cleaning or something - still makes me laugh. I learned to bring a bunch of the fast-food vinegar packages with me.

Cheers,
Kris
Cheers,
- Phishbowl (Type 1 since Jan'05 - Levemir, NovoRapid)
"What's Not Measured Is Not Managed"

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows"-Epictetus


Jeannie143
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   Posted 6/21/2007 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Cider vinegar is high in malic acic and that is beneficial to us diabetics for some reason but I can't remember right now.. Need to find time to do a websearch... but busyyyyyy!

I love this thread.... Chocolate.. What is really cool is you should taste and smell the different vanillas from all over the globe. Even more different than chocolate!

Back to work.
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~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class! Yours may be one of them...
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- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross

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