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mamo
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   Posted 9/13/2007 11:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi All,
I seen the dietician and she really helped me on how to count carbs and foods and how much I can eat:)
But... Here is a question, she said I can eat any meats just weigh them and account for what you put on them? I was telling this to my stepdaughter and she said oh no, No redmeats the dietician is wrong!
Who's wrong?
I am doing better but the last few days I think it has finally hit me, as hard as I try my numbers dont seem to go under a 110. I know this number is not bad, but I think it means I am a diabetic huh?
Even with taking the meds I am over 110 in the AM and I have been walking and real carefull on what I eat and the portion size I eat.
I took my husbands bs and he had just drank about 3 to 4 beers and his was 74. My daughters bs after drinking 2mt dews was only 73.
So I figure I am a diabetic and I might as well face the fact:(. It makes me sad and even right now if I would let myself I could cry. I hate it, hate it hate it! sad
I have had a lot of stress lately, this has brought me down, Being the oldest is not always the best thing. Alot of family problems mom, sis, and mom's boyfriend who is my age and hates my guts mad
I know everything will work out, but it is hard.
Thanks to all of you I have someone I cancount on, oh my hubby is here for me to, but he don't know what to say
Debbie T
 
 
 
 
sleep apenia, restless legs, IBS, PLM, high blood sugar, chronic depression, anxiety,
Trazadone 1oomg, requip 3mg, Effexor xr 75mg,Dyazide, aprazolam when needed, cpap machine, lipitor, METFORMIN 1000mg daily
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gelchick
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   Posted 9/13/2007 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Debbie,
 
Red meat has no carbs- just protein and fat.  If you are following the ADA diet, you can eat any kind of meat - you just need to account for the fat depending on how the dietitian structured your eating plan.  Your daughter is probably thinking about the fat content- a lot of diabetics are told to eat low fat in order to limit their calories.
 
It sounds like you are doing a good job in trying to get your sugar levels under control. You can see from your husband and daughter, that a non diabetic sugar level is a lot lower than the level generally recommended for diabetics, even after eating high sugar/carb items. In order for most of us to get down to that level, we have to drop the carbs to well below what the dietitian may recommend and exercise more.
 
It is my personal goal to keep my blood glucose levels in the non diabetic range at all times. I started out by getting my numbers under control and then gradually adjusting my eating plan until I hit that range. Now it is my routine- nothing special- and not hard to live with either.
 
Best of Luck to you,
sandy
I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


kim123
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   Posted 9/13/2007 6:58 PM (GMT -7)   
mamo...just wondering, what do you usually eat in the run of the day?...typical meals...

mamo
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   Posted 9/14/2007 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   

For breakfast I have 1/2 cup of sredded wheat with 1/2 cup milk on it.

Lunch I will have a salad or a sandwich on on piece of bread and a sugar free jello

supper is a piece of meat and a veggie. snack if I don't use all my carbs up is either 1/2 cup of 1% milk or a bananna.

I drink water, or diet pop or a crystal light drink

My mouth is really dry most of the time so I have to have something to drink most of the time

 


Debbie T
 
 
 
 
sleep apenia, restless legs, IBS, PLM, high blood sugar, chronic depression, anxiety,
Trazadone 1oomg, requip 3mg, Effexor xr 75mg,Dyazide, aprazolam when needed, cpap machine, lipitor, METFORMIN 1000mg daily
Fibromyalgia
 
 


Jeannie143
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   Posted 9/14/2007 8:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Debbie,
If you want' better sugars I would recommend dropping the shredded wheat & milk and switching to an egg or two cooked in olive oil along with some cheese for your calcium. You could alternate this with old fashioned (not quick) oatmeal with a tablespoon of crunchy peanut butter added. Your food plan doesn't seem to have enough healthy fats (olive, nut, avocado) that your body needs to absorb your fat soluble vitamins and maintain healthy nerves, skin and hair.

You should be having protein at each meal (a serving is the size and thickness of your palm, either meat, eggs, cheese, fish or tofu) along with fats to slow down your stomach emptying time and smooth out your post meal blood glucose spike. Always try to eat your fruits and any other carbs (like vegetables or milk) with fats and some protein.

Combos I like include apple with peanut butter, or banana with peanut butter, mixed veggie salad (made with baby spinach, brocolli, romaine lettuce, swiss chard, collard greens and anything else I can find to cut up) with cheese, hard boiled egg or deli meat, imitation bacon bits (soy protein) and about a tablespoon of ranch dressing. I then pour about 2 - 3 tablespoons of regular olive oil over it for my necessary fats.

Adding some monosaturated fats to your food plan will help you eat less, help lower your LDL and raise your HDL levels, add some satisfaction to your tummy and may also help with your feeling of dry mouth. Monosaturated fats are found mostly in nuts, olives and avocados.

Lately I've been coating zucchini and other veggies with olive oil, sprinkling with cajun spice and cooking them on the grill. They get a smoky flavor, a crunchy taste and you can have lots of veggies this way if you're feeling really hungry. I usually add them to the fire at the point where I'm turning my meat over. Broccoli and green peppers are also awesome fixed this way. I cut the veggies in pieces and toss in a bowl with the olive oil then sprinkle on the spices and grill.

In place of bread for sandwiches I have a couple of romaine lettuce, collard green, spinach or swiss chard leaves. I take my meat, tuna or whatever and roll it up with a little mayonnaise (for my fat) and mustard. I also like to make chicken salad with canned chicken, mayo and celery and serve it over diced tomatoes. For variety I use canned salmon and tuna.

Hope this helps.
~ Jeannie, Forum Moderator/Diabetes & Fibromyalgia
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tutorgirl
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   Posted 9/14/2007 9:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Jeannie,

Don't know if it helps Debbie or not, but it really helps me. I just printed your plan off and hung it on my fridge to help me keep track of what I am doing. Thanks.

Karen

LanieG
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   Posted 9/14/2007 10:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Debbie, remember that none of us here on the Forum are doctors but we have been living with diabetes to various degrees and have our own eating patterns to deal with it.  The reason I'm emphasizing this is that you might feel caught between what the nutritionist is telling you and what you might be reading here from some of us.  We might even have conflicting advice for you, so you need to read through it all, make decisions and keep your doctor informed.  You have to choose the food that's right for you and giving you good readings.  Personally, I rejected the diet my doctor's office handed me because it's based on the grain-based pyramid which kept my blood glucose readings too high.  I was at odds with the "established" recommendations for counting carbs and doing all the figuring for "exchanges".  The bottom line for me was having better blood glucose numbers and the only way that was possible was by cutting out those "white" carbs as well as most fruit.  You have been sincere in following a diet and exercise plan and taking your meds, but with all that, you're still getting a morning fasting reading of 110.  I think this is too high.  Is the doctor happy with this number?  I believe this is too high because of everything I've been reading everywhere: books, magazines, journals, online sites.  Like Jeannie, I think you should not be eating cereal with milk for breakfast.  Eat eggs or egg substitute as either scrambled eggs or an omelet with turkey bacon or a slice of Canadian Bacon.  Eat the lettuce wraps as Jeannie suggested for lunch.  Make a cheese puff for something crunchy to eat along with the wrap.  Your night snack of milk and a banana has carbs and may be driving your morning fasting reading up.   When you buy the sugar free gelatin be careful and read the ingredients.  The box will probably have "maltodextrin" and that will drive your blood sugar up even though the product says "sugar free"!   The WalMart brand of gelatin powder doesn't have that - but check the ingredients because some flavors might.  Jell-O brand prepared gelatin in the plastic cups are ok.  Have one serving with some real whipped cream or a small topping of sour cream artificially sweetened.  Don't eat "sugar free" cookies or cakes.  They may not have sugar, but they have flour, just like breakfast cereals.  Finally, it's not unusual to have fits of depression when you're dealing with health and other life's issues.  You need to talk to your family and your doctor about this.  Try to change your diet away from the carbs you're eating and see if you have better results.  Check out the South Beach diet phase 1 and 2 - you can do this online.  Or, the Dr. Bernstein books.  And let us know what's going on, ok? 
yeah
Lanie
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"pre-diabetic" controlled so far by diet and exercise
following low/no carb diet, no meds


kim123
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   Posted 9/14/2007 2:49 PM (GMT -7)   

You have all given such wonderful advise, and the food choices sound delicious! There should be more dieticians out there with logical advise, like you guys! I was asking Debbie about her diet because I know what the typical dietician will tell their patients. And yes, they are heavy on the grains, and wrong kind of carbs, in my opinion. Have you tried Stevia for a sweetener? Those artificial sweeteners scare me and affect me with all those chemicals and side effects. Stevia is an herb, not a chemical. Not sure if it affects diabetics, so some of you may want to jump in here and share your experience. Saying all that, I'm betting if you eliminate the grains, including corn, and yeast, as well as the refined/processed sugar, even for awhile, you will see results with your count. Let us know.

Kim


mamo
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   Posted 9/14/2007 3:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks to all of you for your great ideas and support. I really appreciate it allot!!
I will try all of this and see how I do.
Thanks again
Debbie
Debbie T
 
 
 
 
sleep apenia, restless legs, IBS, PLM, high blood sugar, chronic depression, anxiety,
Trazadone 1oomg, requip 3mg, Effexor xr 75mg,Dyazide, aprazolam when needed, cpap machine, lipitor, METFORMIN 1000mg daily
Fibromyalgia
 
 

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