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jwmoy
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   Posted 9/4/2007 7:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Has anyone tryed Eleotin or know anyone who has? If so, was there any good results or not?

Jeannie143
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   Posted 9/7/2007 7:12 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome to HealingWell, jwmoy. I am not familiar with this particular supplement but in the past I have seen most of these to be huge moneymakers for the companies and not all that wonderful for the patients. It all depends upon how high your sugars are to start with, what other meds you are on, your food plan and your exercise regimen.

What type of glucose control are you presently using?
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class! Yours may be one of them...
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"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."
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jwmoy
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   Posted 9/7/2007 3:53 PM (GMT -7)   
I currently am taking Glipzide pill form. Sugar runs 88 to 190. one is before eating, the other 2 hours after.

Jeannie143
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   Posted 9/8/2007 7:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Jwmoy,

Before you start on an over-the-counter blood glucose control supplement you should take a good look at your weight, food plan and exercise routines. I was on Avandia (before they knew about the heart attack stuff) and found I could no longer afford it. I removed it from my meds and to compensate I removed all of the grain based and other starches from my food plan. I still eat mountains of veggies and lots of fruit, cheese, meats, fish and salads. I just don't eat pasta, bread, potatoes and that stuff.

Because of my food plan change I have lost over 40 lbs., have improved blood glucose control, have decreased my need for my nighttime insulin and am better able to move throughout the day. I still have a more weight to lose but I am on my way to feeling better and doing better.

For myself, I have found that being pro-active, doing something good to help my situation, in this case improving my food plan, is more helpful in the long run both physically and mentally. Taking another pill (even though it's herbal) is reactive. In other words, it's reacting to a situation instead of directing the situation thru my own actions. I like taking control of my food plan and making it work to fit my needs. I feel better, look better and am spending my money on healthy food from the farmer's market instead of more pills.

I know that this is not the entire answer for all people with type2 diabetes but it is a large part of the picture. We all want to just take a pill and go on with life as usual. Unfortunately, the pills only help our bodies cope, they don't stop the problem. For many of us, starting with the food we consume is the best way to achieve some glucose control. You might want to try that before adding a new supplement to the mix.

Keep in mind that most over-the-counter supplements do have some blood glucose lowering abilities and can help drop your numbers. But many of them can be dangerous if taken in larger quantities for 'better' results. Chromium comes to mind as one of these. It's a metal. We have to watch how much we consume to prevent overdoing it. And as always, you should discuss all supplements (and list them at every doctor visit!) with your doctor. He/she cannot evaluate the meds you are taking correctly if you are supplementing and not reporting it. Everything you use including green tea and cinnamon supplements should be reported to your doc. They are your health care professional and it really helps if you keep them in the loop.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
~Please remember that 50% of all doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class! Yours may be one of them...
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"People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun's out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light within."
- Elizabeth Kubler-Ross


Cjuan
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   Posted 9/30/2007 2:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jwmoy

I copied the basic Eleotin formula (about 10-12 items in all) after I saw the ingredients posted on the internet. These are typically TCM herbs and substances that have been used for generations in Asia. There is nothing "Korean" about them; in fact one or two are used more in Western countries.

My fasting sugar level started to drop from an unmanageably high level to around generally about 6.0 mmol or 108 mg. It even down to 5.2 mmol / 94 mg. This was after I had been on this formula for around 6-9 months. It was quite troublesome to prepare as I had to grind the raw materials to powder form in the kitchen. I have to drink the stuff 3X daily - like hot tea or coffee - together with the famous TCM Six-Flavored tea in pill form which aims at reconditioning the left kidney, which in TCM is adversely affected in diabetics.

When I decided to cut back on the frequency of taking Eleotin, the blood sugar level went up again indicating that the good results were not permanent at all. When I decided to back to the 3X regimen again, the sugar level did not go down this time but looking back now, I am glad it didn't as it forced me to look at the problem from a totally different angle and this time I found a far more useful and workable solution to the problem, a solution based on a simple dietary principle.

I am already seeing, experiencing this improvement everyday and even my blurry eyesight seems to be getting better. Moreover, there is this curious pinkish tinge in the vision which I have never noticed before - as if one is looking out of some rose-tinted glasses. Isn't it beautiful, wonderful?

I am not going to say what this "solution" is at present until I get further concrete, positive results. In fact, I have already given you the clue here - dietary principle. If you would just reflect on this - take your time - you will also hit on it and I hope everyone on this wonderful website will too before long. Think of where it originated from - trace it BACK to your ancestors.

This principle has been there all along. Forget about herbs, drugs, mega-dose supplements and the so called nutraceuticals that you see advertised everywhere on the Net. I have tried many over the past 8-9 years but the positive results are precious little and hard to come by - here's a partial list of what I tried: chromium, biotin, cinnamon, brewer's yeast, tocotrienols, gymnema, green tea, oolong tea, bitter melon, fenugreek, black cumin oil, turmeric, passion fruit, guava tea, salacia, curry leaves, bay leaves, clove, ginger, coriander juice, resveratrol ...

Actually, the human body requires very little to survive and thrive and much of what we need is generally present in adequately in the diet. So supplements are really superfluous. Also these supplements, drugs, herbs, etc will not give permanent results - they will not only create medicinal/psychological dependence but also economic dependence as well. What is even more troubling is that they do not get to the root of the problem. They can only slightly control, moderate or ameliorate the negative effects (high blood glucose and the diabetic complications) usually for a price. But do they 'dissolve' these problems? Surely the true solution is not one that provides a crutch. It must be one that truly frees us.

What you, we, all of us want is a permanent eradication of the problem. It can be done. It can be easily done, in fact. Think of it as correct, logical dietary strategy. In fact, the dysfunction, this dis-ease was called "metabolic syndrome" was it not? See? The key solution is so clearly indicated and contained in the very name itself - "metabolic".

Nature tends towards homeostasis or dynamic equilibrium. Work with her, alongside her.

Good luck on your quest for diabetic freedom !!

Kindest regards
Cjuan
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