Depression and Diabetes????

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tangerine bear
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   Posted 7/8/2007 6:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Little confession here... I have suffered from major depression since '05. I am and have been in therapy and on meds for about 2-1/2 years. My therapist mentioned last Friday that diabetics have a much higher incidence of depression than the general public, and that I was possibly predisposed to it. I am curious if anyone else here has had any problems with depression. I checked online, and sure enough.... I found that diabetics have a 3-4 times the rate of depression compared to the general public, and many studies are now finding that the depression came BEFORE diagnosis, whereas it used to be thought that it was a "side effect". Does anyone else here have a history of depression... not trying to pry... just curious if I'm the only one.
 
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Jeannie143
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   Posted 7/9/2007 7:45 AM (GMT -7)   
I've had depression since I was a teen. Been treated on and off for it for over 40 years. On meds now but that's also to help with my fibromyalgia. If you understand depression as an imbalance of seratonin levels in the brain, and see diabetes as an imbalance of insulin levels in the body... well basically I guess we're just a bit UNBALANCED!!!

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AMM
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   Posted 7/9/2007 9:01 AM (GMT -7)   
I have had seven suicide attempts when I was younger. My diabetes came first, but I have suffered from major depression. My biggest help to keep me from spiraling downward is the man I married. I still have a tendency to get very depressed but I am able to get back out of it fairly quickly now. I'm actually battling it a little today.
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   Posted 7/9/2007 9:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I too have been treated for depression after the diabetes. Originally it was because of my son's death in 2000, but now I take a low dose to help with the fibro like Jeannie.

One thing that is hard to fight is the stigma. But you know what??? If that bothers you no one besides you and your doc need to know. OK, maybe an S/O but that's it. If the doc gives you an antibiotic or med for a nasty cough I doubt if any of us tell the world about it, but there does seem to be 'something' about taking an antidepressant that bothers many of us...makes us feel like we need to hide it. Do what you need to do to be healthy and have quality to your life.

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murphey
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   Posted 7/9/2007 12:19 PM (GMT -7)   

I'm learning all kinds of goodies in this forum since I joined a few weeks ago.  Now this one, diabetes and depression.....who knew?  I didn't.  I've never been so low or down in all of my life, but I attributed it to this new medicine I'm on for my neuropathy (topamax).  For a while there, I thought I was losing my mind.  I really do think it's both though.  I've never been this down, ever.  I'm sleeping 14 to 18 hrs a day.  When I'm awake I'm staring at things for hours on end.  I'm hanging on for my doc appt on Friday.  And I'm going to ask for a pscyh (sp?) referral.  Moved here few years ago and don't know anyone. 

Now here's a silly question, so pls don't laugh.  Is there a medical test to show you are depressed?  Like a blood test or another lab test?  Is there a chemical imbalance?  How does a stranger who has never met you before know if you are or are not depressed?  OK, I heard somebody snicker.......

 


Jeannie143
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   Posted 7/9/2007 1:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Murphey,

No one here will snicker about depression. It's a real disease with real symptoms and treatments. It can rob you of the best years of your life. A trained physician, not even a psychiatrist, can usually spot depression if you are honest with them. Depression that lasts longer than two weeks is kind of like leaving a can of soda open at room temperature... All the ingredients are there but the flavor is warm and flat with all the fizz gone out of it. For myself, when I'm low I have difficulty making decisions, can't get motivated to get out of the house and get groceries or do laundry and everything takes forever to get done. The world takes on a bit of a monochromatic tone... Now I know enough to up my meds a bit (after discussion with my doc), increase my exercise and happily enough, up my chocolate intake to two or three squares instead of my usual one square.

Your doctor will interview you and knows the questions to ask to determine if you are depressed enough for medication or if just therapy will help. I have never understood how talking about depression will help... I know I'm depressed but that doesn't make it go away... Kind of like understanding diabetes... still gotta take meds for it..
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SweetSal
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   Posted 7/9/2007 3:43 PM (GMT -7)   
It is very common for persons with chronic illnesses to have depression. I have been on antidepressants for yrs. I started on them back in the early 90's because of my Crohns. My husband was on them for his COPD . It comes from having to deal with a disease or illness that is long term or chronic. Something that you feel you have no control over. So the Dr's add antidepressants and antianxiety drugs whic do help a lot.


Sally
T-2 Diabetic since 2001,Crohns Illietis diagnosed in 1985 have had it since 60's.

SnowyLynne
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   Posted 7/9/2007 3:43 PM (GMT -7)   
My hubby has type 2 & shows no depression.
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4sons
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   Posted 7/9/2007 4:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Oh boy ... how timely!

I am soooooo depressed! Have been for a couple of months now. My doctor prescribed Lexipro last Thursday and I had anxiety attacks all day Friday and Saturday. Have stopped the Lexipro and will start something new at the end of the week.

Depression runs in my birth family ... I have what's referred to as a "sensitive temperment" and I have to work HARD at pointing out my good stuff (to myself!!!).

This diagnosis has certainly not helped. The neuropathy diagnosis really threw me, too. Or again. Or both
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

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tangerine bear
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   Posted 7/9/2007 5:12 PM (GMT -7)   

Wow... it looks like my therapist was right (as usual). This is amazing. Of course it's the old chicken and the egg debate... in my case the depression reared its head first, but then again, I'm sure the diabetes was hiding there all along. I guess I was predisposed to both... I have learned to deal with the depression with the help of my meds, but it's always there... the diabetes is a new dragon to fight. Thanks to all the support here, I can handle that too.

Thank you all for being here for me! ((((((((Hugs))))))))))),

Bear


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4sons
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   Posted 7/9/2007 6:03 PM (GMT -7)   
So ... if this isn't too personal, what do you all take? Does it change your bs readings at all? I'm looking for a substitute for Lexapro!
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


tangerine bear
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   Posted 7/9/2007 6:41 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Ruth,

Nothing's too personal for my family :-) :-) ! I'm on Lexapro... have been for about 2-1/2 years now. I have to adjust the dosage up and down from time to time. I don't want to rock the boat and won't change antidepressants, at least not without a really big change in my mental state.... My best friend who is diabetic tried the Lexapro and hated it... they put her on Cymbalta and she loves it. If I ever have to change again, that would be the one I would like to try.

(((Hugs))),

Bear


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4sons
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   Posted 7/9/2007 6:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Hmmmmmm ... good info. What did she hate about Lexapro?
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


tangerine bear
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   Posted 7/10/2007 4:59 AM (GMT -7)   

She didn't say.... maybe she had some side effects... but she gave me her leftovers :-) , so that was nice. I'll ask her next time I talk with her. All the others I tried gave me side effects, but the Lexapro is fine for me.

((((Hugs)))),

Bear


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tangerine bear
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   Posted 7/14/2007 8:18 PM (GMT -7)   

Sounds like me Granny, LOL! I have more than I want to count... but hey we have to stick together!

((((Hugs))))

Bear


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4sons
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   Posted 7/15/2007 10:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Granny ... don't meds help?
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


Phishbowl
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   Posted 7/16/2007 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Depression and Diabetes link? I'm sure of it! It's pretty much all about hormones, right?

I had a nervous breakdown and major period of depression less than 8 years ago. The doc wanted to put me on Celexa (sp?) but, I never filled the script. I went to weekly "sessions" with my GP instead. I also ended up getting a really nasty virus that knocked me off my feet shortly after the breakdown. I never felt right after that episode. Within the next 18 months I was at the doc for blurred vision (while taking a round of Prednizone for exzema). They thought I was Type 2 because of high blood sugar, age, weight, etc. and started me on meds. It was eventually evident by the end of 2 years that I was actually a Type 1.

I can tell you there were times that I couldn't go any lower. I still have periods of depression but, I do my best to recognize them. My emotions fluctuate with my blood sugars and it is often the first "sign" for me that I'm trending low (or even sometimes high). It's hard to appreciate sometimes but, the body is like running a marathon when blood sugars vary significantly. I hate those days I wwake up high, go low by lunch, go high after dinner, then give me something completely different to start with the next day. It can just be exhausting some days :-)

Sorry to go on... in a blabby mood today :-)

Cheers,
Kris
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4sons
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   Posted 7/16/2007 3:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Yup. My moods are tied to my meter. Woke up at 123 today for NO REASON.

Decent numbers the rest of the day though.

Who knows ...
Cheers -

Ruth/4sons

age 52/Type 2 diabetic/"controlled" by diet and exercise


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   Posted 7/21/2007 9:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I'm new here, but I thought I'd share.  I started having terrible depression and anxiety when I was 8 years old, and then was diagnosed with type I when I was 10.  I don't know that the two are related in my case, because the type I (sudden onset) came after the depression by two years.
 
Murphey, I just thought I'd share that Topomax, from my understanding, can be used for neuropathy but is also a psychoactive drug, often used as an anti-psychotic.  I had a doctor (a real quack, in my opinion) who put me on it once.  I felt HORRIBLE.  I don't know that it made my depression worse, but it certainly didn't make it better and made me feel really woozy and disconnected at the same time.  I got off that stuff FAST.  If it's helping your neuropathy, that's great, but just pay attention to what it does to you.  Like I said, it is psychoactive, so it can mess with your mind, for good or bad.
 
In the 20 years that I've been on anti-depressants, I think I've tried everything except Zoloft and Cymbalta.  I don't know that any of them had an effect on my bloodsugar, for what that's worth.  I am currently on Wellbutrin XL, Lexapro, and Abilify, and occasionally Ativan for anxiety.
 
Oh, and while I agree that there is definitely great stigma associated with all of this, and I totally understand if no one wants to admit they have these issues in public, I personally try to fight the stigma by telling all sorts of people.  Everyone at work knows that I see a psychiatrist and take meds for depression.  Of course, I work in a hospital so there might be more understanding than in another environment, but I choose to talk about it as if there's nothing to be ashamed of--it's just a fact of life--and hope that others follow my lead.  And of course, I did kind of establish myself there before I brought it up--I'm not suggesting you bring it up in a job interview.  But I do think the more we talk about these things and show people that perfectly "normal" people have them, the less stigma there will be.  So again, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to talk about it, but I think for those who want to, it's a good thing.
 
 
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tangerine bear
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   Posted 7/21/2007 1:36 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Drconnoisseur,

I'm glad you've joined us! This is a great forum with lots of support. I'm on Lexapro also, and I tried the Wellbutrin for a while but it made me too hyper, so I stopped that one. I agree it's good to talk about our depression. I don't tell everyone but I'm really glad that I found my therapist, it has really helped me a lot.

Hope you'll stay with us!

Bear


"It's a jungle out there....." 
Theme song from "Monk" by Randy Newman
 
OCD: Obsessive...Compulsive...Diabetic
 
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Mormor Vicky
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   Posted 7/24/2007 12:27 PM (GMT -7)   
My doctor put me on Cymbalta last week. She tried to put me on paxil last year but I refused since I didn't think I had a problem. This was before I found out I had both Crohn's disease and then got diabetes from steroids. Now that my world has basically come crashing down on me I decided I really do need help. I'm so ready to deal with all this in a sane way.
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Mary E.
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   Posted 7/24/2007 6:21 PM (GMT -7)   

I had depression before I was diagonsed type 2.  I was talking to my GP, a wonderful woman who actually scheduled a one hour first appointment with me and went through all my records (that's never happened again with any other doctor). 

I love ice in my drinks, summer or winter.  She diagnosed depression when I told her I didn't have the desire to refill the ice trays even though the sink is less than two feet from the fridge.  I'd rather go without ice that take the two seconds to refill the trays.  I've been on various meds since then.  Zoloft was the first, but it left me undepressed, but unmotivated also.  Now I take Wellbutrin, but I can only take 1/2 of the dose because it gives me twitches.  

Nothing like having a heated discussion with the boss and having your head twitch involuntarily!!  I'm retired now and have an ice maker!!

I wish I had known about depression long before I was diagnosed.  I basically spent all my daughter's childhood sitting on the couch and letting my DH do all the things kids like to do.   I think it's hard to talk about it, even to your doctor, but I do think that doctors are much more tuned into mental health issues than a decade ago. 

 

 

 


Jeannie143
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   Posted 7/24/2007 7:08 PM (GMT -7)   
OMGosh! Mary, you had me dying here with the icemaker line! tongue
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Mary E.
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   Posted 7/25/2007 5:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jeannie --  I still tell hubby how much I love my ice maker!!   If I say I like/love something, his response is, "Do you love it more than your ice maker?"  LOL
 
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