Why a sleep deprived EEG??

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Daisy9980
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   Posted 1/31/2005 6:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone know the reason my Neuro wants me to have a sleep deprived EEG rather then the 24 hour EEG.  I have the AEEG back in august and that is what helped diagnose me.  I asked for that test again and his assistant said no he wants the sleep deprived one.  Can anyone give me any info as to what the difference is?  (as far as the test results) Thanks alot. Tracy
 


jezzabelle
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   Posted 1/31/2005 8:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Tracy,
I've had many sleep deprived EEGs to try to diagnose me. Basically all my sleep deprived EEGs have been me staying up until going into the doctor's @ 8am to have them put electrodes on me, then they have you look at flashing lights and then you get to sleep with the electrodes on, then around 11:30 you get to go home. Yeah, it's fun times, well not really. I wouldn't recommend watching any really stupid movies, I almost fell asleep once, that wasn't good! I've had a ton of these sleep deprived EEGs, of course they've all be normal but that's just another story... Hope that helps a bit!
~Jessica
"Carry on.  It is not easy.  But it is what we have to do- only we do not have to do it alone."
 
First seizure: 1993
Officially diagnosed: 1999
Type: Simple Partial to Secondary Generalized Tonic-Clonic Seizures
Cause: Unkown, all tests are negative for abnormalities...
Meds: 750mg Keppra 2xday


kayakmom
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   Posted 1/31/2005 9:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Sleep deprivation is a BIG seizure trigger. They hope that by reducing your normal sleep they can see what is going on. It is also a help since you need to sleep there and being SOOO tired helps you fall asleep so they can see what your brain waves are doing while sleeping.....

hope this helps!

Daisy9980
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   Posted 1/31/2005 10:02 PM (GMT -7)   
NO way. I am getting some sleep. My plan is to fall asleep around 2 am and get up at 6 am. I told her that I was not going to stay up all night. They said the procedure is about an hour. So I have to lay there for an hour. And I will be really pissed if they put the lights in my face. Is that a definate? WEll I will give it a try but I am not killing myself over it. I already have my positive EEG from the summer so I am not going to "loose any sleep" over it! LOL.. but really I am suprised at how much his assistant says he wants me to have this test. He really wasn't too interested in office. WEll thanks for the advice. I wonder what he thinks he will see on this test. Thanks Tracy
 


kayakmom
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   Posted 2/1/2005 1:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Sometimes they do the repeat tests to see how well the meds are working. A normal EEG on meds does not mean it has gone away, but that the meds are doing what they should do!

The lights probably will still be done. Again it is to trigger those abnormal things to come through....

Usually they do not need you to stay up all night, but have far less than usual and you are planning that....

I hope it is not too much of a hassle and will help the neuro do the best for you!!

Daisy9980
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   Posted 2/1/2005 7:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks ginny. I just hate the idea of provoking a Tonic Clonic. An SP I can deal with but not another TC. It is just too hard on me. Hopefully the light sequense will not be too long. I hope my plan will work and I will get about 4 hours sleep. I feel bad for my ride (I think my dad) he is gonna miss the beginning of work and have to sit there for about two hours. Boring. Hopefully everything will go well. I am nervous, as I always am for new tests. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Tracy
 


jezzabelle
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   Posted 2/1/2005 8:15 AM (GMT -7)   
What they usually tell me is that I can sleep till about midnight and then your supposed to get up for the rest of the night. Like other people said, it's to see if being sleep deprived provokes any seizure activity, as well as with the lights. I have had a couple seizures while low on sleep but never had one for the sleep deprived EEG- all of my EEGs have been normal, it's amazing how you can have seizures yet everything be "normal" even right after having a seizure. anyways, i hope your test goes well- some suggestions to do while staying up- bake (my neuro has always said i can eat, just nothing with caffine, no chocolate). play games, when i was a little kid i used to go out and ride my bike at 4 in the morning with my parents, take walks, i guess anything to just keep your body and mind occupied! hope all goes well! ~Jessica
"Carry on.  It is not easy.  But it is what we have to do- only we do not have to do it alone."
 
First seizure: 1993
Officially diagnosed: 1999
Type: Simple Partial to Secondary Generalized Tonic-Clonic Seizures
Cause: Unkown, all tests are negative for abnormalities...
Meds: 750mg Keppra 2xday


Daisy9980
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   Posted 2/1/2005 12:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Jessica, thanks alot for the ideas about staying awake. It will be an EXTREME challenge for me. Seeing as though after working all day, I go home to watch TV and I can't usually stay up late enough for american idol believe it or not. Well thanks alot. THe baking idea is a great one. I love to cook. THanks Tracy
 


SonyaTx
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   Posted 2/2/2005 2:39 PM (GMT -7)   
Jeremy has one regular EEG and one sleep deprived it was harder on me keeping him awake than it was for him to stay awake..
This is a whole different kinda of test and Girl you need to have it done.. They will stop the lights if you have a problem with them but you need to know if a strobe light or being sleep derpived can set off your seizures. They didnt on Jeremy but he had seizure activity during the test not on the the light part though that didnt seem to  bother him at all.
We came home and he had a  nap LOL. Its not a bad test its just the thought of being tired and not going to sleep if you are going to do better to do it right than not..
Hang in there its not along test then you can go to sleep.
 
Sonya
 
 

Daisy9980
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   Posted 2/2/2005 9:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Sonya!! I took Friday off cause I knew I would be really tired after being up all night. My one friend said she can stay up with me till about one a.m. so that will help alot. I am sorry I haven't emailed you lately stuff with work and home is going wild. I have to and will very soon probably in length tomorrow night :) Thanks so much

Thanks everyone else for their speedy replies :)
 


jezzabelle
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   Posted 2/3/2005 9:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I hope everything goes well! Sleep a ton afterwards, I never take naps or sleep much but boy do i ever sleep after a sleep deprived EEG. I usually don't feel well by the time i get to the hospital but that's just cause of the lack of sleep and other medical conditions. You'll do awesome!! bake or cook, it makes the time go by fast and of course it's always fun to eat! :)
~Jessica
"Carry on.  It is not easy.  But it is what we have to do- only we do not have to do it alone."
 
First seizure: 1993
Officially diagnosed: 1999
Type: Simple Partial to Secondary Generalized Tonic-Clonic Seizures
Cause: Unkown, all tests are negative for abnormalities...
Meds: 750mg Keppra 2xday


Daisy9980
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   Posted 2/3/2005 2:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Jessica, that is really nice. I am trying to think of things that won't make too much noise if I am cooking. Maybe a pudding pie or something like that. It is gonna be a challenge. I am nervous for the whole flashing light process. But I know it is important. I am just very scared of the TC's. Thanks for the encouragement and will definately post afterwards. :)Tracy
 


Chris_N_G
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   Posted 2/15/2005 10:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I actually remember that I was looking forward to the sleep deprived eeg tests. Before I started having seizures, I was quite the night owl, so for me, it could be one big caffeine free party! lol I took it quite literally to mean that I should stay up for a full 24 hours before the test too. Actually, after all was said and done, I ended up being awake for 32 hours straight on the last test. Unfortunately, neither the sleep deprivation of the flashing lights during the eeg caused a seizure. For me, staying awake wasn't much of a problem. It was a little bit near the end, but I stayed awake way longer than I had to. Since I like tinkering with computers and programming, thats pretty much what I did through the night. All you need to do, is find something that you enjoy and keeps you mentally engaged. Or at least thats what works for me.

-Chris

Daisy9980
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   Posted 2/16/2005 7:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Yeah I can't stay awake for anything. When I was 17 would and could stay out and up all night long no problem. I hit 21 and became a tired girl. LOL.
Sleep deprived EEG went well. I was up for a few hours afterwards. I was disappointed in the results but at least they have my 24 hour eeg that helped diagnose me back in september. Take care, Tracy
 


jezzabelle
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   Posted 2/16/2005 8:38 AM (GMT -7)   
Sorry the results weren't what you were hoping for. I know how that feels- everytime that happens to me. but it's good you have one eeg that shows abnormalities. did you end up cooking anything? it's hard to stay awake, well at least for me it always is, i'll be doing great and not really get tired until about 4:30 or so and I hit a brick wall and just want to sleep for a couple days. anyways, hope the experience of the sleep deprived eeg was a good one considering!
~jessica
"Carry on.  It is not easy.  But it is what we have to do- only we do not have to do it alone."
 
First seizure: 1993
Officially diagnosed: 1999
Type: Simple Partial to Secondary Generalized Tonic-Clonic Seizures
Cause: Unkown, all tests are negative for abnormalities...
Meds: 750mg Keppra 2xday


Daisy9980
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   Posted 2/16/2005 4:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Jessica. The experience was okay. I basically stayed awake cause my friend and I went to the diner and stayed out late. About an hour after I got home I just passed out. My meds make me tired. Keppra knocks me out when I am tired, how about you?... So I am happy to have the one AEEG with abnormalities. That and my TC diagnosed me and then they put me on the Keppra. I have alot of doubts if my health will allow me to pursue nursing. I have an awful immune system. take care, Tracy
 


Chris_N_G
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   Posted 2/16/2005 7:13 PM (GMT -7)   
Tracy, I'm not too sure of what all your health concerns are, but I would strongly urge you not to give up on something that obviously means a great deal to you! I have found that at least for me, I need to have that hope...just looking forward to the day when I can go back to finishing my automotive service training. Maybe it isn't the same for you...its just that I know if I didn't have a goal like that, something to strive for, I would probably just lose hope entirely. So yah, if its what you really want, don't give up on it! :-)

-Chris

jezzabelle
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   Posted 2/16/2005 8:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Tracy, don't give up! I'm going through the same thing- epilepsy and trying to become a nurse. It's a struggle I'm not going to argue there but you shouldn't give up on your dream, if it's really what you want to do. My immune system isn't the best, so I try to stay away from the sick which is hard when right now everyone at my college is sick it seems and i work at a nursing home where all the residents are sick it seems too. I find that if i let myself get enough sleep, eat healthy, and exercise, my immune system does a lot better. The keppra doesn't make me tired, actually I haven't had any side affects so far and I've been on it since August. I am on some other meds for another condition that make me a bit sleepy though so I know how you feel- being drained and still thinking about school. Like right now for me- I have a huge anatomy and physiology exam on this friday so I'm studying hardcore but at the same time I know I need to get sleep so I don't have a TC. It's a struggle but if you've got supportive people around you and it's what you want to do- you can make it! don't give up tracy! if you ever just want to vent, you can e-mail me too! ~Jessica
"Carry on.  It is not easy.  But it is what we have to do- only we do not have to do it alone."
 
First seizure: 1993
Officially diagnosed: 1999
Type: Simple Partial to Secondary Generalized Tonic-Clonic Seizures
Cause: Unkown, all tests are negative for abnormalities...
Meds: 750mg Keppra 2xday


Daisy9980
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   Posted 2/16/2005 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Jessica. It is so cool that you are close to my age and also are going to school for nursing. I really do want it. I just have to wait for the paperwork to come back. I doubt if I am capable due to the E and other things. But I have been trying to do this for almost 3 years now and I know my dream will never die down. The only thing that holds me back is my doubts about my health. Here on LI were have an 11 month full time day program for the LPN course. During the 11 months you earn the 1260 hours to sit for the state boards. It is a very strict program. If you miss one day you must make it up. Each day is six hours and you have to pay the teacher $10 an hour to make up time. So it is scary to me thinking of what it is like to be postictal after a TC. My recovery time was ridiculous like 2 weeks. I would love to k.i.t w/you. Write me anytime. Thanks for posting

Chris....I also hope you can go back to school for the auto industry. Another great job field. Thanks for your support. Tracy
 


epileptic_Cajun
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   Posted 2/25/2005 1:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes, he ordered a Sleep-deprived EEG, because the brain waves are considerably different and even act different while you are sleeping, then when you are awake.

If they only allow you to get 4-5 hours of sleep the night before the test, then usually because you haven't slept you will be able to sleep for 30 minutes during the test, and they can see things on the EEG that don't show up normally. Epileptiform discharges show up readily, and if someone has a "hidden" seizure disorder, that they haven't caught with regular EEGs, then this would catch it, and allow for further investigation.

I had 4 of them, and all of them were abnormal with spikes and slow waves in the L-TL region, and some generalized activity, as well.

I had come to Phoenix with suspected seizure activity so, they put me on Tegretol XR when I was living in Louisiana and I took it for about 3 years. The first neuro after running the tests (physical, neurological, EEGs, MRIs, CTs, and PETs) added Neurontin to the Tegretol XR, and sent me to my now current epileptologist, who ran more tests, another EEG (again it was abnormal), and added Topamax to the other two, and waited for some kind of improvement and nothing, so they admitted me to the EMU, and they found things like a continous intermittent spiking pattern 24/7, sometimes I had CSWDS (Continuous Spike-and-Wave activity During Sleep--it occurs with certain seizures, but can occur for no reason at all, like mine). It isn't like that during the day, but at night when I am sleeping it comes alive.

Results vary from person to person. Just because someone has chaotic activity running on their tracing, doesn't mean they have epilepsy. People with out epilepsy (who have NEVER had a seizure in their life) can have very abnormal patterns that mimic the discharges of real seizures.

People with epilepsy, on the other hand, can have very normal looking EEGs, and can be having seizures daily, and it won't be caught until the sleep-deprived test is done.

If that doesn't do it, then they move onto the VEEG, and monitor you and your brain waves at the same time. This one is the most reliable source.

Certain temporal lobe seizures show up with greater chaos with out sleep. Also if a person is suspected as having epilepsy at all, the neurologist will order one or more, and do a series every 4-6 weeks. I had mine done every 5 weeks. It was a pain, they made me stop taking my meds 48 hours before the first few tests, so there was a better chance of the discharges acting up, but mine were so strong, that they let me keep my meds, because they broke through them.


Does this help any?

Nancy
31 years old--born with epilepsy--undiagnosed for 30 years. Suffered bad abuse by dad causing repeated head injuries, 3 brain infections, 4 severe concussions, and scarring on the mesial surface of the LTL.

Initially diagnosed in April 2003, was confirmed on March 9, 2004, after a 9-day stay in the EMU.

Diagnosed with a sub-type of TLE called Mesial Temporal Lobe Epilepsy Syndrome with Amygdala-Hippocampal seizures.

Epileptic auras, Simple Partial, Complex Partial and Secondarily Generalized Tonic-Clonic seizures.

Diagnosed with JAE (Juvenile Absence Epilepsy)--produces Absences as main seizure type, and Primary Generalized TCs.

Born with Myoclonic seizures as a result of birth mother drinking, smoking, doing hard drugs, painkillers etc. Went through drug withdrawal just after birth, and the seizures stayed with me.

Have failed 7 other drugs.

Taking Depakote-1250 mgs and Neurontin--3600 mgs

--TAKE WHAT YOU CAN DO AND DO YOUR BEST WITH IT!!!!


jetvang
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   Posted 2/15/2011 10:30 AM (GMT -7)   
With my luck the test will trigger a seizure and then I won't be able to drive again. They want to see if I've had any seizures in the last six months. I think I would know if I had a seizure.
 
I just got a new car and paid the insurance for six months.
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