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maxg
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   Posted 8/28/2007 9:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi all.
new to this forum, I have type two diabetes and I learn a lot from this forum already, things that the doctor don't tell you, I am not on medication yet I am trying diet first, so cut out any form of sugar and reduced my carb intake by 50% I'll see the result at the next test, I have some questions if some one can answers for me; is any one have used Stivia as a sugar substitute? and also what is the effect of wine on the sugar level?
 
Thank you

LanieG
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   Posted 8/28/2007 9:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Max, welcome to the Forum and I hope you stay with us.  You'll find lots of people helping one another.  Stevia is a sweetener from a plant, so it's totally natural.  You can buy it in powdered form and I think someone here said there's also a liquid form.  Gelchick just posted that she grows the plant and uses the leaves in food, so I hope she pops in here and tell you a lot about it and the difference between that and the other commercial sweenteners.  It's not supposed to have any effect at all on blood sugar.  Wine can have a lowering effect on blood sugar.  Regular wine, that is, not fortified wine like liqueurs, Sherry or Port.  People on medication should certainly ask their doctors first because it can interfere with medicine.  I realize you're not on meds.  And of course the other caution is to have wine with a meal and not overdo it.  At special occasions, I'll have 2 glasses with dinner.  I don't take meds so there's no complication there.  I hope that helps.

Lanie
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gelchick
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   Posted 8/28/2007 10:14 AM (GMT -7)   
maxg
 
I use Stevia as my primary sweetner. I grow it in my herb garden. You use the leaves just like you would use fresh mint. I dry out the leaves and crush them, throw fresh leaves in hot teas, and steep them to make concentrated liquid sweetners.  You can buy Stevia in both powdered and liquid forms. I prefer liquid because some brands of powders have maltodextrin (a sugar) added for bulk. The brand carried by Whole Foods comes in plain, and flavored forms ( vanilla creme, mandarin orange, chocolate raspberry). I use the flavored ones in the plain greek style yogurt that I eat for breakfast.
 
If you use too much of the concentrated liquid- it can leave a licorice like after taste- that doesn't happen if you use the fresh leaves.
 
I understand that you can use it in baking and cooking because it can withstand the heat- I'm not sure, because I don't use it for cooking. It does not raise my blood sugar, even in fairly large amounts- I recently made southern style sweet tea with it ( and it was very very sweet) and my sugar didn't budge. It's a great sweetner for me.
sandy
I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


tutorgirl
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   Posted 8/28/2007 1:40 PM (GMT -7)   
I use the Sweet Leaf powdered brand of Stevia and it doesn't have any fillers. I like it better than Splenda. One of my clients grows it and her kids think it's a treat to go out and pick some to chew on. They aren't allowed candy so this gives them a sweet fix. (Very smart mom.) And it does more than sweeten. It has fiber, good for liver function, and good for the immune system. Go! Stevia!

fergusc
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   Posted 8/28/2007 4:14 PM (GMT -7)   

I'm very jealous! Stevia doesn't have official Food Standards Agency approval for sale and distribution over here in the UK, so I can't get my hands on any. It seems mad to me that a perfectly natural herb should effectively be prohibited while all sorts of suspicious chemicals are actively promoted. I don't get it at all.

I'd love to try and grow my own, which would circumvent the daft legal prohibition. Can anyone help me!?

All the best,

fergusc


gelchick
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   Posted 8/28/2007 4:32 PM (GMT -7)   

fergusc,

 I just went to my local nursery and asked them if they sold Stevia rebaudiana. They had it in stock. Sometimes it is called sweet stevia or sweet plant around here. It's easy to grow (just like mint). You don't have to tell them you plan to eat it :-)

sandy


I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


LanieG
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   Posted 8/28/2007 6:51 PM (GMT -7)   
Sandy, thanks for explaining how you use the stevia leaves.  I had the plant this summer but it died in the extreme heat here.  I never did get to use the leaves effectively.  I understand it's a perennial.  Fergusc, there are plenty of nurseries that sell seed packets here.  Suppose someone sent you a package that happened to have some seed packets, commercially packaged and sealed with a nice picture of the plant on the front?  Do you think that's a problem?  It's not the end product which the EU is banning.  Maybe I'm naive.

Lanie
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"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise
following low/no carb diet, no meds


tutorgirl
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   Posted 8/28/2007 7:20 PM (GMT -7)   
For those of you in the States who don't want to grow it you can get the Sweet Leaf Stevia at WalMart (believe me I was surprised!) and at GNC. I only saw the powder at WalMart. I haven't been to GNC to check it out, but they had the powder packets in the GNC aisle at Rite-Aid so would figure it would be in their regular stores.

fergusc
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   Posted 8/29/2007 3:10 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't think you're naive in the slightest, Lanie.
But where would I find such a person? Someone kind, thoughtful and generous enough to see beyond petty European Union beaurocratic dithering. Someone with, let's say, some packets of seeds for a sweet, innocent herb and an address in far-away Scotland. An address such as 16 Mardale Crescent, Edinburgh, EH10 5AG, Scotland, for example.
Well, I suppose I can only dream.

All the best everyone,

fergusc

LanieG
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   Posted 8/29/2007 4:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Santa's elves start working in Memphis first.  They work with home-grown items (not made in China) nicely packaged with pretty pictures of plants on the front.  Christmas comes early?

Lanie
forum moderator - diabetes
 
"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise
following low/no carb diet, no meds


maxg
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   Posted 8/29/2007 5:52 AM (GMT -7)   

Thank you all for the reply I was asking about stivia because after my doctor find my sugar level at 6.1 I cut out all the sugar in my diet and at the following check up my levell went down to 3.5, only to discover at the next check up that my sugar level was back at 6.3, so the only main difference, was that I substitute stivia to normal sweeteners, stivia is readly available here in South Africa, both as a plant and as a powder and it was reccomended by my health store.

so now I have cut a lot of carb from my diet and see if that help, before I decide to go on medication.

Thank you, great forum yeah


2funGran-Gran
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   Posted 9/12/2007 6:55 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi ,I'm new to this forum. I have been on Stevia since last December. I love it. I went to a doc who advised me to get off of all artificial sweetners. I have followed a strict diet avoiding, flour,rice,pasta,sugar,and potatoes. So far I've lost 35 lb. very quickly. (by February). Instantly, my face was noticably thinner. The liquid Stevia is wonderful - much easier than powder (which seems to clump if not stirred quickly). Try it - nothing substituted will taste exactly like sugar but it is a really good substitute.
Good luck with it, 2FunGran-Gran
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