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mamo
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   Posted 8/22/2007 8:40 AM (GMT -7)   
confused  Over a week ago I went in for my yearly blood test on high chlosterol and all that good stuff. Dr came in and said my chloysterol was good everything was good but my sugar and he seemed very concerned. I am 47. My sugar after fasting was 124. My mom's dad went into a diabetic coma at 53 and died. Not one of us kids have it. Mom's sugar is good. My insurance paid for a meter and strips. Dr told me to come back in 3 months and retest after I quit drinking pop. I quit that immediately.  Every morning I get up I feel real sick to my stomach? I take my blood sugar and it has been running in the 160's now and that's nothing to eat or drink after 10PM? The nausea goes away towarsds noon. I do not eat anything because I am afraid I will not keep it down. I am on no diabetes meds at all. I am thirsty all the time. Should I be concerned?
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks so much

mamo
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   Posted 8/22/2007 8:48 AM (GMT -7)   
The reason I am so concerned is last eye DR appointment in May 2007 showed cataracts in my eyes

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   Posted 8/22/2007 9:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank-you, I can hardly take this being sicjk to my stomach, I am also anxious to hear form others. Thanks so much for replying. I was begining to think no one was going to answer me

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   Posted 8/22/2007 9:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Mamo and welcome to the forum.  You'll find folks here with a lot of experience with difference aspects of diabetes, so please take some time and look back through the past topics for information that covers many different topics.  Did your doctor give you any diet guidelines other than cutting out pop?  Any appointments with a nutritionist?  Nausea and thirst might signal uncontrolled blood sugar and the best thing you can do is to get started on a new way of eating today!  (Cataracts are also associated with diabetes.)  You might be able to bring those high blood sugar readings down immediately if you change the food you're eating.  Now, having said that, there are a few choices of which diet to follow and you are the one who should decide which one is best for you.  The American Diabetes Association has one way of eating and you can get that information from your doctor's office or online.  Most of the members here would say a low-carbohydrate diet works better than what the ADA recommends.  Carbohydrates raise blood sugar and if your diet now includes bread, potatoes, cereal, cakes, cookies, pop, rice, etc. your blood sugar could be elevated all day long and it wouldn't be surprising that your morning fasting would be elevated.  Try reducing those carbs to very small amounts and increasing your vegetables, salad food and proteins, cheese and see how your blood sugar is affected.  Make a daily journal of what you eat for each meal and then your blood sugar readings 2 hours afterward so you know which foods raise your blood sugar more.   Then, you will have more control of your blood sugar levels.  This is going to take some organization and dedication on your part but you will be amazed at the difference you'll see!  If you need to lose weight, changing the diet will help, too, as well as engaging in daily exercise even if it's just walking.  I've read that some people may experience waves of nausea when they finally bring down their blood sugar from high levels.  I suppose it takes a little time for the body to get used to living with normal levels, so don't be discouraged if that happens.  Let us know how it's going.  Hang in there because we're in the same boat!
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mamo
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   Posted 8/22/2007 10:03 AM (GMT -7)   
No he did not give me any diet outlines or have me see a dietician. My morning levels have went higher since I have seen th Dr and I have cut out sweets and am watching what I eat. I never ever hardly eat bread, potatos or chips. I mostly eat my meat plain without bread. I am over weight. I do not eat cereal or rice

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   Posted 8/22/2007 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, since he didn't give you any diet guidelines then it's up to you to whip yourself into shape!  I mean that in a kindly way, of course.  There are several diet plans which have given successful results and you can probably find a lot of suggestions online.  You can also go to a bookstore and look through the South Beach Diet, Atkins, the insulin-resistant diet, and Dr. Bernstein books and then decide which one you feel you can follow.  Basically, meals are centered around some protein like chicken, meat, tuna, other fish and a couple of vegetables that you really like.  And as I'd written before, either cut out or cut down on the carbohydrates.  You should probably get a list of the glycemic index of foods which tells us the carb content and stick with those foods under the number 50.  Drink diet drinks.  The doctor is right about those carbonated beverages with all the sugar.  Even orange juice.  When you get yourself set on a schedule of eating these foods, you'll probably feel a little better too.  In my personal opinion (I'm not a doctor.), it was a good idea for the doctor not to put you immediately on meds.  You have 3 months to try to normalize your blood sugar as best as you can.  Then, your doctor can re-assess what to do at that time.  It's a disappointment, though, that he didn't give you a diet to follow.   
As, I wrote before,  take some time and read through the past topics here and you'll get an idea what others are eating.  Your 124 fasting was not critical but it's rising and you don't want that.  Don't be discouraged.  And sometimes it takes awhile for others to reply to posts because we're not online all the time.  I check in a couple of times a day but I'll catch up with you.



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Post Edited (lanieg) : 8/22/2007 11:33:15 AM (GMT-6)


mamo
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   Posted 8/22/2007 10:29 AM (GMT -7)   
I just did my blood sugar at noon nothing to eat and only drinking water and diet drinks it was 144 GUESS I am worried and do not know if I should be as worried as I am and I am scared to death

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   Posted 8/22/2007 10:34 AM (GMT -7)   
What did you eat for breakfast and what time?

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   Posted 8/22/2007 10:35 AM (GMT -7)   
I have ate nothing, I am to sick to my stomach. I am only drinking water and had a diet crystal light

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   Posted 8/22/2007 10:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Try to sip something like chicken bouillon or some peppermint tea (no sugar) and lie down. I don't know why you're sick to your stomach. There could be different reasons. I will tell you that a few months ago I had a very bad sinus headache that made me throw up. I hadn't eaten anything but when I took my blood sugar, it was 164. Being sick can raise the blood sugar. So, you need first to try feel better to tolerate something in your stomach. In the old days when I was a kid, we'd eat a Saltine cracker to settle the stomach but crackers are out!
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gelchick
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   Posted 8/22/2007 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   

If you don't eat, your liver will make glucose for you. It may not know when to quit-that's why your numbers are high. This is called the Dawn effect when it happens at night, but your liver will kick out new glucose every time your brain and body need energy and the muscle reserve is exhausted.  Your numbers will go up until your energy needs are met.The way to stop the process is to eat. Your body can make the energy molecule out of proteins, fat or carb. Carbs are easiest, that's why they shoot your blood sugar readings up so fast.

Nausea is not a hallmark of type 2 diabetes, but it is a hallmark of anxiety and it sounds like you are very anxious right about now.

Your fasting of 124 puts you in the pre-diabetic range, not full blown D. Your numbers should stabilize once you start to eat and exercise on a regular basis.

good luck and good health

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Phishbowl
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   Posted 8/22/2007 11:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi mamo... welcome to the group and sorry to hear your having such a difficult time lately.

Lanie gave you the best advice for the stage you seem to be at. You need to look at diet first and foremost. Understanding the make-up of the foods you eat is imperative if you want to get and/or keep your blood sugars under control. Once you start reading, I have no doubts that you will be surprized to know the nutritional contents of some foods (especially those many of us grew up being told were "good" for us).

Your numbers aren't critical which actually puts you in a good place to start some lifestyle changes now. Those changes have to start with diet. You need to know that NOT eating is not good for you either. At this stage of the game, have that cracker(s) or dry toast to settle your stomach and not to worry about the carb stuff; that'll come the more you read about foods. If you have a flu bug, it culd be raising your sugar levels. If it's acid stomach (from the Crystal Light sweetener), or empty stomach, they could make you feel queezy, too.
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mamo
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   Posted 8/22/2007 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I called my Dr this afternoon and they were concerned. They said being sick to my stomach could b from the low potassium that I am know taking pills for to. But it should not be bothering my blood sugar readings.
They want me to take it 2 hrs after I eat supper to. for the next 2 days and if the blood sugar has not went down by 8 AM Friday morning they want to see me Friday. I did not aim to make it sound like I am not eating at all, cause once the queeeziness goes away I do eat. I ate a good meal last night and also a good meal yesterday at noon. I ate about 2 just a snack and then I ate supper at 6PM I will take my blood sugar at 8
They want me to fast the next 2 nights and take my bllod sugar the next 2 mornings b4 I eat.
They want to see me then Friday if it has not went down. They said although it is not serious enough to go to emergency room, I should not be having numbers in the 160's. Said the disease may be progressing and they want me to keep in touch with them. I wonder what they will do Friday if it has not went down?
Thanks so much for your help

LanieG
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   Posted 8/22/2007 5:37 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm glad you called your doctor.  There are other things going on then.  I hope you're eating some bananas or other food with potassium because low levels of that is dangerous.  As we said before, your blood sugar levels are not critical at this point but you should do your best to try a new way of eating to see if you can bring the levels down by diet.  If you can bring down your blood sugar by Friday it might mean you are able to control it by what you eat.  The doctor will talk to you about what to do.  Every doctor handles this in a different way, so be sure you ask a lot of questions whenever you see him.  It's possible he might let you continue with a diet after Friday if your blood sugar is much lower.  Or, he might want to start you on medication.  In any case, be sure you understand what he says, ok?  Check back with us.  I hope you're feeling better. 
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mamo
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   Posted 8/23/2007 6:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks so much for your advice, I feel better this AM and will be taking my blood sugar here in a few minutes. I just did it and it read 138 this morning. so it has went down:)
I did not know till yesterday when I talked with the nurse that my blood sugar the last few years we have taken it that it had been gradually going up. Which upset me because if I had known I would been doing things alot different.
Why would they not tell me they had been concerned about it the last few years?
My mom just devolped cataracts in her eyes this year but she is 65 and that is common for her age. My dad has not had problems. Anyway it floored me to hear her say this!
Gotta get to cleaning but I will keep in touch. Oh another thing I took my blood 2 hrs after supper and it was 95. Thanks again

LanieG
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   Posted 8/23/2007 6:39 AM (GMT -7)   
Good morning Mamo.  It seems your blood sugar might be manageable if you got a reading of 95 two hours after eating.  This should encourage you to follow a different way of eating and I would severely cut down on the carbs as you do that to see how well you can manage it yourself first.  If you can't keep "normal" levels, the doctor will talk to you about other options.  And about past lab tests:  I'm not surprised.  When I looked back over the lab copies I had for myself from the last 9 years, I saw that my fasting ranged from the 90's to a high of 132.  All the doctors (I'd had 2 during those years.) said was to watch my diet.  Neither one sat down with me and discussed diabetes, how to control blood sugar, importance of exercise, complications of diabetes..... nothing.  I could have started this new way of eating 10 years ago.  To be fair though, I think today the medical profession has lowered the range of blood sugar to be concerned about, so today's "diabetic range" is lower than years ago.  In any case, I'm glad you're feeling better!  Pay attention to what you eat!  Good luck! 

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mamo
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   Posted 8/23/2007 7:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Will do, and thanks so much for your words of encouragement! Much appreciated. I do not want to be a diabetic. As I said before sweets were my things. Chips, potatos, bread is something I never ate much at all. My last potato was over 2 weeks ago. I eat most of my meat plain.
So eating sweets is my only down fall besides pop and I have quit that the day he told me no more.
So yes I hope I can keep track of it on my own without meds but if I have to take them I will, I want to be here with my kids a long, long, time :)

mamo
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   Posted 8/24/2007 6:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Well my reading after supper last night was 111 and this AM was 116 so I called Dr's office to see if I still had to come, they said yes with still elevated blood sugar they want to see me. Was hoping it was down enough that they would let me continue to try it on my own. They still want me to come.
I am scared, will they have me do a urine test to check it? They will do som test won;t they b4 they put me on a med?
I have been doing so good really I have on my eating and drinking. No sugar no pop no potatos. I ate salmon last night with green beans and just a tablespoon on mac and cheese.
I have to take my pills with milk some require it, so I only had enough of it to take my night time pills
I am sick this AM, probley from worrying.
I will let you know what they say as soon as I get back. Doing my laundry now to keep my mind off of things. I own a laundromat so it is so hard! LOL :)
Talk at you all later appt is at 10 I am to eat nothing
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   Posted 8/24/2007 7:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Good morning Mamo, from what you've written before, some of your readings have come down and that's good!   You could probably get them lower by changing more in your diet.  But talk this over with the doctor.  Good luck with your appointment and I hope you feel better.  And good luck dealing with the floods up there.  We've got a drought where I am and we need that rain. 

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mamo
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   Posted 8/24/2007 7:38 AM (GMT -7)   
We got 9 1/2 inches last night in IA
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   Posted 8/24/2007 7:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Send the rain here, please. :)
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mamo
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   Posted 8/24/2007 9:30 AM (GMT -7)   
I am sending now :) Hope you get some soon we are really flooded here in the rural areas. Bridges under roads washed out. And we are suppose to be getting more.
Well The Dr put me on medicine for Diabetes. She put me on Metformin HCL 500mg 2 x a day
Can anyone tell me anything about it?
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LanieG
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   Posted 8/24/2007 10:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Mamo, metformin will help your body use its insulin more efficiently.  Several members are on it and they can answer your questions better than me.  And please remember that following a good diet plan as we've talked about will help you even more, so don't rely on metformin alone.  Good luck!

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mamo
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   Posted 8/24/2007 10:11 AM (GMT -7)   
They are sheduleing a appointment to with a dietician at the hospital to help me with diabetic menus ect. The sooner I get help from them the better I will feel about what to eat and how much
Please anyone taking this med let me know how it has done for you. The Dr said it will even help me loose weight, Oh I have lost 7 lbs in the last week to so she was happy about that, it showed her I have been trying:)
sleep apenia, restless legs, IBS, PLM, high blood sugar, chronic depression, anxiety,
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LanieG
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   Posted 8/24/2007 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Mamo, I'm glad they're following up with a dietician. You're on the right road now! You'll see much better blood glucose numbers now. I started another topic for metformin so others can see it more quickly and hopefully you'll be able to meet others who use metformin, too. They'll be able to give you lots of advice. Be patient though because it may take hours or even days before everyone is able to respond. Have a great weekend!
Lanie
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