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Post Edited By Moderator (~Jennifer~) : 8/12/2006 10:13:06 AM (GMT-6)
Cured, I don't know anything about a connection between diabetes and seizures, but seizures can result from LOW blood sugar. Would it be possible that your son's blood sugar suddenly surges (causing the hyper-lucidity) and then plummets (causing the seizure)?
Thinking of you both. Best wishes that you find what you need.
Sorry things are so rough! I don't know if the following will help, but here goes.
Back in 2001, when I was 19, and before the docs knew I was having seizures, I started having problems similar to some of your sons. I was in college at the time, which complicated things. I would be bouncing around the halls one day, totally hyper and on top of the world, and the next day, or even later the same day, walking around in a drunken stupor, barely able to remember what class I was supposed to go to, let alone be able to obtain any information during class. My teachers thought I had ADHD, and that was why I couldn't pay attention, so I went to a doctor, and w/o really getting tested, started taking Adderall. It just made things worse, so I stopped taking it on my own. I didn't want to eat either, which started out innocently enough and then turned into anorexia and bulimia. I didn't care what anyone had to say about it, I was totally out of control and very rude. Since I was at a Christian college, this didn't go over so well, and I got asked to leave.
When I got home, I started seeing a counselor, and he talked with me about the whole multiple personality thing, too. My parents were really concerned too, b/c I wasn't being the same daughter they raised. But MPD didn't fit at all. I wasn't hearing voices, I wasn't having hallucinations, and although I'd often get confused and lose track of time, or even where I was, I always knew my name was Heidi.
I ended up going to another counselor, and started keeping a log of when these 'episodes' would happen; how I felt before and after, what I had eaten during the day (in case it had to do with low or high sugar levels), and monthly cycles(which, fortunately, your son doesn't have to worry about). We started noticing a pattern, and I even had a few of these 'episodes' while talking to her, and she helped me be able to get in to see the right docs, eventually including a neuro, after the cardiologist, gynocologist, rheumatologist, and endocrinologist all stated I had some problems that might contribute to it (heart murmur, pre-diabetes, Reynaud's phenomenon, fluctuating BP, hormon irregularities, etc.) but nothing that could really explain why each episode was so similar, with a very distinct pattern of behavior.
The good news is, five years after it all started, I'm actually doing pretty well. I'll still have auras like this sometimes, but the anti-seizure meds help control them. I can tell when I'm starting to feel 'weird', and I'll get really rude after some of these auras and petit mals end in tonic clonics, but I'm more aware of it, and I let people know that I may be rude afterwards, but don't take it personally, b/c I'll snap out of it once I take a nap. I don't lose track of time or where I am anymore. Every once in awhile, I miss thirty seconds or a minute of a conversation, but I can jump back in w/o a problem, and most people don't even realize it happened.
Right now's the hardest part, and there may be more than one thing going on, including your suggestion of some plain old regular rebellion. I know I wanted to fight the world tooth and nail when it all first started, and my parents were at wits end. But, like Mandi said, keep getting things checked out. If one docs not looking at the whole scenario and is blowing you off, search for another one. A counselor might not be a bad option either, for him or both of you. It's not an easy thing to handle, but you are by no means alone.
Good luck, and fight the good fight. We're all here with you.
Post Edited By Moderator (~Jennifer~) : 8/12/2006 10:12:17 AM (GMT-6)
I don't know the answers for most of your questions, so hopefully someone else will come along and read, or you can get him in to see someone who will listen (which would be better, since none of us are docs, just educated in our own unique variations of seizure problems).
My dad used to say that you can't help people who don't want to help themselves. I know from going through depression and being angry, that I didn't want anyone to help, b/c accepting their help would be admitting I had a problem. I didn't have insurance when all this started either, but there was a counseling place, with an inpatient program, that saw me based on income. I stayed there for three days once, when I got really depressed about everything, and it helped a lot. There were a lot of other people my age there as well, and each of them stayed for varying lengths of time, depending on what they needed. I'm not sure what the Mental health place is that wont see your son, but if he's dealing with suicidal thoughts at all, then he needs professional help. Not having insurance doesn't mean it's the end of the road. Usually, you can call your local hospital and see if they have any programs, and they should at least be able to point you in the right direction.
Taking seven different meds in as many days isn't going to help anyone, and adding and taking away drugs on your own is probably the biggest no-no any doctor will warn you against. Despite your son's avoidance on the issue, there are things you can do. It may make you feel horrible to make him do something he doesn't want to, but in the long run, it's your best option. The neurologist in your town isn't the only neuro you can see; I've had to travel up to three hours to see one, and it's well worth the drive to get some answers. Regional epilepsy centers will work with you, and there are more options for counseling than just mental health. With your son being a student, he should be able to get cheaper health insurance, and though pre-existing conditions can be a pain to deal with, the insurance can help greatly with many of the other issues, and in a year, would cover any testing needed (within reason, anyway). You can even go down to your local Department of Social and Human Services department and request medical coupons, and speak with a social worker there, who could help with finding the other services.
Tell your son that "real men" are mature enough to admit when they have a problem, and smart enough to seek help. It'll probably irritate him, but maybe it'll make him think about it, even just a little. You can't let health problems ruin your life. You still have a life to live, and there is always joy in that.
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Post Edited By Moderator (~Jennifer~) : 8/13/2006 2:20:15 PM (GMT-6)
Sounds to me like your son may have a touch of "Bipolar Syndrome" and that very often triggers epilepsy or seizures.
My son is 20 yrs old, diagnosed with bipolar when he was 12.
I'm not in the medical prof. but the symptoms that you have described above sound exactly the same as my son has such as aggression, poor sleep (always wanting to sleep) and eating habits, violent behavior, wanting to spend money he doesn't have, periods of lack of concentration, very religious, poor social skills,paranoia, depression, etc.
Has he seen a psycologist to determine if it it bipolar?
This most recent bout, did you say it started around August 10/06?
There was a full moon that night and it's only logical that ~ since the body is composed mostly of water and the moon controls the tides, it has to effect the body.
The condition is controlled by sunlight (hyper) or lack of.(depression) and is worse around Easter or late Autumn (Thanksgiving)
There is written documentation on the WEB that states that seizures can be brought on by Bipolar Syndrome or visa versa.
I DEFINATELY know what you're going through as I have been dealing with it with my son for 8 years as well as my own epilepsy for the last 26 yrs.
Post Edited By Moderator (~Jennifer~) : 8/13/2006 8:57:25 PM (GMT-6)
Cured and MandiAnn,
I apologize for the way my post sounded earlier, with the 'real man' statement. I was venting, and it wasn't appropriate, and I'm sorry. This has been a really bad week, and I've been really hard with myself. I guess that's what is coming out when I write. I expect other people to do what I do, when maybe I shouldn't even be doing it myself. Anyways, I really am sorry it came out harsh.
Cured, I'm glad things are going better. I hope they continue to.