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judy3
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   Posted 8/15/2007 7:57 AM (GMT -7)   
I am a Type 2 Diabetic, currently on 2000mg of Metformin a day, I am on a low carb diet ( no starch, milk, fruit, or yogurt) my blood sugar numbers are perfect but my Cholestrol is high, my Triglycerids is 117.8, Cholestrol 251.5, HDL 50.8, any suggestions what I can do to bring the Cholestrol down, I do eat cheese almost every day, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

gelchick
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   Posted 8/15/2007 8:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Have you considered taking Omega -3 supplements? They are supposed to help.
 
I eat a moderately low carb diet that includes nuts (raw, organic walnuts; almonds; cashews), low carb yogurt, full fat cheeses, and soluble fiber foods (oatmeal, lentils, barley) along with veggie proteins, fruits and non-starchy veggies. My lipid profile is very good and remains stable. I also have good blood glucose control ( A1c = 5.0) even though I eat more carbs than you.
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judy3
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   Posted 8/15/2007 12:20 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Gelchick,

I will go to the heath food store for Omega 3, how do you eat the lentils, barley and oatmeal? I also have other problems I have Lyme Disease and high blood pressure , am trying to take care of one thing at a time but getting my blood sugar under control was the best thing, I was very tired and depressed and I went to a few doctors and they all told me to go on antidepressents, I refused so I decided to check my blood sugar and blood pressure and both were a problem, now I am on meds for both and doing much much better, the problem was I have been eating low carbs for a apporx 6 years because I had gestational Diabets so when my A1c came back 5.6 doctor said your blood sugar is fine, but you number go up only from veg and protein, at least now I am doing much better, thanks for the response, this is so long I guess I needed to get this out of my system!


fergusc
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   Posted 8/15/2007 12:42 PM (GMT -7)   

Judy, if your blood glucose levels are perfect, as you say, then you should relax!

That's far more important than your cholesterol levels, in my view. Our units of measurement are different from yours, so I don't know how my cholesterol numbers would compare with yours. I don't know whether Lyme Disease has implications for your cholesterol levels either. But the body manufactures the majority of it's own cholesterol, so the idea that avoiding things such as cheese or eggs will lower your levels is something of a myth. I do know that cholesterol levels are a very poor indicator of risk for coronary heart disease however, so people tend to worry about it a great deal more than they should.

So, congratulations on the bg numbers, and also for turning down the antidepressants. You're a star!

All the best,

fergusc


LanieG
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   Posted 8/15/2007 1:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Judy,congratulations on your blood glucose control!  I've read that flax seed oil is good to help "good" cholesterol - it has omega-3 as well as other nutrients.  I use either Smart Balance with Flax Seed Oil (a buttery spread) or real butter when I cook.  Dr. Bernstein's theory is that butter, full fat cheeses and red meats do not contribute to high cholesterol but that carbs do.  You said you're already eating low carb which is probably giving you the good glucose numbers.  According to Dr. Bernstein (and I'm sorry for referring to him yet again...), a person might have high triglycerides temporarily if he/she is losing weight and would drop "as the weight loss levels off".  If that's your case, you needn't worry.



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"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise
following low/no carb diet, no meds

Post Edited (lanieg) : 8/15/2007 3:33:01 PM (GMT-6)


judy3
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   Posted 8/15/2007 2:11 PM (GMT -7)   

HI Fergusc and Lanieg,

 

Thanks for the encouragement! I will wait a few months to see about meds for the cholestrol, maybe as I continue treatment for Lyme it will get better, and as you say it may be due to the weight loss, I am losing weight but very slowly, I lost 14 lbs since december , I am 136 lbs now so its not bad for my age, I am 41, but I am 5'2, thanks for the reassurance about the high cholestrol

Lanieg,

I see you are on a now carb diet too, what do you have for breakfast?


LanieG
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   Posted 8/15/2007 2:22 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Judy,  do you think that the medication for Lyme's could cause high cholesterol readings?  Today I'm suspicious of almost anything having crazy effects on the body. eyes

My breakfast varies: leftover piece of chicken or meat from last night! and a sauteed vegetable with a little cheese - or - omelet (usually EggBeaters) with a mushroom, turkey bacon and bits of green pepper and grated parmesan - or - about 3 slices of cold cuts (no carbs) and 2 cheese puffs (check out how to make them - it's posted last month I think) to make a sandwich.  You can also make little quiches with broccoli or cauliflower and grated cheese with egg or egg substitute in muffin trays.  These freeze well and then you can pop them into the microwave for breakfast.  I got some of these ideas from the South Beach Diet Phase 1 and the others from the Dr. Bernstein book on diabetes.  The leftovers, of course, are my own idea!  tongue    But it's all no/low carb.


Lanie
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"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise
following low/no carb diet, no meds


judy3
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   Posted 8/16/2007 6:57 AM (GMT -7)   

HI Lanieg,

I think my lyme disease drove my body crazy, as these numbers were high when I was diagnosed but were normal approx 6months earlier, I like the idea of the little quiches,

Thank you!!!!


gelchick
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   Posted 8/16/2007 7:42 AM (GMT -7)   

Judy3

You asked how I eat barley, oats, and lentils- do you want to know how I can eat them without my blood sugar levels going up? or do you mean how do I cook them?

I can eat many types of beans, oats and barley, and fruits because I follow the insulin resistance way of eating. I link 15 grams of carb (any kind-starchy or non starchy) to 7 grams of protein. This allows me to eat the soluble fiber foods and still keep my BG levels stable and low (my recent A1c was 5.0).

I think that exercise causes the LDL to fall and the HDL to rise. In my case, my LDL dropped from the high 90's to the mid 80's and my HDL rose about 6 points when I started to ride my exercise bike and walk the treadmill every day. You might search google for more info on this benefit of exercise. I don't do anything strenuous either- just walking and biking for the most part. My triglycerides have always been good (in the 50-70 range). I eat full fat cheeses, cream, butter, eggs and the like - I am a vegetarian, so no sat fats from meats. 

I cook my oats in a 3:1 ratio, using either water or almond milk ( a personal preference). I use old fashioned. I prepare steel cut oats in a 4:1 ratio overnight in the crockpot. I throw lentils and barley into soup; barley into casseroles. I can also eat kasha and bulgur without any problem as long as I link them to the correct amount of protein. I haven't tested quinoa or couscous - but my guess is that they'd be okay too.

sandy


I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


judy3
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   Posted 8/17/2007 4:22 AM (GMT -7)   

HI Gelchick,

I tired oats it didnt work but 7 grain cereal did work for me, but I will try kasha and bulgar, sometimes I just want to eat something normal especially for breakfast, I exercise very little as I dont have the strenght, hopefully as I start feeling better I can exercise and start eating a bit more food


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   Posted 8/17/2007 6:02 AM (GMT -7)   
judy,
My cholesterol was wacky also and so I went on the Lipitor at my doctor's suggestion. I take 10mg at bedtime. This, along with my increased use of monounsaturated fats (peanuts, walnuts, olive oil, olives, avocado, peanutbutter and peanut oil) and a non-grain, non potato food plan has put me in great number world.

Lipitor has been found to help prevent heart attacks and strokes in diabetics and I'm all about that. Not trying to push the drugs on you, but diabetics have their own sets of rules and this med worked for me.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
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Pin Cushion
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   Posted 8/17/2007 7:58 PM (GMT -7)   
I was running a very tight program on my BGL numbers and worked hard to get it there after fighting Dawn Phnom. for a couple of years.
I was having a "perfect" number avg of 90 - 125 all day. As a type one and fughting lows and counting evrything under the sun I got it in control only to have my Cholesterol to go through the roof. And my blood pressure went high also.
After a few different docs I ended back at my PCP who I had only seen twice since being switched to him last year. I have been in the care of specialists for over a year now.
After long talk with him he convinced me it was a better trade off to let my BG numbers go up a little and get my Cholesterol numbers down. SO now I am keeping my numbers under 160 and don not sweat it unless I get a reading over 180.
At last test my HBA1C was 6.0 and my bad cholesterol had dropped 35 points!
Just thought I would add my 2 units worth. Please excuse any typos / spelling I am taking heavy pain meds and got me "feeling no pain" LOL
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