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LanieG
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   Posted 12/13/2007 8:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Here is another article referring to the apparent paradox of saturated fat in the diet not leading to clogged arteries.
 
 
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gelchick
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   Posted 12/13/2007 9:20 AM (GMT -7)   

Lanie

 

You are the absolute best- just what I needed for my current 'war' elsewhere-

yeah  sandy


I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


LanieG
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   Posted 12/13/2007 9:41 AM (GMT -7)   

Sandy!  Then, you must get Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes, a science writer.  This is an incredible book about this same subject, the history of low-carbohydrate eating plans that go back about 100 years, fat-cholesterol hypothesis and obesity.  He has put together so many studies from the early 1900's onward along with behind-the-scene scrambling that your head will spin.  With your scientific background, the explanations will make much more sense to you.  When I "digest" what I've read, I plan to put a little bit of it here in a new post.

Also, here is the original article by Taubes from the NYT that Fergusc had mentioned awhile ago.

What if It's All Been a Big Fat Lie? - New York Times

 

 

 



Lanie
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gelchick
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   Posted 12/13/2007 10:15 AM (GMT -7)   
I do have it- on my pile of new low carb books:-)
 
I've just reading Johnnie Bowden synopis of current low carb diets and the Carb Wars (lots of great recipes there). My daughter gave me a big gift card to Amazon for my birthday and I went wild with it-
the article was just perfect for my word war- so timely- and covered just about every point I was trying to make ina very succinct way!
 
I should be working...
lol thanks again! sandy
I just want to live happily ever after-every now and then. Jimmy Buffett


fergusc
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   Posted 12/13/2007 4:31 PM (GMT -7)   

Fantastic, Lanie

It's only a matter of time before people start to realise that the low-fat fad is doing a lot more harm than good, and articles like this can only help get the message across. OK, so I'm a complete saddo, but the Gary Taubes book is going on my letter to Santa. Incidentally, he could afford to lose a few himself couldn't he?

Thanks a million,

fergusc


LanieG
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   Posted 12/13/2007 4:58 PM (GMT -7)   
It seems that nearly everything about diets we learned growing up is now wrong.  Read this short quote I got online from an interview after one of Taubes' speeches out in California earlier this fall (I believe it's from Taubes, that is.):
 

There’s a group at the University of Cincinnati that did an Atkins vs. low-fat study and they found that the Atkins people lost twice as much weight and they liked the diet much better. I was interviewing the dietitian who did the study. She had agreed to talk to me but she was very hesitant — she didn’t offer up any information. Finally, at the end of the interview, the one thing she offered freely: I asked her who funded it and she said the American Heart Association.

I said, “Well, I have to give them credit for funding it.”

She said, “Don’t. They funded it because we proposed it as a study that would refute the benefit. And when we found that the Atkins diet really worked and worked better than the low-calorie diet, now we’re trying to get money to look further into it and they won’t give it to us.”

Fergusc, Taubes doesn't look overweight in the pictures I've seen.  ?? 

 
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fergusc
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   Posted 12/14/2007 3:20 AM (GMT -7)   

Lanie, I meant that Santa could arrord to lose a few!!!! My kids are partly responsible given the amount of Xmas cake they have left for him beside the fireplace each Xmas Eve. Maybe this year he'd appreciate something more low-carb..... like venison!?

All the best,

fergusc


durejakk
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   Posted 12/20/2007 2:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I think the issue is not low or high fat. It is well documented that Fat has a role to play
in human nutrition. Monosaturated, Saturated and Poly satutated fats ( Omega 3 and 6 ) all
have some role to play and most of the studies that I know state that Fat of all the three kinds
should be represented in the diet and over all Fat consumption should be between 20% to 30%
with all the three kinds included almost equally in the diet and the ratio of Omega 3 to Omega 6 is also
important to observe. However, the kind of fat mostly considered responsible for human miseries is
Trans Fat which is very business friendly as it is cheap and increases the shelf life of ready made food.
This fat is said to really worsen the LDL/ HDL ratio and said to interfer with absroption of glucose by the
cells and therefore is said to be directly responsible for diabetes and host of related problems. When I
see around the Grocery stores, the prevailance of Trans Fat is astonishing.

fergusc
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   Posted 12/21/2007 3:58 AM (GMT -7)   

Trans-fats, or hydrogenated vegetable oils, are the only fats I believe important to eliminate from our diet. They're of no value to us, only the food industry, as you say. I'd rather have the longer shelf life, if you don't mind - your processed food can rot!

I don't think 20%-30% calories from fat is very clever though. We've never been a low-fat species, until the food industry started making big money at it 30 years ago. Diabetes and obesity have increased exponentialy in that same time.

I'd say most people should be eating more fat, not less. 'Eat more!', now there's a line to get some attention, eh?

All the best,

fergusc 

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